Florida Voter Fraud AGAIN!!!

Florida Voter Fraud AGAIN!!! By: Ciperl Posted: Sunday, October 03, 2004 on Ciperl's Thoughts Message Board: Politics It seem that hundreds of Republican voters have now been disenfranchised in the state of Florida because of some Democrats-only voter registrations that have been taking place. This new disenfranchisement in Florida is now being investigated by the state's Election Division and the US Justice. This all happened when one of the Democratic Party fundraising organizations, ACORN, began to register new voters. Now, while I applaud anyone for getting more people registered to vote and encouraging people to get involved in the political discussion roundtable, what "ACORN" did is outright criminal. It turns out that "quality control" workers for ACORN routinely kicked out Republican voter registrations while accepting Democratic ones under the assumption that "they had already collected enough Republican voters and needed more Democratic ones." There were three boxes of Republican registrations that were tossed out, without anyone notifing the actual person that there registration was not accepted. Now there are hundreds of Rebuplican voters who are going to show up at the polls because they registered to vote at "registration booths" around town and are going to find that they will not be allowed to vote, because ACORN thought that they had collected enought Republican votes. Now my question is: What gives ACORN the right to decide who can vote and who cannot? Sounds like dirty politics to me.

Typical of a *scared* Democratic party!

I'd be interested in knowing how ACORN might have discerned the difference between a rep. voter registration card and a dem. one. I don't know if voter registration cards are standard throughout all the states, but the one here in MO doesn't include any type of box to be filled out that would show one's voting preference.

I don't know if voter registration cards are standard throughout all the states, but the one here in MO doesn't include any type of box to be filled out that would show one's voting preference.

Def

Here is the website with the form. The Answer is yes a person in Florida must check one of the boxs.

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/regtovote/webappform.pdf

Got a link? I'd be interested in seeing more about this.

There it is, box 13. Interesting. When I do my voter drive here in MO, I simply wear my Kerry button and the first question I ask when someone answers their door is, "Do you plan to vote for John Kerry this year?", if the answer is yes, then I ask if they are registered to vote, if they aren't registered, then I make sure to supply them with a card, get it filled out, then personally drop it by the county clerks office. If the answer is "no", I go to the next house.

Bush lost Florida and thereby the election in 2000, but he is still officially labeled the president. Guess he can thank the supreme court for that. I wonder if the same will happen this year.

Reply #2 By: Deference - 10/3/2004 2:31:42 PM I'd be interested in knowing how ACORN might have discerned the difference between a rep. voter registration card and a dem. one. I don't know if voter registration cards are standard throughout all the states, but the one here in MO doesn't include any type of box to be filled out that would show one's voting preference.

They have the box here in PA too.

Reply #6 By: Politically Active - 10/3/2004 3:53:54 PM Bush lost Florida and thereby the election in 2000, but he is still officially labeled the president. Guess he can thank the supreme court for that. I wonder if the same will happen this year.

You better go back and look again. There were "3" recounts and BUSH won all 3! Here's the final!:

