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Not For Jews Only Part III

Not For Jews Only Part III

History Overview

Continuing on with an overview of Israel's history starting with President Harry Truman after WWII.

Many years before Harry Truman would become President he owned a clothing store in Missouri.  It just so happened his partner was Jewish.  His name was  Edward Jacobson.  Providence?  I think so.  Just this fact alone made a pivital impact on the Jewish State of Israel today. 

It was post WWII and the UN was about to vote on whether to grant Palestine a Jewish State with a line drawn down the middle for both Jews and Arabs.  It was called a Partition Plan.  The problem was you had some of each living on the wrong side of the proposed partition. 

The Jews accepted the Partition Plan but the Arabs were pressured by the surrounding Arab nations not to accept this.  It really wasn't theirs to say.  It was the British who owned and controled this territory after defeating the Turks in 1917. 

President Truman was going to vote against the plan in the upcoming vote.  Well he was until Edward Jacobson came knocking on the White House doors. 

Many of the Jewish leaders put pressure on Jacobson, knowing he had Truman connections in Missouri. They pressured him to lobby the President for his vote.  So he went to the Big House in March of 1948 and had a chat with the President.  Jacobson asked the President to give his people a chance.   He was persusive.

The next day Truman called the State Department and made some other calls and informed those that needed to be in the know that the plans would be changed.  The United States would be supporting the Partition Plan. 

Of course he met with opposition including Secretary of State George Marshall among others.  But the plan carried and the two states formed.  The British were given time to pull out their troops trying to give uneasy support of peace between the Arabs and Jews. 

On May 14, 1948 the first Prime Minister of Israel, Ben Gurion declared Israel a State.  Eleven minutes later the United States recognized this as well. 

The next day six Arab nations lined up against Israel in direct defiance of the UN resolution and attacked Israel.

Nobody thought they would survive.  Israel was going to be stillborn.....or so they thought.

There were only about 600,000 Jews at this time in their homeland and millions of ARABS in direct opposition to them.  They had no army, no government, no taxes, no weapons, no money.  How could they survive?

They did have some weapons but they were pretty obsolete 

There was a young female Zionist who would later become Israel's forth Prime Minister and would be instrumental in helping Israel get organized.  Her name was Golda Meir.  She was born in Kiev, educated in the the United States, became a Zionist and moved to Israel.  She was one of the signatories on the Israeli Declaration of Independance  just the day before. 

Anyhow she got on a plane headed for New York to raise money.  In a few weeks she managed to raise $50 million dollars!  Tell me God doesn't have a plan for Israel! 

Somewhere along the line, early on, a cease fire was called.  This was just enough time for Israel to get weapon ready and organized to be able to fight off these six Arab nations. Supernatural pause?  Perhaps! 

Many supernatural things happened in and around Israel during these days of unrest.  A true story....there were two tanks pushing through barbed wire and two teens hiding in some shrubs nearby with homemade bombs.  They threw one of these cocktails at the first tank which then caught fire.  The teens scrambled up on the tank threw down another bomb into the hole where the men were trying to exit and blew up the whole tank.  The entire force behind these two tanks withdrew.

Another happening.  The Jews had no navy, no AF and no way to reach ships on the sea bombing Tel Aviv.  Somehow they threw a homemade bomb at one of the ships, catching fire, and the entire force withdrew as well. 

A ceasefire was called in 1949.  It was an amazing war.  Nobody would have been able to predict the outcome of this. 

This was just the beginning.  Time and time again Israel would be bombed, dragged into warfare and yet they never gave up.  In fact the victories they were able to win were absolutely unbelievable.  There had to be help from another outside supernatural source because to say otherwise would be harder to believe. 

Next the 1967 war that was virtually over in three hours. 

 

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Reply #26 Top
It's been said that Arafat never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.


You are right. It is a miracle that the Arabs are so strategically challenged...

Maybe Arafat is really on our side. That might explain how he won a Nobel Peace Prize.
Reply #27 Top

It is not our moral obligation to prevent the genocide of the Jewish people. 

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out."

-- Pastor Martin Niemoeller, Lutheran minister, Berlin Dahlem congregation

 

I grew up two miles or so from his church.



You make the assumption that all Americans are Christian.

I was talking about KFC and her fellow religionists, not about you.

 

Maybe Arafat is really on our side. That might explain how he won a Nobel Peace Prize.

How to get a Nobel Peace Price:

1. Murder  as many children as possible.

2. Promise to stop murdering children. (You do not have to stop doing so, just promise to stop.)

3. Stand next to the representatives of your victims when you receive the price. (That is the difficult part.)

 

Reply #28 Top

I took this straight out of wikipedia. Maybe you should challenge it.

It is true that the Arabs didn't muster too many troops for the first attempt. They didn't think the Jews would fight back. Jews were not traditionally known for fighting back and news from events at Warsaw during WW2 had not yet reached the middle east.

But look at the next few wars and you will see what I was talking about.

Wikipedia also doesn't give the numbers for the "irregular Palestinians". There was actually quite a number of them.

Plus the war happened in Israel, affecting the civilian population as well. It's more difficult to defend than to attack, if the enemy cares mostly about killing.

 

 

Although, I did make a mistake. I did not realize that Israeli history extended so far into the past. The Jews fought hard for their survival, and much of that fighting transpired without allied support.

That is true.

