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Why is President Bush 'throwing' this election?

Why is President Bush 'throwing' this election?

I'm starting to get irritated at President Bush for throwing this election to John Kerry. A year and a half ago this President had the highest approval ratings in history, and now we're looking at 48%/ 48% polls showing a neck and neck race. This shouldn't even be a contest between President Bush and Kerry, and it's starting to piss me off.

The public has on tape Senator Kerry switching positions day by day over the past year, shifting with the political winds. The guy obviously will say whatever he wants to gain political power, and yet the Bush campaign has given him a free pass on this and so much more. Kerry wants to live in the past, for America to remember a 35 year old war we are desperatly trying to put behind us. Kerry has a trial lawyer as his VP canidate for heavens sake! You know why they say "When the revolution comes, lawyers will be the first to go"? Because it's true! People don't trust lawyers, yet Edwards is coming on like the second coming. What gives?

For the past two weeks, Kerry finally gets a position on Iraq. It is "We should have given sanctions the time they needed to work". Now we see that he has even come down on the wrong side of this - sanctions were NOT working, but instead they were allowing Saddam to purchase nations on the UN security council! You know, those same nations that were pushing for sanctions on Iraq to be lifted? These guys were getting rich from Saddam, and we now have documentation that Saddam was buying these officials in France, Russia, China and elsewhere, and had promised them more riches once sanctions were lifted!

You would have waited Senator Kerry? For what? To Saddam to offer to buy you out? We were at a critical point with Iraq after TWELVE YEARS of sanctions. It was either time to withdraw or remove Saddam from power. The administration gave no less than 8 seperate reasons to invade Iraq, all valid. President Bush did the only thing he could have done after 09/11 - remove Saddam. To walk away from Iraq would have been an impeachable offense knowing what we know now.

And just what about WMD's? Kerry saw the same info President Bush did and voted to give the President authority to wage war on Iraq. Thank God there are no WMD's - it was never said that Saddam ABSOLUTELY had WMD's, but that the risk was high. Just because the media has chosen a single point of the 8 given, suddenly everyone thinks its the ONLY reason Iraq was invaded. What are you people, sheep? You listen to everything Dan Rather tells you to believe?

And here's the crux of the matter - Bush is smarter than this. He's giving Kerry a free walk on these issues at every oppurtunity. Is President Bush sick? Does he no longer want the burden in these trying times? I would understand if thats the case, but if Kerry wins this election Im going to lay blame on Bush. Its irresponsible to allow the fate of this country into the hands of an aristocrat that so blatently craves power. Kerry is a creampuff with no backbone what so ever, he is as transparent as Karl Marx's ghost and he loathes the middle class. Look at his Senate voting record! His tax increases are on a 3 to 1 ratio compared to his tax cuts!

I could go on and on and on, but really this is making me sick. Bush has been given the tools to show how ignorant Kerry's foriegn policy is tomorrow night in the debates. Im a simple guy with a simple business in the heart of Texas, and even I have figured out a clear cut arguement that shred Kerry's policies.

It's so easy... why won't our President hit the ball?
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Reply #26 Top
Almost every President has had a 39% DISapproval rating at some time or another. That doesn't make him the 10th least popular president. What does?


According to my source, this is so. I will not vouch for the source, I am just telling you how it is.

Please relize that #10 is not bad out of 42, also considering how effective polling was back in those technologial years of George Washington. I don't know what you want Bakerstreet, so I give up.

Messy, Bush Sr. had the highest approval rating (89%) of any president except his son. He had this in 1991, the year he was not reelected. His son had 90% following 9/11. Nixon did not make the top 10 list, and is the only president to not make the list since 1938.
Reply #27 Top
Fine, if you want bibliographical data here it is:

Top 10 of everything, 2005, first edition. Russel Ash, Author. Beckley Alexander, Senior editor. Kolring Kindersley and Penguin Books co-publishers. (C) 2004. Page 62. Top 10 least popular presidents. Source Gallup Organization.
Reply #28 Top
Top Ten of Everything.

Then there is no explaination of how they came to that conclusion, I guess. I don't buy it, frankly. Thanks for the citation though.
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Reply #13 By: sandy2 - 10/8/2004 3:54:01 PM
Jeez Sandy, you just make this stuff up as you go along? Bush has had huge approval ratings during the last four years, and his rating now is almost identical to Reagan's and Clinton's at the end of their first term. I suggest you out of your MOUTH for a while...


Yep.. I make up everything. No.. actually I'm well read. According to the gallup organization, Bush had a 39% apporval rating in the days before september 11th.


