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What is wrong with the American Voter?

What is wrong with the American Voter?

As we move closer to Novemner 2, the polls continue to show a 50/50 split in America. If one were able to step back and look at the facts without the spin both sides use, it would seem to me Kerry should be far ahead.

Polls show that 60% want major changes in our policies and 89 % want some changes. Part of the 50% that are supporting Bush must be part of the 60% and 89% that want change. These Bush supporters must know he will not change in a second term and by voting for him they will get what they claim they do not want - more of the same!

The events in Iraq clearly show the way Bush conducted this war was an error. Even if you supported going to war, few can say he has done the job well. His choices have increased the danger to our military and have turned the Iraq people against the U.S. Why would we want to reward Bush with another term or run the risk of another conflict in which he applied his inept choices.

Look at the economic results:

Job growth that has not produced the jobs needed for our growing population. Bush tells us about the 1.5 million new jobs created during the past 15 months and Kerry tells us about the net loss of 800,000 jobs since Bush took office. What about the over 5 million new workers that enteted the work force in America since Bush took office? Where are the jobs for them? We are 6 million jobs short and the Bush economic policies and tax cuts have not stimulated the economy to create the needed jobs.

We have gone from a national debt of $5.8 Trillion when Bush took office to $7.5 Trillion today. If you turn to OMB and the Bush budget projection, you will find the president predicts that by the end of FY 2008, we will have a national debt of just short of $10 Trillion and never shows a balanced federal budget. His next action is to make all his tax cuts permanent and create even more debt.

Look at the Trade deficit and the jobs that keep going out of this country. What have his policies done to stem that loss?

Look at oil prices. Have we moved away from dependence on foreign oil? NO. Rather then supporting an energy policy that would require increased fuel efficiency, Bush insists on drilling in Alaska that would not produce as much oil as increasing average mileage by one mile per gallon. In addition, drilling in Alaska would take 10 years before any amount of added oil would be produced.

The above are all facts about our situation on October 8, 2004. How can half of America want to continue this by re-electing George W?
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Reply #26 By: Patriot_Flamethrower (Anonymous) - 10/8/2004 3:39:24 PM
Well, "COL Gene", so much of what you have stated is FLAWED, that I really don't know where to start.

First of all, just because YOU believe what you say are FACTS does not make it so. How much more ARROGANT can you be?

The unemployment rate is 5.4%, which is LOWER than it was during this same period in your hero Bill Clinton's first term.

Are you aware that the unemployment rate calculated by our federal government bean counters do NOT include self-employed people? I just wonder how many of the umemployed people that you claim have "given up" looking for jobs have actually gone into business for themselves. I have a difficult time believing that any RESPONSIBLE adult would just throw his hands up, give up looking for a job, and watch his family starve to death. Just a thought.

Are you aware that the unemployment rate does NOT include any new start-up businesses from the past TWO YEARS? Of COURSE you are not aware of that. It takes 2 years for the unemployment business survey to catch up to these new businesses.

You criticize "trickled-down economics", but Ronald Reagan presided over the largest economic expansion in the HISTORY of the United States during the 1980s, or were you too young to remember much about the 80s?

Did you forget that we were ATTACKED on September 11, 2001, "COL Gene"? Our economy took a HUGE hit when that happened. The Dow lost 2500 points OVERNIGHT. The airline industry was almost destroyed, with many airlines STILL either bankrupt or teetering on bankruptcy.

Did you forget that we are AT WAR, in Afghanistan and in Iraq? Wars cost a LOT of money.

Did you forget that a whole new cabinet-level department was created as a result of 9/11? Does the Department of Homeland Security ring a bell? BILLIONS of dollars have been spent by our government to beef up homeland security, hire more airport screening personnel, beef up fire and police departments nationwide, and the list goes on and on and on.

Have you bothered to understand that we have not had ONE attack on American soil SINCE 9/11? Why do you suppose that is?

Well, I could write a BOOK on all of the errors and lies and political rhetoric and half-truths that you spewed in your RANT, but I am not going to waste any more of MY time on you. It wouldn't do any good anyway, because you are just a typical leftie SHEEP, too lazy to spend the time seeking the TRUTH, and too unintelligent to understand the big picture.


