Abortion....there is no way it is right and thats it.

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Abortion....there is no way it is right and thats it. By: Repisgood Posted: Saturday, October 09, 2004 Message Board: Democrat Abortion is an issue lots of people seem to care about. I myself being a republican/democrat think it is murder. Under no circumstance does abortion need to happen. I will give you excuses people make and answers to each..... EXCUSE 1: What if a girl was raped? ANSWER 1: Doesn't matter.....it isn't the babies fault she was raped and there is no need in killing it. BEST SOLUTION:Don't walk in places you know are dangerous and have an adoption if you birth it. EXCUSE 2: Well what if mothers kill themselves and the baby with hangers or have illegal abortion? ANSWER 2: If the mother is that stupid she deserves to die cause she is murdering her baby along with her. BEST SOLUTION: Keep your legs closed cause once you drop your panties your responsible for a new life and thats all there is to it.....and again have an adoption. EXCUSE 3: Well what if the mother is terribly ill or will die if she has her baby? ANSWER 3: If she is ill and knows what will happen to her baby she shouldn't have sex....plain and simple BEST SOLUTION: Keep your legs closed EXCUSE 4: Its my body i should chose what to do with it? ANSWER 4: No acctually its not your body your deciding to get rid of. Its someone elses it's your precious childs who wants a chance at life just like you got. BEST SOLUTION: Don't have sex when you don't want a child. EXCUSE 5: What if i have a life ahead of me and i can't take care of it because im in a bad family? ANSWER 5: I think you should have thought of that before you decided to bump uglies with a mate. BEST SOLUTION: Have adoption These are the basic main excuses. Of course there is always some dumb excuse liberals make to be stupid like this one i heard it went "WHat if your were epileptic and you were raped and then you died when you had your baby and then the baby died anyways in a hurricane two months later?" I stared at her and then slapped her and said "stop babbling stupidity you feminist"

Your FLAT wrong things happen outside of you control. 2 -5 I agree with you. The *original* abortion law was good, then the feel gooders twisted it! If abortions are based on current law BAD, go back to original concept, NOT BAD. I will never agree to your number 1 statement! They don't have to be walking in a bad place for rape to happen!

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Me too. Rich folks will get thiers, poor folks will get the coat hanger....

I do not like the brazen extreme way this individual chose too state their opinion in regard to this issue although I personally believe abortion is wrong as well. Adoption is an excellent choice for those who are unable to handle the addtional responsibility. In the case of the Mother's life being in danger well, I believe that a doctor cannot hand out a solidified fortune. I have read a few different articles of doctors stating this years ago and the Mother chose to go through with their pregnancy and survived. This may not always be the case in that situation but it has occured.

I wrote a paper on partial~birth abortions in college I do not think people realize how this procedure is done. I cannot thank President Bush enough for placing a ban on this horrendous act. I apologize for the explict description but this is what was done. This is like a breech delivery. The entire infant is delivered except the head. A scissors is jammed into the base of the skull. A tube is inserted into the skull, and the brain is sucked out. The now-dead infant is pulled out.

I do not believe the goverment should ever fund abortion clinics.

This is my opinion and it's ok just as those who disagree have their opinion.

~Have a good evening~!~

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I would like to make a partial retraction. I don't agree with the poster of example 3 either! So that's 1 &3 I think are lousy!

I agree, man. If you fuck n get caught it's your fault. And, like rape is.... no excuse. n stuff.

Goddamn. It's a shame the things you see when you don't have a gun handy.

Show what is so wrong with 1 and 3. I address this issue in a way it makes the people who do it seem more stupid. Because thats what it is.

I believe the baby should have a chance at life instead of not being born. And no one has the right to take that away from them.

I believe in pro-choice.....she made her choice when she dropped her panties.

Though that may seem a bit harsh its true. You can't just go off having sex and expect to get away with it....there are consequences to actions like these. Taking a life away isn't a way to solve. What i'm getting from you is that if a girl makes a mistake so big as this one and gets pregnant she has the right to kill a baby.....not a fetis... a baby, a child who could grow up to be the best thing to happen in not only a person's life but also the world. Every one should have a chance at life......when you abort a baby you take away a life that wanted to get a first kiss, that wanted to go bowling with a dad, that wanted to cook with mom, that wanted to enjoy life's amenties and go through life's trials. YOu can't just snatch away a life because you goofed. About rape.....it still isn't the babies fault that you got raped.....You don't take away a life as redemption from a tragedy. It won't work like that....it shouldn't work like that......it can't work like that.