Florida election results On election night, it quickly became clear that Florida would be a contentious state. The national television networks, through information provided them by the Voter News Service, first called Florida for Gore well in advance of the polls closing in the most heavily republican counties, then for Bush hours after all the polls had closed (leading to questions about the influence of biased national news media in the election process), then as 'too close to call'. The Voter News Service was an organization backed and supported by television networks and the Associated Press to help determine the results of presidential elections as early as possible, through early result tallies and exit polling. Due to the narrow margin of the original vote count, Florida law mandated a statewide recount. In addition, the Gore campaign requested that the votes in 3 counties be recounted by hand. Florida state law (F.S. Ch. 102.166) at the time allowed the candidate to request a manual recount by protesting the results of at least three precincts. The county canvassing board then decides whether or not to recount (F.S. Ch. 102.166 Part 4) as well as the method of the recount in those three precincts. If the board discovers an error, they are then authorized to recount the ballots (F.S. Ch. 102.166 Part 5). The canvassing board did not discover any errors in the tabulation process in the initial mandated recount. The Bush campaign sued to prevent additional recounts on the basis that no errors were found in the tabulation method until subjective measures were applied in manual recounts. This case eventually reached the United States Supreme Court, which ruled 5-4 to stop the vote count, which allowed Katherine Harris to certify the election results. This allowed Florida's electoral votes to be cast for Bush, making him the winner. Seven of the nine Justices agreed that the lack of unified standards in counting votes violated the Constitutional guarantee of equal protection, but only five agreed that there was insufficient time to impose a unified standard and that the recounts should therefore be stopped. Final certified vote for the state of Florida (25 electoral votes) Presidential Candidate Vote Total Pct Party George W. Bush (W) 2,912,790 48.850 Republican Al Gore 2,912,253 48.841 Democrat Ralph Nader 97,421 1.633 Green Patrick J. Buchanan 17,412 0.292 Reform Harry Browne 16,102 0.270 Libertarian John Hagelin 2,274 0.038 Natural Law/Reform Howard Phillips 1,378 0.023 Constitution Other 3,027 0.051 - Total 5,962,657 100.00 Source: CBS News State Results for Election 2000 (http://www.cbsnews.com/campaign2000results/state/state_fl.html)

And here's the link:
Link


Now, would you like to retract that statement?

Drmiler, where did you get this story? Please cite your source.

Reply #9 By: dabe - 10/3/2004 5:08:15 PM Drmiler, where did you get this story? Please cite your source

I did site the source!
1 Check the link.
2 look at the bottom of the quote! Just an FYI the info is from CBS! There's a link on the bottom from CBS.

Bush lost Florida and thereby the election in 2000, but he is still officially labeled the president. Guess he can thank the supreme court for that. I wonder if the same will happen this year.

Amazing how, even now, nearly 4 years later, this fiction persists. Some believers just won't let facts get in the way.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Florida Voter Fraud AGAIN!!! By: Ciperl Posted: Sunday, October 03, 2004 on Ciperl's Thoughts Message Board: Politics It seem that hundreds of Republican voters have now been disenfranchised in the state of Florida because of some Democrats-only voter registrations that have been taking place. This new disenfranchisement in Florida is now being investigated by the state's Election Division and the US Justice. This all happened when one of the Democratic Party fundraising organizations, ACORN, began to register new voters. Now, while I applaud anyone for getting more people registered to vote and encouraging people to get involved in the political discussion roundtable, what "ACORN" did is outright criminal. It turns out that "quality control" workers for ACORN routinely kicked out Republican voter registrations while accepting Democratic ones under the assumption that "they had already collected enough Republican voters and needed more Democratic ones." There were three boxes of Republican registrations that were tossed out, without anyone notifing the actual person that there registration was not accepted. Now there are hundreds of Rebuplican voters who are going to show up at the polls because they registered to vote at "registration booths" around town and are going to find that they will not be allowed to vote, because ACORN thought that they had collected enought Republican votes. Now my question is: What gives ACORN the right to decide who can vote and who cannot? Sounds like dirty politics to me.

I don't see any links.

Reply #5 By: Deference - 10/3/2004 3:24:53 PM There it is, box 13. Interesting. When I do my voter drive here in MO, I simply wear my Kerry button and the first question I ask when someone answers their door is, "Do you plan to vote for John Kerry this year?", if the answer is yes, then I ask if they are registered to vote, if they aren't registered, then I make sure to supply them with a card, get it filled out, then personally drop it by the county clerks office. If the answer is "no", I go to the next house.

If you do Dems then you have to give Reps the *same* options NOT do it is the same as throwing out a filled in card. In most states in the union what your doing is illegal. I'm not sure about MO, but in CA you'd go to jail!

XX,

you quoted the original article, which was not by drmiler. Drmiler provided the source and a link for his info about the vote tabulation (CBS News).

