Obama should drop out NOW!

from JoeUser Forums

Hillary and ObamaI didn't think I'd actually agree with this line of thought, but after reading through this blog article on Slate, I have to say it makes a lot of sense.  Obama should drop out.  He should drop out NOW.  Get out of the race and let the chips fall where they may.

Yup, Obama should get out of the race immediately, [more]if not sooner.  Announce that it's for the good of the party, and then walk away.  Maybe not go so far as to offer the symbolic gesture and promise of supporting the newly ordained (yeah, I know, she was originally the pre-ordained) candidate, but just leave the big race to the queen of unelectibility.

Hillary Clinton keeps preaching that she's the only one that can win the big states...  uh, sure, she's the only one that can win the big states in a race against someone else that is just as liberal as she is but happens to be (a) male, and (b) Black.  Take away the fact that it's two Democrats competing in an election in any of those 'big states' that Hillary is trumpeting results from and you'd probably find that not only is Obama just as electible as she is, but he is probably much more electible in the general election because he doesn't bring along the nasty baggage that she does.

Hillary Clinton has been lucky so far.  Despite her camp's complaints that the media has treated her opponent in the Democratic campaign with kid gloves, she's basically gotten a free pass on all of the mud, dirt, sleeze and slime that would likely be coming her way in the general election.  She certainly hasn't seen any real fireworks out of her opponent, who has, by rights, not really even come close to using any real negative campaign tricks against her.

Has Obama been the darling of the media and gotten somewhat a free pass?  Probably.  But what of it?  Seriously, if there was much dirt out there to be found on Obama, it'd be there for the world to see.  No Presidential candidate can keep the skeletons in the closet for that long, despite how much the media might be in the tank for them.  Eventually the dirt comes out and it makes whatever impact upon the campaign it was destined to make all along.  That the campaign has been so relatively clean so far just serves to remind that we aren't in the general election season yet, and we aren't seeing the real mud slinging yet.  It's going to come and when it does the question becomes is there really enough mud and dirt out there to fling on Obama or is the worst of what's there the fact that he goes to a church where the leader seems to think more like Kanye West than say Adam West? (Though who knows, maybe Adam West believes similarily to Kanye West that it's a big conspiracy run by the 'man' (who happens to be White) to keep minorities in their places...)

Obama should definitely drop out of the race.  Chris Wilson (of Slate) is right.  Let Obama drop out and let's watch the Democratic party blow another election that is really their's to lose.  When all is said and done the results from such a move would be great -- the once and perhaps finally for all end of the Clinton control of the Democratic party and the definite end of the Bush/Clinton/Bush merry-go-round ride for the country.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hell no! He has the nomination right now. WHy would the winner concede?
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

Hell no! He has the nomination right now. WHy would the winner concede?
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That's what I asked myself when I saw the headline and blurb that led me the original blog article I linked to.  Read it through and it makes a lot of sense and actually could pretty easily be a prediction of things to come for the Democratic party (as well as for the Republicans).

As noted in that blog article, there's no way in hell Hillary Clinton would get out of the race.  It's just not her style.  She knows this is her one and only chance.  She stupidly stayed out of the race 4 years ago (and probably could have won that one), and has blown things badly enough that she shouldn't have any hope at all of winning this race, but ... she's still hanging around in the race and just won't quit.

Obama shouldn't quit, shouldn't need to think of quitting, but... if he did quit it could set a lot of events in motion that would bode pretty well for him in 2012.

There's a lot more sense to the idea than one would initially think, but at the same time it's all just one guys speculation of how things might play out *if* Obama wanted to put the screws to Hillary and set himself up better for the next presidential election cycle.

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
there's no way in hell Hillary Clinton would get out of the race
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That is why Obama should not! Total Chaos! Dont ya love it? ;)
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top

Hillary shouldn't get out of the race when she is still getting votes and WINNING primaries.  Why not just let the democratic process play out?  I LIKE the fact that Hillary is tough and not a quitter. 

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yup..."Fair"

What the heck IS that anyway? Is letting a semiliterate McDonald's worker trash a network so he can make the kind of money I do on a call "fair"? In the case of BOTH candidates, NEITHER can claim to have any level of superiority over the other.

But just to be "fair", Obama should split the money he made with Hil, right?
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
For the record, I agree...Hillary should not quit the race unless she somehow feels she is ready to do so. As much as I loathe the idea of a Hillary presidency, I have almost equally strong feelings about an Obama presidency (and, frankly, don't think a McCain presidency is much cooler). But as long as there is a mathematical chance to win, she shouldn't concede.

Now, if you ask me if I wish she WOULD, my answer would be a little different.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
A interesting article, I thought you might read. 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/24/AR2008042402976.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
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OPinion piece, not article.

ANd I love this part:

He was asked whether Hillary Clinton would bring "the changes necessary" to Washington, and his answer was "no."

Duh! What did he expect him to say "Hillary will be better than my candidate"? That is not an attack. That is a campaign!

I laugh when both of them just cry their eyes out "Bill is being mean to me!" or "Obama is being mean to me!". Get real! They are vying for the toughest job in the world, and both are whining like a couple of spoiled brats!
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Get real! They are vying for the toughest job in the world, and both are whining like a couple of spoiled brats!
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Occassionally, robots spring leaks. I hear this has to do with a shortage of their fuel. They run on lobby money.
Reply #10 from PolMach Forums Top
He should drop out NOW.
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That argument makes NO sense. Allowing spoiled children to get their way is how we wound up with GW, easily the worst president and arguably the worst person in the history of the country.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
That argument makes NO sense. Allowing spoiled children to get their way is how we wound up with GW,
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No, we ended up with GW because America cheated us out of our elected president, Al Gore.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
arguably the worst person in the history of the country.
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Arguably according to WHOM, precisely? Come on, I don't like Dubya, but to write him off as being the worst PERSON in the history of the country is a stretch. Now, if you said worst LEADER, I'd come closer to agreeing with you.

By the way, how's the luck going with googling the incident where he had people arrested for having Kerry bumper stickers on their cars? Thought so!
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
arrested for having Kerry bumper stickers on their cars?
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What? Post it. That doesn't make sense. It sounds like a bad PR move with no benefit.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
What? Post it. That doesn't make sense. It sounds like a bad PR move with no benefit.
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It was a claim made by The_Politico on another thread, which I and others challenged and he/she/they/it has/have refused to support.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Arguably according to WHOM, precisely?
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She is a caricture that just lobs fart bombs and then runs away. She has yet to deliver one coherant thought, and just starts throwing insults when you question her.

Wisefawn.
Reply #16 from PolMach Forums Top
Arguably according to WHOM, precisely?
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Any patriotic American.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Any patriotic American.
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That counts out vegetables. :LOL:
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
No, we ended up with GW because America cheated us out of our elected president, Al Gore.
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Al Gore was never elected, and there was no cheating involved.  It's time to get over it.


arguably the worst person in the history of the country.
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LOL!!!!!!
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Al Gore was never elected
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You are right, but he was democratically selected. It is a little ironic that the man who overcame democracy in order to rise to power should be the one who decided to blow holes into arabs heads so he could shove his ideals into them.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Al Gore was never elected

You are right, but he was democratically selected. It is a little ironic that the man who overcame democracy in order to rise to power should be the one who decided to blow holes into arabs heads so he could shove his ideal of democracy into them.
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[edit: ideals was too vague]