CrispE

Are We Sending Russia the Wrong Message?

Are We Sending Russia the Wrong Message?

OR: Hypocrisy, Hpocrisy, Thy Name is Bush

Vladmir Putin, Czar of Russia announce today sweeping measures designed to centralize his authority politically and is stating that "terrorism" is now the number 1 problem in Russia. He said "Over the 15 years of its new life, civil society in Russia hasn't really awakened," Izvestia said. "And the president has decided that in conditions demanding fast, effective, and often urgent decisions, it's better not to have such a society -- because the authorities are uncertain of the results of waking it."

One of the reasons Russia is adding $5.4 Billion to defense next year is that it feels like it is going alone in it's struggle against terrorism, mostly by Chechen rebels and their allies. The Bush Administration denies meeting with the rebels, but A few weeks ago the United States granted asylum to Ilias Akhmadov, the "foreign minister" of the Chechen separatist movement. as reported by CNN.

Why would the Bush Administration claim it has no contacts with Chechen rebels and then grant asylum to one? Simple, we want to keep Russia weak while at the same time promoting the concept that terrorism is our enemy. How do we do this? By saying we "love" freedom for all peoples (except, of course, those who oppose us, regardless of political system) and then turning around and aiding terrorism when it suits our purposes.

This is a very dangerous course to pursue for the Bush administration. We are not dealing with a country moving towards democracy in Russia but rather in the opposite direction. Putin is under pressure from within the Kremlin (remember that group?) to take dramatic steps to ensure that terrorism stops in Russia. There is some sentiment, reported in the international press that journalists in the region suspect American money and advisors are covertly supporting the rebels much as we did with the Taliban, who used to be our boys in Afghanistan.

The bigger issue is whether this is hypocrisy. Can we truly say we are interested in ending terrorism when we have such policies as do with Russia and Chechnya? Can we pick and choose like a menu at a Chinese restaurant those terrorists we will support because it furthers our aims?

What does the Bush administration really stand for?

Does ANYONE know?

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Reply #26 Top
CrispE,
just because there is a reasonable chance the different groups are aware of each other is not a good enough excuse to lump them all togather as terrorists. One group condemned the terrorism which the other group comitted. The fact that they MIGHT know each other is moot (no evidence to suggest they do work together, in fact all the evidence point to them working in seperate parts of the country). For how many decades has the US talked to Sinn Fein even though they personally know IRA terorists? Why is this acceptable, but talking to the Chechen president is not? Either you recogise democratically elected people or you don't. Can't pick and choose.

Let me clear in pointing out that Aslan Maskhadov's group are not peaceful. They are actively engaged in a war. Difference between them and Shamil Basayev's group is that they don't target civilians in other countries.

There is something wrong with sending CIA operatices to Chechnya to train people though. Any interaction here should to purely diplomatic and Russia should be made clear as to what position the US takes here.

Paul.

Reply #27 Top
Soltair:

I don't remember commenting on Sinn Fein. If I had I would have condemned U.S. involvement in that too. The problem with U.S. foreign policy in general is that it is full of this "our freedom fighters," "your terrorists" concept. This is what is going on in Chechnya.

Did you note that the Chechen rebels announced the costs of the operations? Why do you suppose they did that?

One possible reason is that it is an "in your face" insult to Putin. That is, they're saying "we're here, we're well funded, we got more things we can do." Another is "hey Putin, where do you think we got the money?"

Any takers on where you can get large sums of money on the sly and under the radar?
Reply #28 Top
CrispE,
I totally agree that any funding of miltary action against another soveign nation is wrong. I don't agree that poilitical support for those said freedom fighters is wrong though.

To clarify my view
- the US should NOT be giving any monetary, military or CIA support to ANY of the Chechnen rebel groups
- the US SHOULD be providing diplomatic support for the rights of the Chechnens to self government (support for elected president Aslan Maskhadov's group)
- the US should NOT support terrorist groups (Shamil Basayev's group) no matter what their goals

Paul.