Americans will be choosing a philosophy of life in 2008.

The country is better under conservatism.

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from JoeUser Forums

What is all about?  Two days ago I heard Mr. Rush Limbaugh give the most profound monologue on conservatism I have ever heard.  For once I did not think his show was just a waste of electricity.  I guess I just don't understand the guy.

However, while listening to Bill Bennett, Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Bill Oriely, and that Beck guy I have been wondering why they do not talk specifically about the elements of the conservative movement.

Therefore, in the interest of education and an interest in reducing the victims of liberalism I will attempt to explain what conservatism means to me.  I must preface my remarks by saying that I have meditated on why people do what they do in life.  I have come to the conclusion that much our philosophy about life is immature and vicious.

To me the central core principal of conservatism is that something is being conserved.  This something is the moral code of conduct that governs life.  It comes from the Bible and relates to all aspects of life.

Lets face it no one just succeeds in life just because they want to succeed.  There has to be information that helps a person succeed.  Love of life, respect for others, adherence to laws, building a life, being a good person, spouse, parent, and neighbor are helpful values. Information such as the value of hard work and sacrifice are also good values.

In this modern world, however, many want to blame their failures on some one else.  When you do not adopt good values and spend your time doing everything wrong the last thing you want is to take personal responsibility for the mess you have made.  It is so much convenient to blame some one else.  There, however, is nothing in the water, air, or food that makes a person mentally weak, poor, or incapable to meet the challenges in life.

Now before you start to rant about me imposing my values on you I will state people like me who pay taxes are the ones cleaning up your messes.  I think that gives me the right to speak to you about adherence to values.  You seem to have no moral conflict about costing me money.  Why should I have an sensitivity to your sensitive ego?

Therefore, look at every aspect of life and the conservative philosophy will help you succeed.  You think liberal democrats go to were they are in life on government hand outs?  I know they did not.  They came from families that talked about personal responsibility, goals, and achievement.  Why do you think Chelsea Clinton did not get pregnant at thirteen?  She breathes the same air, drinks the same water, and eats the same kinds of foods as all the other teen girls who did get pregnant.

Ok I know the Clinton's are not conservatives.  Well they don't give to charities at the same rate as conservatives.  However, I am sure they used the values of hard work, personal responsibility, sacrifice, goals, and achievement as conservatives.  Their success is evident, if you measure personal success by the amount in their bank accounts.

Now, there is one value of the conservative movement I am sure the Clintons do not have.  This value is respect for life.  However, explain to me how people who invest greatly to have an abundant life find it easy to kill unborn children.  I cannot find the balance in going ape about the struggles of the poor yet being so willing to kill babies.

If unborn children are not important, why are the poor so important?  Is it because they are alive?  Well the unborn are alive.

In addition, life it self is awesome.  However, what the average person would call a good life comes from investment, organization, vision, and perseverance.

In my opinion, liberal attitudes coddle people and excuse them from their personal responsibility for their success.  Every single one of us started out with the same resources.  We live in a country with public education, values filled media, punishment for bad behavior, and interesting stimuli.   I know many criticize the media for its raunchy content.  However, I know there are values messages in the media.  I offer Christian radio and Christian TV as examples.  Therefore, it is not all bad.

Now, I point this all out because in the next election not only is a president going to be chosen by the people, but a philosophy of life is also going to be chosen by the voters.

America is better under the ideals of respect for life and an obligation to achieve personal success.

Alegria Mall

bill 2008
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Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
America is better under the ideals of respect for life and an obligation to achieve personal success.
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I believe that too. However, a good number of people think self-esteem and being handed everything is the way to go... They want the government to give to them, and give to the less fortunate for them. If one has to kill a baby to be more 'fortunate' so be it.
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Reply #3 from PolMach Forums Top
I have been wondering why they do not talk specifically about the elements of the conservative movement.
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because the essence of conservatism is greed, selfishness and a "me first" mentality.

Lets face it no one just succeeds in life just because they want to succeed.
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But plenty of people like the Bush family "succeed" because they happen to be born wealthy and don't manage to accomplish anything independent of that.

I will state people like me who pay taxes are the ones cleaning up your messes.
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You can state whatever the heck you want, doesn't make it true. I pay taxes and you don't clean up jack from me.

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
because the essence of conservatism is greed, selfishness and a "me first" mentality.
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The essence of liberalism is personal irresponsibility. The essence of conservative is personal responsibility. Is it greedy and selfish to ask that you be able to feed your own family? Or is it greedy and selfish to tax people more in order to pay for things for others who didn't earn them? Is it greedy and selfish to give to charity instead of the government, or is it greedy and selfish to give to the government because they're taking care of it?
Reply #5 from PolMach Forums Top
The essence of liberalism is personal irresponsibility
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Especially that liberal asshat Jesus. Where does he get off suggesting that the poor deserve anything other than a kick in the teeth for committing the crime of existing.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Jesus tried to get PEOPLE to give, not the government.
Reply #7 from PolMach Forums Top
not the government.
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He said Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, NOT fuck the poor the rich shouldn't have to pay for anything.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Let's try one more time.

Conservatives will take care of the poor themselves, individually, while liberals would rather pay the government to take care of the poor for them, collectively.
Reply #9 from PolMach Forums Top
Conservatives will take care of the poor themselves
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Anyone who thinks a conservative gives a DAMN about ANYONE other than themselves has no clue about the selfish nature of the modern conservative.
Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

The essence of liberalism is personal irresponsibility. The essence of conservative is personal responsibility. Is it greedy and selfish to ask that you be able to feed your own family? Or is it greedy and selfish to tax people more in order to pay for things for others who didn't earn them? Is it greedy and selfish to give to charity instead of the government, or is it greedy and selfish to give to the government because they're taking care of it?
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I respectfully disagree. Liberalism's essence is in individual liberties being the most important political goal. Modern, so called "liberalism" isn't. It's just a perverted form, at least the way the majoriy of them practice it.

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Anyone who thinks a conservative gives a DAMN about ANYONE other than themselves has no clue about the selfish nature of the modern conservative.
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Who gives more to charity, liberals or conservatives? 

The problem with liberals is they don't give, they want the government to provide. 
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Liberalism's essence is in individual liberties being the most important political goal.
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Then why is the liberal side wanting to mandate universal health coverage?

I don't understand you.

I think you're thinking of Libertarians.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Liberalism's essence is in individual liberties being the most important political goal.Then why is the liberal side wanting to mandate universal health coverage?I don't understand you.I think you're thinking of Libertarians.
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Like I said:

Liberalism's essence is in individual liberties being the most important political goal. Modern, so called "liberalism" isn't. It's just a perverted form, at least the way the majoriy of them practice it.
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Thanks for reading. :) Have a nice day.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
You edited that in as I was replying. :)