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Bush losing the second debate...

Better but not good enough..

October 8, 2004 9:25:22 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums

Bush is doing better this time but he's still totally outclassed by Kerry.

The momentum is shifting to Kerry. President Kerry? Republicans may need to get used to that.

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Reply #1 October 8, 2004 9:29:43 PM
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I'm a little surprised you are feeling that way, Drag. Kerry is much more tenuous & unsure of himself and Bush is very confident and doing well on his core issues. I think this will help Bush a lot and take some of the steam out of the MSM's heavy breathing about Kerry's "momentum."

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Reply #2 October 8, 2004 9:33:56 PM
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He is doing better. No doubt about that. But I don't think it's good enough.

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Reply #3 October 8, 2004 9:38:50 PM
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If I hear "I have a plan..." one more time I'm gonna puke.

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Reply #4 October 8, 2004 9:41:09 PM
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Bush is doing better this time but he's still totally outclassed by Kerry.


If you consider Kerry's style of always getting the last word in, and going back to previous questions before he answers the question at hand a part of his class than Kerry is good.

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Reply #5 October 8, 2004 9:47:51 PM
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President Kerry? Republicans may need to get used to that.

*drops to floor, curls into fetal postion with fingers in ears* LALALALALALALALALA NOT LISTENING!!!!!!!!

Ahem...sorry, I was overcome by leftist tactics for a second there......so, you were saying?

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Reply #6 October 8, 2004 9:49:11 PM
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I think Bush did much better tonight as you have stated here I do disagree however that Kerry gained. It's my opinion 4 more years for President Bush.

Oh Need some wood? hehe gotta love the sense of humor

Taxes will be raised with Kerry in office I agree with Bush here all of these "plans" are going to cost everyone in the long run.

The same with the HealthKerr "plan" it's a joke.

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Reply #7 October 8, 2004 9:49:44 PM
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I want a nickel for evrytime I heard "I've got a plan"! "Need some wood?"
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Reply #8 October 8, 2004 9:50:02 PM
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Kerry Won
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Reply #9 October 8, 2004 9:51:26 PM
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I agree that Kerry has virtually outclassed Bush, and Bush did little better than last time.
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Reply #10 October 8, 2004 9:52:26 PM
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Reply #8 By: sandy2 - 10/8/2004 9:50:02 PM
Kerry Won


No way! All you heard was "I have a plan". Not what the plan was, but I have a plan!
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Reply #11 October 8, 2004 9:53:11 PM
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I never knew you were a pesimist Draginol, Bush squeeked by Kerry on this one. He hit alot of questions out of the park, and only missed one real oppurtunity (Kerry jumping on the 90% casualties, 90% of the cost slurs again).

Decent little political event.
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Reply #12 October 8, 2004 10:01:06 PM
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The Draft was an awesome homerun for Bush.

'It is a swing and hit!'
'Deep into left field and...'
'It is out of the park...HOMERUN!!'

I still like the 'Want some wood?'

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Reply #13 October 8, 2004 10:02:49 PM
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Full disclosure: I was driving home and was listening to this on the radio. So my impressions may be different than yours.
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Reply #14 October 8, 2004 10:04:47 PM
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Kerry sitting there saying that Bush owned a timber company and was a corporation was funny... especially when Bush stood up and said he didn't know he owned a lumber company! "Want some wood?" is a classic.
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Reply #15 October 8, 2004 10:04:50 PM
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Bush is a lightweight speaker.  That's no surprise.


He had an advantage over Gore, because Bush seemed more personable.


Bush has a hard tome getting that "personability" to transfer to a defense of his record.


Regardless of how strongly he believes in what he (Bush) does, he has a hard time putting it into words.  He's a dogmatist rather than an orator.


That's what Americans voted for.

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Reply #16 October 8, 2004 10:09:10 PM
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Seeing would have made a difference, Drag. He looked energetic, sincere and confident. No signs of timidity or befuddlement like the first debate. What was up with the first debate I don't know, but he was like his "normal" self on the stump. He looked and sounded likeable and genuine. Kerry looked and sounded wooden and professorial.

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Reply #17 October 8, 2004 10:14:51 PM
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Kerry was coached by all the cleaver liars of his ilk and that includes Clinton. I can't believe the people can't see through his lies. Just his looks waiting this turn to speak, spells liar. And don't forget he marched with Fonda committing treason. How can someone like that become president? If this guy Kerry is elected president, mark my words, the country will be saying what a drastic mistake it was and will be praying for another contender in four years. If a nuclear strike in the US hasn't happened by then.

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Reply #18 October 8, 2004 10:18:04 PM
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Kerry stares into the camera: 'I will not raise taxes...' (Anybody Remember Clinton's same line?)

Minute later same Kerry different mindset: '...rolling back tax cuts...'

Last time I checked when you roll back a tax cut it is called a tax raise, right?

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Reply #19 October 8, 2004 10:22:18 PM
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Grim: He CLAIMS that he isn't going to roll back the cuts for people making less than 200k. He also has said that he will actually lower taxes for the Middle Class. Right now, somewhere, little Democrat gnomes are outfitting pigs with wings...
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Reply #20 October 8, 2004 10:28:07 PM
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He CLAIMS that he isn't going to roll back the cuts for people making less than 200k. He also has said that he will actually lower taxes for the Middle Class. Right now, somewhere, little Democrat gnomes are outfitting pigs with wings...



Yep those are the guys who work with the underpants gnomes!!

Sorry but history tells me when ANYBODY repeals a tax cut or raises taxes it effects EVERYBODY, because that is how Congress works it!!
(Still does anybody remember Clinton saying he would not raise taxes too? What did he do after that? )

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Reply #21 October 8, 2004 10:33:13 PM
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Right now, somewhere, little Democrat gnomes are outfitting pigs with wings...


I like that so much! Kerry has the Gnomes working for him. Support Kerry and support the little gnomes of America! Support Bush support real Americans!
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Reply #22 October 8, 2004 10:34:58 PM
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A drastic mistake of Kerry is to involve those thieving corruptors of the EU. Those guys in the EU were siphoning off billions in the oil for food and selling arms to Saddam. The kids starved to death while the EU were living high on the hog. And, this is Kerry's partners. Forget Kerry's pretty face and outward deceptions and look to his character. And you know that loose cannon, multi-billionare wife will have her input in how to run the country. Enough said.

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Reply #23 October 8, 2004 10:42:27 PM
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Kerry was coached by all the cleaver liars of his ilk and that includes Clinton. I can't believe the people can't see through his lies. Just his looks waiting this turn to speak, spells liar. And don't forget he marched with Fonda committing treason. How can someone like that become president? If this guy Kerry is elected president, mark my words, the country will be saying what a drastic mistake it was and will be praying for another contender in four years. If a nuclear strike in the US hasn't happened by then.


I will not stand for this. Please view the articlees on the ridiculousness of people like you.
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Reply #24 October 8, 2004 10:59:02 PM
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Sorry sandy2, open your eyes, the consequences of what Kerry did in the anti war protests cost thousands of American lives by prolonging the war. You must really accept fact instead of playing ostrich then you'll be on par to play adult games.

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Reply #25 October 8, 2004 10:59:31 PM
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To some people, Sandy, meeting with North Koreans while we are at war with them is considered treason. You may differ, but you really don't have much choice other than tolerating it. It is as valid an opinion as yours.
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