I wish I got to vote!

I bet the Iraqi's do as well!

The saturation of the media we are experiencing in Australia surrounding politics at the moment is nothing short of astounding. We have a federal election on October 9th, Indonesia had their election today, and of course, who could forget about the battle to end all battles, George Bush vs John Kerry in the United States of America presidential race to be decided in November.

I will vote in the October 9th election in Australia, and my decision has been made, I will be voting for the coalition – hopefully keeping John Howard and the Liberals in power. The Indonesian presidential contest has been decided with President Megawati Soekarnoputri being ousted by an ex General who quite possibly has the funniest middle name in Politics –Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, the countries 6th president.

From all opinion polls thus far, George Bush seems to be winning the race in America, and this is the news that discomforts me the most. George Bush does his job well enough – he is looking out for the interests of Americans – when those interests involve pre-emptive strikes and second rate international diplomacy, he isn’t looking out for the interests of the world, and this is why John Kerry gets my ‘vote’

As an International citizen, I hear US citizens remark – “who cares who we vote for, it’s our choice, so stay out of it!” to which I quip – “no shit you morons, practice what you preach” The simple fact of the matter is that as the worlds one and only superpower, the whole world is affected by the policies of the US government, whether it is adverse or positive, we have to place our faith in the US voting public… my faith is dwindling.

China recently had a major cabinet reshuffle, with moderate’s assuming roles of power to ensure China has a softer image in the region – China is certainly a world power, but the commentary on their government is at a minimum, simply because the domino effect of interventionalist policies are not on display and do not create such a topical issue for the worlds population.

John Kerry is well aware of the United States international perception, he is well aware there is a whole world of 5.7billion outside of the US’s shores, and whilst he has no responsibility to cater to those people, he has the depth of insight to realise that it is within America’s best interests to tone down their foreign policies, and maybe work a little with other nations who ultimately, have the same goal.

Just because Senator Kerry does not have the Jacksonian attitude American’s are so fond of, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have the best interests for the USA at heart – I sincerely believe John Kerry is the best thing for Americans – sure, cleaning up the mess from George W. will be a long and arduous task no matter who hold’s office now or in 4 years time, there is a mess there, and as long as George W. fails to acknowledge that it is a mess, rather than a ‘victory’ he is only detrimental to the long term security of the USA.

There is still some time to go for John Kerry and the Democrats to turn this election campaign around; I do know that if it were an international election, he would have won hands down though, it doesn’t count for much at the moment, but maybe it should.

BAM!!!
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You want the coalition to stay in power??? huh?? Are you for real??
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From all opinion polls thus far, George Bush seems to be winning the race in America, and this is the news that discomforts me the most. George Bush does his job well enough – he is looking out for the interests of Americans – when those interests involve pre-emptive strikes and second rate international diplomacy, he isn’t looking out for the interests of the world, and this is why John Kerry gets my ‘vote’


Excuse me, he's "our" president and as such WE are his FIRST priority NOT the rest of the world! They come second AFTER the American people! Which is why Kerry will lose! He wants to put "everyone" else first!
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Excuse me, he's "our" president and as such WE are his FIRST priority NOT the rest of the world! They come second AFTER the American people! Which is why Kerry will lose! He wants to put "everyone" else first!


This is exactly the attitude I mean... What exactly is wrong wioth considering the other 5.7billion people for just a little bit?

You want the coalition to stay in power??? huh?? Are you for real??


I certianly am my friend... lesser of two evils...

BAM!!!
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Reply #3 By: Muggaz - 9/22/2004 8:15:10 AM
Excuse me, he's "our" president and as such WE are his FIRST priority NOT the rest of the world! They come second AFTER the American people! Which is why Kerry will lose! He wants to put "everyone" else first!


This is exactly the attitude I mean... What exactly is wrong wioth considering the other 5.7billion people for just a little bit?


Not a thing wrong with that. But you seem to be missing the point entirely! He's an "elected" offical, elected by the people and as such the American people "must" be his "first" priority! How would the general populace of Australia feel if their Prime Minister put another countries needs "ahead" of his own people?
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George Bush leads a nation that gives more money in foreign aid than any other nation. I think that qualifies as considering the other 5.7 billion just a little bit.
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Bush has his own agenda and it is not for the people of the United States or for any other nation. Believe me, muggaz, there be all of these polls, but there many, many Americans rallying against Bush and his. I've never in my life time seen an election like this one. There are walks against Bush, runs against Bush, organizations popping up everywhere. I live in a neighborhood that is 99% African American and there are people knocking on our doors weekly about getting out there to vote against Bush.
Every country in the world has the right and the need to voice their concern over our leaders and our policies. If we took a vote right now in Iraq, does anyone honestly think they would be saying hell yes, I love that Bush guy and what he's done for me and mine?
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How would the general populace of Australia feel if their Prime Minister put another countries needs "ahead" of his own people?


He does - we are a member of the coalition of the willing, remember. Noone wanted to target Australia until we joined (and don't bother with the bullshit about the Bali bombing; their diaries and notes suggest that Americans were the targets, not Australians). It would be much more in Australia's interests to let the US duke it out with foreign powers and then be there to pick up the juicy contracts available because we haven't antagonised the rest of world. That Australia hasn't is a sign of either international maturity or stupidity; I'm as yet undecided on this one.
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I understand your point that a US President must look out for world interests... but don't the 5.7 billion other people have their own leaders to help them? Why does the American president have to pick up some other lazy leader's slack?