Reply #12 By: XX - 10/3/2004 11:27:49 PM Florida Voter Fraud AGAIN!!! By: Ciperl Posted: Sunday, October 03, 2004 on Ciperl's Thoughts Message Board: Politics It seem that hundreds of Republican voters have now been disenfranchised in the state of Florida because of some Democrats-only voter registrations that have been taking place. This new disenfranchisement in Florida is now being investigated by the state's Election Division and the US Justice. This all happened when one of the Democratic Party fundraising organizations, ACORN, began to register new voters. Now, while I applaud anyone for getting more people registered to vote and encouraging people to get involved in the political discussion roundtable, what "ACORN" did is outright criminal. It turns out that "quality control" workers for ACORN routinely kicked out Republican voter registrations while accepting Democratic ones under the assumption that "they had already collected enough Republican voters and needed more Democratic ones." There were three boxes of Republican registrations that were tossed out, without anyone notifing the actual person that there registration was not accepted. Now there are hundreds of Rebuplican voters who are going to show up at the polls because they registered to vote at "registration booths" around town and are going to find that they will not be allowed to vote, because ACORN thought that they had collected enought Republican votes. Now my question is: What gives ACORN the right to decide who can vote and who cannot? Sounds like dirty politics to me. I don't see any links.

Here's a little hint...... look for this on the page: Link
That's a link.

Ah I was looking around the original article, citahellion. Thanks for your helpful info, I found it.

drmiler, your help is as helpful as guy who tells the captain that his ship is sinking, when water level is at ankles. I do know what to look for, I was just looking at original article, not your reply. As a guy that's attending college to be computer network adminisrator, I do know something n how internet and the compter works. If I sound very blunt, it's because it's late for me.

If you do Dems then you have to give Reps the *same* options NOT do it is the same as throwing out a filled in card. In most states in the union what your doing is illegal. I'm not sure about MO, but in CA you'd go to jail!

No, not illegal, the option is always present, and I have registered a few Bush supporters (mostly friends), but when I ask who the person is voting for and they say "Bush"while staring at my Kerry button, they often don't have anything more to say to me.

Reply #16 By: XX - 10/4/2004 1:23:52 AM Ah I was looking around the original article, citahellion. Thanks for your helpful info, I found it. drmiler, your help is as helpful as guy who tells the captain that his ship is sinking, when water level is at ankles. I do know what to look for, I was just looking at original article, not your reply. As a guy that's attending college to be computer network adminisrator, I do know something n how internet and the compter works. If I sound very blunt, it's because it's late for me.

I'm sorry if my help was not all that helpful. I've worked with computers professionally for close to 12years and was a netwok administrator for 3 of them. So telling me your going to college for that is beside the point. How was I to know that you knew what to look for?

The major papers in my state Fla. did some un-official hand counts of the 2000 election and it appears that Bush did in fact win more votes than Gore. Not by much, true and of course these were not counts sanctioned by the State of Fl. Elections Sup.

And now this: Kerry had a cheat sheet for the debate! Check Drudge out on this one. It seems that as the two lads walked out on stage, well Kerry was caught by the 2nd camera pocketing or removing from his pocket this sheet. He was facing the camera head on and therefore didnt spot the one on the side. The audience wasnt able to see this little slight of hand either but the Sony Professional did, nontheless, with the exception of HONEST network reporting on FOX this sneaky little bastard got caught red handed, and this effing cheat wants to run the country???

Oh, btw, the Supreme court decision is/was 100% kosher. When a situation occurs like the 2000 election fiasco this is the legal procedure to be followed. Hey, the Liberal DemocRats use the courts to get their own way all the time, just they got beat at their own game on that one. Anyway, Bush is a shoe-in.

Finally, the GOP did something similar to what the democRats did with the voter reg. forms back when Jeb was running for 2nd term here as I recall. This is why we have to trust the machines, not the poll workers.

How was I to know that you knew what to look for?

Sorry, I were being unnecessarily blunt.

pocketing or removing from his pocket this sheet

Some of news networks now says it was a black pen.

ACORN is an idiot fringe group, like People for the American Way, GLADD, etc. Their agenda's are always to the left of Genghis Khan. Best to ignore them.

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