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Caring Conservative Housewife

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When ever liberals express an interest in giving the disadvantaged a leg-up, why do conservatives regularly presume that it is hogwash being for the unwashed who are unambitious, and completely reliant on the government, and then add that liberals are implying that conservatives have no compassion? Other than perhaps unthinking extremists, the prevailing liberal slant on things is that the business world, particularly now, is primarily concerned with the bottom line and any costs that shrink the line is bad for business. Obviously — and other than peripheral values — a corporation or even a small business abhors its share of the payroll tax, increasing minimum wage, and higher taxes. This would be logical but for the reliance business has upon the endurance and viability of consumers. It does, after all, take a village to make a business.

Still, why does a conservative of non-commercial values, necessarily side with the faithful of unchecked capitalism? Why should a housewife who is pro-life usually side with these harsh bread and butter issues? Does she not care for the economic security of the household, does she not smile on her children and take care of them so they do not feel the pressures of going without? In attending church does she not join in prayer for the children here and of the world suffering from disease and hunger? Does she not cry for the child of the ghetto shot down in a gang war?

Could it be that she also believes, because all her needs are met by her own hand and that of her spouse, that this is magically possible for others by getting off their arses? Could it be that she believes that a ghetto matriarch, trying to hold a family together, is on an even plane with her and therefore needs no assistance if this woman just had the ambition to take on another job to boost the family budget but ignoring the devastation that would have on caring for the children at home? Could it be that because this caring housewife has a spouse who earns a living wage that with gusto meets the needs of his family that all wage earners, given their willingness, are financially equipped, at least in relative terms, to do the same for their families? If her answer is a tenuous yes, could it be that this caring housewife will have to admit to C’est la Vie! — there are winners and losers for whom the latter has no village.

Copyright © 2004 Richard R. Kennedy All rights reserved. Revised: October 7, 2004.

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think I said this somewhere else.... End world poverty now - kill the poor. And their whining so-called 'liberal' sympathisers. Do it today.
Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top
But I am not going to give into Stevenadlous's premise that liberals are more "compassionate" either.
That is not my premise at all. My contention is that conservatives assume this and constantly repeat it--as you have. As for the caring housewife I tried to show that indeed she possesses parallel feelings as all of us do, but in the end--as most of us also do--draw the line in the sand. 
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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ahh, yes. In some of my posts I freely admitted that I have. in fact, been on government assistance before. I certainly never implied that it was for most of my adult life. I also admitted to being a housewife for years. And I also asked for help about someone that I felt was stalking me and posting things in my blogs. Someone that made a comment asking you to write him because he had information about me he wanted you toknow. When I replied, knowing that he was corresponding with people here and that he was watching what I wrote, I responded according to the advice I had been given. Which is what I'll do now.
I've even shown you some of my work before. Interesting.
I have also talked to your friend at length in email.


Now I'll point you to the quickest one I can find. The one where you were saying things about female writers on here.

http://stevendedalus.joeuser.com/articlecomments.asp?AID=10727&s=1
Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top
Here, I'll save you some time....

Reply By: WiseFawn Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2004
My apologies for this on your blog, stevendedalus, and I do not know if you or Mr. Wardell will actually see it, but I need to say it. Mr. Wardell, I did not handle this well. Between the frustration and stress of a situation that I was attempting to take care of, I did not do this well. Being cornered in a blog with someone that had his own agenda and with some here, was an uncomfortable and unpleasant situation. I wanted to answer questions, but needed to be vague so that I could have the proof for something I needed. Now that I have been able to prove what I needed to prove, some of the stress is gone. It was frustrating seeing your comment. I do not want people to think that I would write it is OK to sometimes need assistance, but not be able to admit it if I did. By writing in my blog that I was not on assistance and then coming here to see your first comment, The 3 left of center females are presently receiving government aid., was too frustrating.
I have had times of needing help. As I have written, I needed help for my daughter and at one time, I myself was on Social Security and SSI. On my blog front, it says that I will probably write about abuse, agoraphobia, etc. Which at some point, I would have. It may seem silly to some, but it was important to me that some people do not think that I have no integrity, that I would be on assistance, write that is OK to sometimes need assistance and not admit if I were. That mixed with the stress, made me walk away after writing my gratitude blog. But at the time that all was insisting on knowing, I had to be vague for a reason. I have an income, Mr. Wardell. I work for a small company that is attempting to branch out on the Internet, along with my businesses and my sister and I living together, I may be poor, but I'm OK. And as I said, I did not handle the comments on this blog well.

Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top
It's been quite extraordinary writing here, under the circumstances, as you know. Very bizzare indeed.I could tell by attitudes or things said the ones that had either had contact with him, or something. There were many times I wanted to shout on JU over accomplishments I was proud of, over little and big victories. But you know, Richard. I will continue to be the weird little WiseFawn, psycophant rambling on, as long as I'm allowed.
Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top
I wouldn't call it rambling, rather championing what you deeply believe in.
Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top

Earlier:

Draginol: Stevendedalus, I read your article again and I come away with the same impression - that conservatives are not as caring as liberals.

Stevendedalus: Perhaps that is partially my point, but in no way implicit is there aren’t conservatives who are just as, and exceed, in caring

You then write:

That is not my premise at all. My contention is that conservatives assume this and constantly repeat it--as you have

You outright said that part of your point was that liberals are more compassionate than conservatives. And I don't buy that at at all.

Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top

Wisefawn: But you never actually answer the questions fully.

Do you work a FULL TIME JOB right now? 40 hours a week. Be honest. Because from reading between the lines, it seems apparent that, at best, you work part time. You have, at various times, claimed to do some work for your apartment complex, do some work delivering to a flower shop or something, and other odd jobs.

I am not denigrating that. But one of the statistics I have pointed out time and time again is that MOST "poor" people don't work full time. It is not the system failing them that makes them poor, it is that they aren't working very much.

I obviously support your ability to post here. I strongly disagree with your views and I am not convinced you are totally honest in your writings, but I support your ability to spread your opinions.

Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top
I obviously support your ability to post here. I strongly disagree with your views and I am not convinced you are totally honest in your writings, but I support your ability to spread your opinions.


Thank you.

I am not convinced you are totally honest in your writings,


Really? This is no surprise to me, but for some reason, I was expecting something more, something different.

Do you work a FULL TIME JOB right now?


Go ask Marc.

Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top
You outright said that part of your point was that liberals are more compassionate than conservatives. And I don't buy that at at all.
You're right, some hearts do bleed more; nevertheless, it is not applicable to housewives--much less so at least.Republican males, particularly from the business sector, I suspect it's true.  
Reply #37 from JoeUser Forums Top

Wisefawn: Classic obfuscation.  I think it safe to say that you do not work full time presently. Which is fine until you start writing posts such as "fix it or give it back" which was one article in particular that really offended me. I'm already working 30 hours per week to pay for the government.

Stevend: I think it's easy for liberals to give the illusion of compassion because they don't tend to have to stick around to see if their advocated policies have any affect nor bear the consequences of failure.   LBJ's "Great Society" sure sounded compassionate didn't it. But with trillions spent -- trillions confiscated from conservatives mostly -- I don't think it has been very effective.

Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top
LBJ's "Great Society"
An obtacle got in the way--Vietnam. By the way liberals are not tax exempt.
Reply #39 from JoeUser Forums Top
Wow, reading this after all these months is just too funny now! Congratulations on being published!! You deserve so much recognition!!!!