That is the thing I don't like about Kerry; he'd seek French, German, Russian, and Chinese approval before he would do anything. He'd grovel to the corrupt and fairly incompetent UN, and possibly put American interests behind international ones.
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We may be the strongest country on earth, but we are by far the only one. Our international interests cannot be served if we ignore the rest of the world. Its very easy to thing that we can get along without the rest of the world. In fact, there is only one thing that's easier, and that's loosing international support. The truth is, everyone on earth deserves protection of their liberties, not as Americans, but as people. We can't help solve humanitarian crises and further our interests abroad if we do not seek the help of other nations.
Friednly relations cost nearly nothing and are very rewarding. Maybe if Bush tried this policy, for once, he'd see how important it is to our policy that we have as many people on our side as possible.
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Reply #9 By: Politically Active - 9/22/2004 9:27:11 PM
We may be the strongest country on earth, but we are by far the only one. Our international interests cannot be served if we ignore the rest of the world. Its very easy to thing that we can get along without the rest of the world. In fact, there is only one thing that's easier, and that's loosing international support. The truth is, everyone on earth deserves protection of their liberties, not as Americans, but as people. We can't help solve humanitarian crises and further our interests abroad if we do not seek the help of other nations.
Friednly relations cost nearly nothing and are very rewarding. Maybe if Bush tried this policy, for once, he'd see how important it is to our policy that we have as many people on our side as possible.


I am NOT advocating that we ignore the rest of the world! Those words never came from my keyboard. What I said is as an "elected" offical of the American people WE should by right come first
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lesser of two evils...


??? Huh?? the lesser???Muggaz has the melbourne winter frozen some of your brain?? I am ashamed to call myself australian with this little turd as our prime minister.. flanked with abbott and costello and dweeby downer by his side..it is the laughing stock of planet earth!

I for one will be voting Green. I think the two major parties need a good kick up the butt.
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Dude, Drmiler, quite emphasizing your words with quotation marks. It makes your remarkes exceedingly difficult, not to mention annoying. Use italics or shout in ALL CAPS if you have to, but PLEASE--and that's me shouting--don't use quotation marks. Ugh.

That said, the U.S. is a U.S. president's first priority but Muggaz has every right to be concerned about our president from his own point of reference, which is not being an American citizen and is being an Australian one, especially as America has a few issues with the way it's regarded throughout the world right now.

Sheesh.

-A.
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Just to put my two cents in, the fact that the rest of the world wants Kerry for President just makes me want to vote for Bush all the more. It shows that everyone knows who will knuckle down and do what they are told. America must look out for itself first if the world wants us to continue looking out for them.
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I am ashamed to call myself australian with this little turd as our prime minister.. flanked with abbott and costello and dweeby downer by his side..it is the laughing stock of planet earth!


I dont vote for people PB - I vote for Policies.

Our international interests cannot be served if we ignore the rest of the world.


It took a few post's, but I am glad someone got it... trust me Drmiler and annegirl... it is within Amerca's best interests to contain agrevation towards it. Sure - the rest of the world has an inferiority complex when it comes to the United States, and it means nothing, but collectively, that is one heck of an inferiority complex, and that is not what is in the long term interests of the American population... then again, I am but one humble lad, and really I know nothing, I know what I see though - my eyes dont deceive me.

Thanks for your comments guys.

BAM!!!
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I dont vote for people PB - I vote for Policies


Even more reason NOT to vote for the coalition! What all of a sudden there is an election and howard has found money for Medicare and water.. Like it or not Muggaz it is the people behind the parties that make the policies.. and so it is the people we vote for.
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If I may add something, I don't agree with Bush's style of diplomacy--if you can call it that--but I disagree with Kerry's idea that we should do as we are told, listen to the UN, and go plant some flowers. Can I make this point again: Don't the other 5.7 billion people of the world have their own leaders to look out for them? Why should Bush or Kerry have to do all the work-they should only have to do some.

America has a responsibility to help the world, but it's president has a responsibility to help America too. Sometimes not listening to the world body is needed to preserve national interests.
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I wish I got to vote on Nov. 2nd! Unfortunately, that will never happen for 2 reasons: I'm Canadian and I'm under 21.

Though America has every right to control their own interests and look out for themselves, they should not be doing it in a way to damage one of their closest allies and biggest trading partners. For example, our cattle industry has been nearly destroyed due to the refusal to open the border for almost a year now since our first and only case of mad cow was found. Our beef is perfectly safe, but the border will remain closed for a long time. The United States must also respect international agreements on economic issues, such as the tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber exports, which are a clear violation of NAFTA. Though many international court cases demand the removal of the tariffs, the U.S. government won't budge. Another issue is the involvement of the U.S. in Canadian politics. Whenever a serious political candidate comes in favour of legalizing, or at least decriminalizing marijuana (right now all 3 leaders of major, Canada wide political parties (yes, even Stephen Harper)), we are threatened that if that happens, the border will slow down to a crawl. Basically, I am not asking to take away U.S. sovereignty, or give the vote to everyone in the world, including Osama, I am simply asking for the U.S. to respect international relations, especially with Canada, one of it's closest allies and largest trading partners. Beyond that, I don't care about U.S. internal issues, though I disagree with a lot of them

Oh, and if I could vote...well, I hate Ralph Nader, can not bring myself to vote for the Texecutioner, and John Kerry is really making it hard for me to vote for him by not wanting to open the border to beef, so I guess I would just write "Howard Dean" on the back of my ballot...Or "Jack Layton"--lol
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Link

An interesting opinion piece from the gaurdian/age along the same lines

BAM!!!