From what I gather from the Col's posts is that he has written a book and considers himself a genius! Well woop-de-do!
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I want change and I support Bush. Here are some changes I want to see:

I want less dependence on foreign oil, so I support the candidate who has called for tax credits for biodiesel, ethanol and other alternative fuels - George W. Bush. I support the candidate who developed an energy policy that included conservation and new production at home - George W. Bush.

I want an end to the unconstitutional filibuster of judicial nominees. Something that has only happened once in all of American history. In 1998 Democrat Senatory Patrick Leahy said, "I would object and fight against any filibuster on a judge, whether it is somebody I opposed or supported." After Bush was elected, Leahy joined wholeheartedly in filbustering judicial nominees. I want to see that changed and that means voting out 5 Democrat Senators.

I want a change in domestic spending - I want less of it. Kerry has proposed some 2 trillion dollars and counting in new domestic spending. That certainly won't help the deficit either, though frankly the deficit is low relative to GDP in historical terms especially for wartime.

I want a change in Iraq and the war on terror. I want to send terrorists the message that America will not back down, that we will not shift in our positions based on casualties we see on TV, that we have the guts to see this thing through. That if we commit troops to battle, we will support them once they are there. That once the American people vote to fund the troops they won't vote against it. The best way to send terrorists that message - re-elect George W. Bush.
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You can confuse the issue with the mechaics of how the Fed calculates the unemployment rate . I never claimed I was a expert. I have done a lot of research and do know that the economic policies of Bush have not produced the jobs required to keep up with our population growth. That was not the case during the 1990's.

I have researched the deficit and the impact of the economic policy we are following which is the same policy that created almost 5 Trillion in debt betweem 1980 and 2001. Between 2001 and today our debt went from $5.8 Trillion to $7.5 Trillion. If I take George W. at his word from his budget projection, the deficit will be $10 Trillion by the end of 2008.

If you don't believe the American Tax payer will pay for that irresponsible policy, just wait and see. Print these Blogs and look at them when they come true.

The people who blindly support this VooDoo economics will pay the price along with everyone else. No person, No company and no country can follow the path we are on without paying the consequenses!
Reread this Blog. Every thing is correct even though some may not like it!
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I want change and I support Bush. Here are some changes I want to see:

I want less dependence on foreign oil, so I support the candidate who has called for tax credits for biodiesel, ethanol and other alternative fuels - George W. Bush. I support the candidate who developed an energy policy that included conservation and new production at home - George W. Bush.

I want an end to the unconstitutional filibuster of judicial nominees. Something that has only happened once in all of American history. In 1998 Democrat Senatory Patrick Leahy said, "I would object and fight against any filibuster on a judge, whether it is somebody I opposed or supported." After Bush was elected, Leahy joined wholeheartedly in filbustering judicial nominees. I want to see that changed and that means voting out 5 Democrat Senators.

I want a change in domestic spending - I want less of it. Kerry has proposed some 2 trillion dollars and counting in new domestic spending. That certainly won't help the deficit either, though frankly the deficit is low relative to GDP in historical terms especially for wartime.

I want a change in Iraq and the war on terror. I want to send terrorists the message that America will not back down, that we will not shift in our positions based on casualties we see on TV, that we have the guts to see this thing through. That if we commit troops to battle, we will support them once they are there. That once the American people vote to fund the troops they won't vote against it. The best way to send terrorists that message - re-elect George W. Bush.


From what you have stated, you sound like you want Kerry.
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I want a change in Iraq and the war on terror. I want to send terrorists the message that America will not back down, that we will not shift in our positions based on casualties we see on TV, that we have the guts to see this thing through. That if we commit troops to battle, we will support them once they are there.


Yes one of many reasons not to choose Kerry, he will bring Carter style diplomacy back to deal with terrorist. The whole reason terrorists think they can accomplish something with the US using terrorism is because of Carter backing down, giving in is never the right option with terrorists, you only ask for more terror, after all did this kind of diplomacy work with Hitler and the Appeasement deal?

- GX
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Reply By: Patriot_Flamethrower(Anonymous User)Posted: Friday, October 08, 2004Well, "COL Gene", so much of what you have stated is FLAWED, that I really don't know where to start.