And that is pertinent for 10/08/2004 how?
Sept 11 happened over 3 years ago. I don't see how his approval rating then aplies to today.
Reply #30 Top
drmiller: the reall point is that what sandy quoted wasn't his approval rating, it was his DISapproval rating... i.e. only 39% of people polled strongly or somewhat disapproved of Bush's service on that particular day. The APPROVAL rating was something more like 40 something percent if the linked information is accurate, and coming from the Washington Post I think you can be sure it wouldn't be lower...
Reply #31 Top
Wrong answer my friend! Halliburton is under investigation for it's accounting practices by the SEC. It has nothing to do with weapons or weapons parts sales.:


I was wrong to suggest that Halliburton was selling weapons to questionable countries (do people on these forums ever admit they're wrong? I'm new to this whole forum thing). I meant to say they've been doing business with questionable countries. And they ARE under investigation or have been under investigation for the following such practices:

Iran: Halliburton has said it does about $30 million to $40 million in oilfield service business in Iran annually through a subsidiary, Halliburton Products and Services Ltd. The company says that the subsidiary fully complies with US sanctions laws, but the matter currently is under investigation by a federal grand jury in Houston.

Bribery Investigation: U.S. and French authorities currently are investigating whether a joint venture whose partners included a Halliburton subsidiary paid bribes or kickbacks to win a $12 billion construction project in Nigeria.

Libya: In 1995, Halliburton pled guilty to criminal charges that it violated the U.S. ban on exports to Libya and said it would pay $3.81 million in fines. Those violations dated back to 1987 and 1990.
Reply #32 Top
Of course Bush had an enormously high approval rating - he was exploiting September 11th and using fear to get voters to rally around his ill-begotten presidency. Now, with the media not being as afraid of him (do you watch anything other than FOX?) and the TRUTH getting out despite the efforts of Rove and the Bushies it is easy to see how most sensible-minded people are turning away from Dubya...

All the above mentioned facts are only the most documented and egregious examples of why noone who cares about America would cast a ballot for Bush
Reply #33 Top
For Bush to be throwing the election, one would have to believe that he is competent enough to win one in the first place! You, my friend are simply regurgitating what the right-wing media is spinning at you. Bush is a failure as a President. A monkey could have got 90% approval ratings after 9/11. He has squandered all the international good will and political capital necessary to bring nations together. Everyone supported the invasion of Afghanistan. Why else did we go to Iraq, except to protect Bush's oil buddies. Almost every one of the 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia. Osama bin Laden comes from Saudi Arabia for cryin' out loud! Kerry is dead right that Bush rushed headlong into war without a plan to win the peace and you're thicker than Bush if you believe otherwise.
Reply #34 Top
"Of course Bush had an enormously high approval rating - he was exploiting September 11th and using fear to get voters to rally around his ill-begotten presidency."


Ah, so when Bush has a high approval rating it is because people are brainwashed, but when it is low then they must be wise and incredulous. In other words, when popular opinion agrees with you, they are sensible, when it doesn't., they are sheep...

Nice...
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Reply #33 By: Brian Miller (Anonymous) - 10/12/2004 4:03:17 AM
For Bush to be throwing the election, one would have to believe that he is competent enough to win one in the first place! You, my friend are simply regurgitating what the right-wing media is spinning at you. Bush is a failure as a President. A monkey could have got 90% approval ratings after 9/11. He has squandered all the international good will and political capital necessary to bring nations together. Everyone supported the invasion of Afghanistan. Why else did we go to Iraq, except to protect Bush's oil buddies. Almost every one of the 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia. Osama bin Laden comes from Saudi Arabia for cryin' out loud! Kerry is dead right that Bush rushed headlong into war without a plan to win the peace and you're thicker than Bush if you believe otherwise.


You just keep right on thinking that. Right up to Nov 3rd.
Reply #36 Top
people on these forums ever admit they're wrong? I'm new to this whole forum thing


It's very rare but I always try to do it and there are some others who do it as well. Hopefully it's a habit that will catch on.
Reply #37 Top
"Of course Bush had an enormously high approval rating - he was exploiting September 11th and using fear to get voters to rally around his ill-begotten presidency."


Ah, so when Bush has a high approval rating it is because people are brainwashed, but when it is low then they must be wise and incredulous. In other words, when popular opinion agrees with you, they are sensible, when it doesn't., they are sheep...

Nice...


It wasn't that they were brain washed. Even I was in support of our president following 9/11, giving him the benefit of the doubt. I have never felt stronger for my country than I did after that point in time. I now feel some embarrassment for the actions of my country, though I still love my country. 9/11 was not exploited, but it explains for the sudden jump in his approval ratings, and lucky for him it helped him tremendously, without it there would be no chance of him being reelected this year, and therefore the democratic candidate would be Hillary.