Reply #8 By: Repisgood - 10/9/2004 11:38:10 PM Show what is so wrong with 1 and 3. I address this issue in a way it makes the people who do it seem more stupid. Because thats what it is. I believe the baby should have a chance at life instead of not being born. And no one has the right to take that away from them. I believe in pro-choice.....she made her choice when she dropped her panties

BIG TIME WRONG on number 1 She made NO choice to drop her panties. If she was raped that "choice" was taken away from her. As to #3 people get sick all the time. Sometimes you can't tell right away. Sometimes the pregnancy will go wrong and bring the woman to death's door. She might have had no notion that she was sick when she got pregnant. Like what happened to my mother carrying me. She came down deathly ill in the 3rd trimester. Doc said abort or die. Thankfully my mother said she'd take her chances, it all turned out all right. But it could have went SO wrong

About rape.....it still isn't the babies fault that you got raped.....You don't take away a life as redemption from a tragedy. It won't work like that....it shouldn't work like that......it can't work like that.

It DOES work like that! And weather you like it or not will probably continue like that!

I believe in pro-choice.....she made her choice when she dropped her panties.

You are NOT pro-choice! Your statements say otherwise.

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- GX

Don't walk in places you know are dangerous and have an adoption if you birth it.

In too many times, the dangerous place isn't what you would consider "dangerous".

1. In ones own home.
2. School
3. Store. In one case, lady was walking out when she was kidnapped and raped and was killed. Did she know the store always has kidnapper/rapists? Hell no.

EXCUSE 2: Well what if mothers kill themselves and the baby with hangers or have illegal abortion? ANSWER 2: If the mother is that stupid she deserves to die cause she is murdering her baby along with her. BEST SOLUTION: Keep your legs closed cause once you drop your panties your responsible for a new life and thats all there is to it.....and again have an adoption.

Well too late, that lady's DEAD.

EXCUSE 3: Well what if the mother is terribly ill or will die if she has her baby? ANSWER 3: If she is ill and knows what will happen to her baby she shouldn't have sex....plain and simple BEST SOLUTION: Keep your legs closed

Suppose it wasn't apparent till it's too late. That is possible, you know. Fetus may attach to Fallon tubes by mistake. Is it mother's fault that it happened? Yes, according to you.

Show what is so wrong with 1 and 3. I address this issue in a way it makes the people who do it seem more stupid. Because thats what it is.

Rape is stupid???!!! No, my sweet, stupid is your assertion that if you don't want to get raped, you shouldn't walk in 'places you know are dangerous'.  That's what's stupid. Women get raped in their own homes, in their cars, in the workplace.  It has nothing to do with places being dangerous.

As for women aborting children to save their lives...sometimes women don't know they're ill before they get pregnant.  My friend Carla found out she had breast cancer when she was 16 weeks along.  She had to abort the child; if she didn't she wouldn't have lived to carry it to term.  (that means she'd have died before the baby was old enough to be born, in case you're having trouble understanding my terminology and long words).

I find your outlook unbearably ignorant and outrageously stupid.  There were more things I wanted to say but none of them were very nice....so I deleted them.  Much like I'd like to delete you. 

I agree with the spirit of the article. I think, however, that just like people have no problem with cutting off thieves' hands in fundamentalist Arab nations, we can't expect there to be a universal idea of humanity. Some people think they are being more human and moral to kill a child before it is born than to risk it having an unhappy life.

I had a long conversation with someone from the WinCusto community, and they finally came out and said that they believed babies with Down's Syndrome and other defects, if detected before birth, should be aborted. It was one of the most hideous things I ever heard come from someone I knew well and knew to be sane, civil, and otherwise morally outstanding.

They don't understand us, and we don't understand them. In the end, a child is going to be born, and they are willing to kill it before it is born to prevent some other hardship. To many of us it looks barbaric, but Arabs don't understand why we think amputation is a barbaric punishment either...

First off there is only one circumstance i believe abortion should happen and one only. If the mother gets sick and threatens her life and the baby's life as well and she only knew about her sickness after impregnation. That is it. Cause in that case it's really no one's fault.

I heard a quote once that said "Why is killing the baby 10 seconds before birth called abortion while killing the baby ten seconds after is called murder" Look at the pattern....

Murder is when you take someone elses life away on purpose.
Taking a baby's life before birth is called Abortion.
Therefore Murder is Abortion.....they both involve taking someone's life away that deserves to live and that is wrong. Not a one of you in this forum can tell me that it is right to kill a baby inside the stomach. Because murder is against the law thus so should abortion.