Well, I could write a BOOK on all of the errors and lies and political rhetoric and half-truths that you spewed in your RANT, but I am not going to waste any more of MY time on you. It wouldn't do any good anyway, because you are just a typical leftie SHEEP, too lazy to spend the time seeking the TRUTH, and too unintelligent to understand the big picture


sounds like the right's getting a little worried and defensive... if people are so comfortable in their political position, why must they rag on the other parties...are they afraid someone might like what the other parties say?
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Amazing how much the "fear" strategy" developed and implemented by the Bush administration continues to brainwash a reported 50% or more Americans. If you really want to know what this is about, take a serious look at the 23 some odd companies the George W. Bush ran into the ground before he was Gov. of Texas, how and whom he always got bailed out by, and George W's and his fathers relationships with the Saudi's, in particular, the Bin Ladens, and also which names were crossed out, (censored), by the current administration in the 911 report and in Bush's military records. A hint, the same person in both reports was the principle funds manager for the Bin Laden family and many Saudi's, handeling their investments in the US. These are well documented facts and it is also a fact that Saudi Arabia owns an estimated 6-7% of the US wealth. For those of you Bush supporters out there who think you are being patriotic, I know you think you are right and justified in your cause but you have been duped and continue to be duped.

Even if someone took the time to explain and prove it to you, many of you would continue to choose not to believe. That becomes more and more obvious every time I read these blogs, written by what would otherwise appear to be very intelligent people. The really scary thing about this election is not the politics, that is pretty much the same as it always is. The frightening thing, in my opinion is that people in this country can be so easily brainwashed and spit into the face of fact and truth as if they were doing their patriotic duty.

Shut off your televisions, open your eyes and read some history... double and triple check your facts and use some common sense. It's amazing what happens. In the mean time the oil keeps on flowing and innocent people die every day. I guess ignorance and a stubborn resistance to opening you eyes and mind is to tasking and it's much easier to repeat what the media has taught you. I am saying this as a ex - Bush advocate, (I was completely duped too), and a not to crazy about Kerry average Joe. But I definately will be voting for Kerry this time around. Bush and his gang are the most dangerous game going and I want nothing more to do with them other than vote to get them the hell out of my life. That's what I consider my patriotic duty.
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Reply #32 By: Silver_and_Jade_Tears - 10/8/2004 5:47:31 PM
Reply By: Patriot_Flamethrower(Anonymous User)Posted: Friday, October 08, 2004Well, "COL Gene", so much of what you have stated is FLAWED, that I really don't know where to start.


Well, I could write a BOOK on all of the errors and lies and political rhetoric and half-truths that you spewed in your RANT, but I am not going to waste any more of MY time on you. It wouldn't do any good anyway, because you are just a typical leftie SHEEP, too lazy to spend the time seeking the TRUTH, and too unintelligent to understand the big picture


sounds like the right's getting a little worried and defensive... if people are so comfortable in their political position, why must they rag on the other parties...are they afraid someone might like what the other parties say


Excuse me the *left* is NO better!
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"Amazing how much the "fear" strategy" developed and implemented by the Bush administration continues to brainwash a reported 50% or more Americans."


ANd yet even after Bush stated that if he was re-elected he WOULDN'T reinstate the draft, the majority of college aged males polled on campuses around the country stated they believed if Bush were re-elected they'd face a draft.

I don't think Republicans have the market cornered on scare tactics. Not by a long shot...

"For those of you Bush supporters out there who think you are being patriotic, I know you think you are right and justified in your cause but you have been duped and continue to be duped.

Even if someone took the time to explain and prove it to you, many of you would continue to choose not to believe. "


You realize that is the same logic used by people who preach about Trilateral commission/Zionist conspiracies and alien abductions, right? Hell, if it makes you feel more normal, I guess...

"Shut off your televisions, open your eyes and read some history... double and triple check your facts and use some common sense."


NO offense, but if you think you are that much more well-informed than the rest of us then YOU are the one that is brainwashed...

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Excuse me the *left* is NO better!


LoL...I didn't say it was. But you don't find many of the "left" bloggers on here calling people boogers and such, as Patriot has. *rolling eyes* this election has gotten way out of hand.