And by now you should have noticed that the book you quoted about American support for Israel covered the years long after those events. The fact is that since America helped Israel, the country hasn't been attacked as often and as hard any more. That's this "peace" thing that everyone is so much in favour of. The book you quote criticises peace (or rather the non-violent means to keep it). That alone I find suspicious.

""We shall not enter Palestine with its soil covered in sand, we shall enter it with its soil saturated in blood" - President of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser, 1965

“Those [Jews] who survive will remain in Palestine. I estimate that none of them will survive.” - Ahmed Shukairy, chairman of PLO in Jordanian Jerusalem, 1967

 

Reply #29 Top
Maybe Arafat is really on our side. That might explain how he won a Nobel Peace Prize.
How to get a Nobel Peace Price:
1. Murder as many children as possible.
2. Promise to stop murdering children. (You do not have to stop doing so, just promise to stop.)
3. Stand next to the representatives of your victims when you receive the price. (That is the difficult part.)


Seems right to me.

Wikipedia also doesn't give the numbers for the "irregular Palestinians". There was actually quite a number of them.


Yes, like I said, maybe you should challenge it.

Reply #30 Top
I disagree with the idea that Israels victory in the 1948 war was some form of divine intervention. KFC makes it sound as if the Israelis didn't stand a chance and were doomed from the start. This would have been true if the Arab countries fully mobilized and launched a coordinated attack. Fortunately for Israel this was not the case. The various Arab countries involved entered the war expecting a quick police action and never developed a strategy more complicated than telling their troops to march from point A to B. The Arab forces may have been more numerous but they were poorly trained and only marginally better equipped then the Israeli forces. The advantage in military hardware was quickly muted by a horribly inefficient logistical support. The Arab Legion, a Jordan force trained and equipped by the British, was never fully committed to the war. King Abdullah was more interested in seizing Palestinian land then he was in fighting Israel. This was particularly bad since Abdullah was supposed to be the commander of all Arab forces.

Israel on the other hand started the war with a well organized militia system that had been in place and gathering arms since the 1920's. This is well before most of the Arab states gained their independence. While the Israeli forces were not as numerous or as well equipped in heavy military hardware as the Arab forces, they had a far higher level of discipline and organization. The results of this advantage is seen when the Israelis were able to coordinate a successful defense against the Arab attack. Not only were they able to hold off the Arab armies, but they pushed them back and captured additional territory.

Claiming that God had a hand in the Arabs defeat gives far too much credit to the Arabs. There was no need for divine intervention in that war. The Arabs lost the war due to their own incompetence.
Reply #31 Top

Fortunately for Israel this was not the case.


You call it "fortunately", I find it entirely appropriate to thank G-d for it.

What makes good fortunes a miracle?
Reply #32 Top
Fortunately for Israel this was not the case. You call it "fortunately", I find it entirely appropriate to thank G-d for it. What makes good fortunes a miracle?


When the good fortune is the result of your enemies bad decisions. I'm not so inclined to call it a miracle. Give credit where credit is do. The Arabs have no one to blame but themselves. It wasn't divine intervention like many Jews claim and it certainly wasn't American intervention like many Muslims love to claim.


Reply #33 Top

When the good fortune is the result of your enemies bad decisions.


The Arabs had excellent leaders. But for some reason the people didn't trust them and celebrated bad leaders instead.

Of course, the excellent leaders did not want war with the Jews.



I'm not so inclined to call it a miracle. Give credit where credit is do.


I am.



The Arabs have no one to blame but themselves.


True.



It wasn't divine intervention like many Jews claim


I don't know many Jews who claim it was divine intervention. A miracle is not "divine intervention".



and it certainly wasn't American intervention like many Muslims love to claim.


True. America wasn't even interested in the conflict at the time, and the only impact America had on the conflict before 1968 was the demand for Israel to withdraw from Egypt.

Reply #34 Top
disagree with the idea that Israels victory in the 1948 war was some form of divine intervention. KFC


ok. How much of prophecy are you familiar with? Or are you just going on a gut feeling?

Did you not know that Israel (the Jews) being placed into their own land was detrimental to biblical prophecy surrounding the end of time? I remember reading a preacher who wrote about this in the early 1800's (if I remember correctly) Against all oppostion he said Israel had to somehow be regathered to Palestine if he understood prophecy correctly. At the time of his writing anti-semitism was runnig quite high and he was scoffed at.

Matthew Henry a preacher and great bible expositor said the same in the 1700's. He couldn't understand some things because he mentioned somehow it seemed to him that history hadn't caught up with prophecy yet.

If you do the research, like I did, you'd see that many many miracles took place to get Israel where they are today. Do you know anything about Eli Cohen and how he was instrumental in winning the six day war in 1967? The war was actually over in hours. The story behind Israel's victory is nothing less than stunning. I'm hoping to write about that soon.

So I definitely believe the placing of Israel into their own land is God's plan since the beginning of time. Read Ezekiel 37-38 for just one very important reference and what these preachers were looking at way back then. This was written about 570 BC when Israel had no homeland to call their own. Up until 1948 the Jews were scattered with no country for over 2,000 years.





Reply #35 Top
KFC,

We agree for once. Well said!

And let's not forget that this particular prophecy is found in the Bible, the Quran, and Zoroastrian teachings!
Reply #36 Top
Leauki can you quote me what it says in the Quran?