Reply #15 By: Repisgood - 10/10/2004 2:46:54 PM First off there is only one circumstance i believe abortion should happen and one only. If the mother gets sick and threatens her life and the baby's life as well and she only knew about her sickness after impregnation. That is it. Cause in that case it's really no one's fault. I heard a quote once that said "Why is killing the baby 10 seconds before birth called abortion while killing the baby ten seconds after is called murder" Look at the pattern.... Murder is when you take someone elses life away on purpose. Taking a baby's life before birth is called Abortion. Therefore Murder is Abortion.....they both involve taking someone's life away that deserves to live and that is wrong. Not a one of you in this forum can tell me that it is right to kill a baby inside the stomach. Because murder is against the law thus so should abortion.

This is *your* interpretation of it. But it's not law now is it?

Laws are humorous. One reason partial birth abortion was used in some cases was because of laws. If they let the baby come all the way out, it is actually "born". If they pull it halfway out, it isn't legally "born" yet, so they can kill it as they see fit.

There were lots of regulatory slavery laws. Places like China and Arab nations have laws that we call barbaric. Just because you can write something down doesn't mean it is a universal truth.

KILLING IS WRONG and thats what Abortion is.

Until you can proove to me that killing is right then no right minded person should believe in abortion.

KILLING IS WRONG and thats what Abortion is.

Until you can proove to me that killing is right then no right minded person should believe in abortion.

KILLING IS WRONG and thats what Abortion is.

Until you can proove to me that killing is right then no right minded person should believe in abortion.

Here is my two cents worth thrown in, snippet taken from my article On the Topic of GX:
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5. Abortion is more of a 'red herring' issue but I figured I might as well state my view on it. I believe abortion out of inconvenience is wrong, with so many contraceptives available everywhere today why do pregnancies of inconvenience exist? Someone just should have tried a contraceptive instead of abortion.

I do support abortions when the LIFE of the Mother is directly affected, i.e. the Mother will die or the child will die if it is born or carried, but the actual numbers of these kinds of abortions are so infinitesimal it is mind-boggling. Rape children are still a small number.

If people support abortion so well, than why not send an abortion specialist to that person's house, they do the abortion there end of story. Need to cut funding to Abortion (i.e. Clinics) and take that money put into something that will help the economy, US needs to get out of 'Red Herring' politics.
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6. Population Control. This might cut down on alot of stuff and help alleviate the future system, if number of children a Mother or Family can have are limited, they can get around this by adopting, adoptions will not count towards the total of Children someone can have. If measures are not taken to control this (as awful as it may sound) world will reach the point where people will are dieing because the planet cannot support them.

Like limit the number of children someone can have to help preserve the world for future generations, a much better way to cut down on abortion for inconvenience the pro-life people can put stipulations into this that state that any child aborted out of inconvenience counts towards the total number of children one can have, but if it was an abortion to save one's life than that does not count towards the total. Must think of the future even today, if we want to still live on this planet or have our descendants live on this planet.

This is not awful but one decision that must be done, this will also help to cut down on those who wish to have babies just to get a bigger check from Government. As for China, that system is awful, the rich can buy their way out of it, the poor still get rid of their girls, and now their is a huge black market that deals in human trafficking. To rectify this and to ensure the system works, PUT SOME DAMN INTEGRITY IN, like not bowing to anyone no matter how much money is tossed around PERIOD
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Well two points of the initial six points I did, which reminds me I need to do an article covering the core values of Chaos M.

Well I would put more but I got something else to do.

- GX

It's interesting how a baby has a 25% chance of survival if born at 23 weeks (no that is not a typo) Micropremies survival rate is on the rise.

At 24 weeks the survival rate doubles to 50%.

Of all children born before 25 weeks, they have a 50% chance of being 100% normal, 25% chance of needing glasses or having a minor disfunction (ADD or asthma) and a 25% chance of a serious disability.

Abortions can be performed up to 26 weeks......hmmm.

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KILLING IS WRONG

Eh, not all killing is wrong.....of course that's my opinion, though it does bring me to a few questions for you Repisgood

1). Are you a vegetarian?
2). Do you use pesticides or have ever squashed a bug?
3). Are you Anti-War?

Now if you answered no to #1, yes to #2, AND/OR no to #3 you might just need to redefine your thoughts.....sorry for being an asshole, I'm just curious.

~Zoo

Reply #18 By: Repisgood - 10/10/2004 4:17:16 PM KILLING IS WRONG and thats what Abortion is. Until you can proove to me that killing is right then no right minded person should believe in abortion.

Like I said before what you and I believe is immaterial! The "law" says otherwise. I can't believe that the women on this list are letting this go!