I believe I will be disenfranchised, and vote for a third party. Then I don't have to worry about being labeled left or right, as I am finding them both to be disgraceful.
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Hey Bakerstreet, you just proved all my points. Not necessary, but thanks I guess. And yes I am very well informed thank you. That a problem for you?
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I love the statistics that come out every presidential election regardless of whose running. It’s always the same thing, see how many poor we have without jobs, see how the economy has grown, but clearly not enough to supply jobs for everyone. Its facts of life people, its human nature to better oneself, and as it is with every developed nation, and every developing nation, and most of the others too, one does that through $$. Even if we split everything we have evenly, even if there weren’t greedy and needy, even if we got rid of all the people who would take advantage of situation, everyone would have to do without. It’s sad but true. I'm not saying this in defense of Bush, though I admit he's currently my candidate, I say it because to think everything is going to be peachy keen is just silly and juvenile.

If things were really bad (and they’re not, things are really pretty good relatively and comparatively speaking), and you can point out exact reasons why such things are a presidents fault, then by all means vote against him. Remember hind sight is 20/20 though, its easy to point fingers after the fact, and its easy to listen to the flowering speeches of others of how they could do better, but unless I've been living in a perfect world, and haven’t known it, things don’t always work out the way we plan, just look at Kerry, how many of his bills have made it into law.

I personally think Kerry is an over-inflated bag waiting to pop. He makes promise after promise, half of which contradict previous statements, and seems to be living in a reality of his own. Dealing with real problems if he were to be president is an entirely different matter, he’s going to have to deal with a government that is going to oppose him frequently, he’s going to have to deal with unforeseen circumstances, and he’s not going to be able to deliver everything he’s promised. That’s just the way it is, with every president.

I think Kerry is going to win, and that’s all right, even if we had a great president the wrong circumstances could deal out a horrible four years, and the opposite is true for Kerry. When someone gives me a crystal ball then I'll spew out prophecies of a bleak or prosperous future, but until then, all values out the window, I’m going to vote for the person I think interferes with my life directly and indirectly the least. Last 4 years have been great, and with the way things are going the future is only brighter.
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i like getting my tax money back as much as the next guy, but this is somewhere where what we want conflicts with reality. If you'll remember the times when we built a strong economy on credit, without fail, there was an economic crisis. After the "Roaring Twenties" with their great spending and the attempted "trickle down" affect, we built so much off of credit that we ended up in a net debt after the crash of 1929. I want my money too, but we have to behave responsibly with it and can't just spend money we don't have.
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"Hey Bakerstreet, you just proved all my points. Not necessary, but thanks I guess. And yes I am very well informed thank you. That a problem for you?"


Pfft. You made the point that people who disagree with you are misled, brainwashed, ignorant, get all their information from TV yap, yap, yap.

Fine, you pick then. You're either paranoid or intolerably egotistical. You either believe that somehow you are better than 50% of the nation in that you weren't brainwashed, or somehow the dark, brainwashing conspiracy didn't get around to you.

I think if you open your eyes you'll see a LOT of very noteworthy people who are vastly well educated and well informed support Bush. When you come here and pretend that people vote Bush because they are ignorant or brainwashed you just turn scrutiny toward your small-mindedness...
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Sandy 2 The things you say you want will never come about with Bush

I spent a lot of time researching the policies we have been following under Bush . I took that info and combined it with my experience as a business executive and retired Army Colonel to write my book. I also included the thinking of many experts and site about 30 world noted sources. I cover 10 policy areas and at the end of my book, I ask the reader 15 questions to help them decide where we are going under the Bush policies.

Read, "Four More For George W?" if you want the truth that about President Bush and his conservative cohorts. Look at the comments of some who have read my book. Go to www.amazon.com, type in the title, Four More For George W? and look at what they have to say.

If you can not stand to learn the facts, than just listen to the sound bites of the useless campaign Ads!
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Sandy 2 The things you say you want will never come about with Bush


I know... who said I ever wanted Bush?

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In response specifically to Patriot_Flamethrower: I am a tad appalled at your remarks. As someone who has grown up knowing Col. Gene, your comments about his character are uneducated and imflammatory. As an attorney, I fully support these discussions and debates when opinions about facts are expressed. By making your arguments personal you only demean yourself. Please provide us with your fact sources and I would be more than willing to listen ("read") to your viewpoint.

Carry on, Col. I'm enjoying your Blog site!
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and how can the other half of Americans convince themselves that Kerry is really going to change all of this?So it's better to do nothing at all, right? Give change a chance and maybe you'll get it.



I AM giving change a chance, and that's why I will not vote for either party.

Change for the sake of change is a fool's errand. Especially in a time of war. The economy is in pretty good shape, the nation hasn't been attacked again since 9/11, and America's two biggest enemies are either in jail or have had their organizations largely taken down.


forgive me, but that's just horrible logic. We didn't get attacked by a foreign party under the terms of say Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, or many other presidents but I don't think that was necessarily to their credit. My God! reminds me of a Simpson episode where Lisa pulls out a rock she claims repels tigers. When her father asks how it works she replies "it doesn't work, that's the point I'm trying to make, but you don't see any tigers around do you?" to which Homer replies "Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock." I could go on and on about this, but it's too rediculous if you can't see how much error can stem from your reasoning in this comment.

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You know what really annoys me about Kerry supporters? And I think it translates into a lot of lost support for Kerry: Kerry supporters, the most vocal ones, seem to think that they're somehow smarter, more informed, more enlightened than Bush supporters.

And that's just nonsense. Is anyone here really going ot argue that I'm not informed? Not educated?

I understand why people want Kerry to win. I don't agree with their positions but I understand their point of view. It really gets on my nerves to read time and time again Kerry supporters acting like conservatives are a bunch of mindless Jesus bots or something.

So excuse me "Col's Daughter", it's your father who is writing posts impugning the character of half the population.
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And, frankly, insulting people is a poor way to advertise your book, which, frankly, is the whole point, isn't it?
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We didn't get attacked by a foreign party under the terms of say Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, or many other presidents but I don't think that was necessarily to their credit.


So the '98 WTC bombing was a hoax? Beirut was a hoax? TWA Flight was a hoax? Hmm, I guess we should eliminate those parts in History Books.

- GX
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Col: what if you had been allowed only two choices in your career; left or right? you probably wouldn't have written this blog. There is no problem with the voters, as you can see in the responses they are an Intellegent group. Given enough choices they will make the right decisions I'm sure. We should all insist on changing the structure of the debates. If we don't we will be the subject of the giggles of the two parties as we wrangle back and fourth and nothing gets solved. We have no shortage of intellegent people, Political or otherwise, We've been robbed of our choices and we should do something about it while we still can.
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Draginol, I don't think that Bush supporters are less educated, just that often they do put their personal finances before the country. And this is fine. Its just not what I think is the best choice. Also, I do believe that the least educated white people in this country will vote for Bush. The people commonly known as rednecks, or hicks, seem to be bush supporters. Also, the confederate type seem to be drawn towarads bush. And the leader of the right party is not as smart as the leader of the left. These are just my opinons, and they are based I guess on what I have seen here, and I haven't seen many rednecks, but what ever. '



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Reply #52 By: sandy2 - 10/9/2004 6:16:16 PM
Draginol, I don't think that Bush supporters are less educated, just that often they do put their personal finances before the country. And this is fine. Its just not what I think is the best choice. Also, I do believe that the least educated white people in this country will vote for Bush. The people commonly known as rednecks, or hicks, seem to be bush supporters. Also, the confederate type seem to be drawn towarads bush. And the leader of the right party is not as smart as the leader of the left. These are just my opinons, and they are based I guess on what I have seen here, and I haven't seen many rednecks, but what ever. '


What a pile of unmitigated pile of doo-doo! Talk about piegonholing someone.Just because someone is a "redneck" or a "hick" does NOT mean they are ignorant!And not ALL southerners are renecks or hicks. You know you'd go alot further if you QUIT trying to put people down!
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Sandy: People aren't putting their finances before the country, and if you would take the time to understand the conservative position you'd know that. I could just as easily say that Kerry supporters just want to keep poor people living in the projects so they won't have to worry about them moving into their neighborhoods. That wouldn't be fair, either, but it is no different than trying to equate conservatism with greed...