Jesus Day

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Very very intresting:

FROM SNOPES.COM (like urban legends)/

Claim: By proclamation of Governor George W. Bush, 10 June 2000 was 'Jesus Day' in Texas.
Status: True.

Examples: [Collected on the Internet, 2000]


Throughout the world, people of all religions recognize Jesus Christ as an example of love, compassion, sacrifice and service. Reaching out to the poor, the suffering and the marginalized, he provided moral leadership that continues to inspire countless men, women and children today.
To honor his life and teachings, Christians of all races and denominations have joined together to designate June 10 as Jesus Day. As part of this celebration of unity, they are taking part in the 10th annual March for Jesus in cities throughout the Lone Star State. The march, which began in Austin in 1991, is now held in nearly 180 countries. Jesus Day challenges people to follow Christ's example by performing good works in their communities and neighborhoods. By nursing the sick, feeding the poor or volunteering in homeless shelters, everyone can play a role in making the world a better place.

I urge all Texans to answer the call to serve those in need. By volunteering their time, energy or resources to helping others, adults and youngsters follow Christ's message of love and service in thought and deed.

Therefore, I, George W. Bush, Governor of Texas, do hereby proclaim June 10, 2000, Jesus Day in Texas and urge the appropriate recognition whereof, in official recognition whereof, I hereby affix my signature this 17th day of April, 2000.




Origins: Yes, it's true. Texas Governor George W. Bush signed a memorandum on 17 April 2000 proclaiming 10 June to be 'Jesus Day' in Texas, a day that "challenges people to follow Christ's example by performing good works in their communities and neighborhoods."

The proclamation was viewable in the Governor's section of the the web site for the State of Texas, but only the last few months' proclamations are kept on the site, so this one is no longer available. Luckily, PBS has a copy housed on its site.

Note, however, that Governor Bush did not simply decide to create an arbitrary 'Jesus Day' for the State of Texas. His proclamation was issued in support of a national celebration of Jesus Day, an annual event supported by proclamations from other governors and mayors throughout America as well.

Last updated: 30 July 2000
http://www.snopes.com/religion/jesusday.htm
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/art/pop_jesusday.jpg (Copy or original memo)

Im not at all happy about that, and if my religion didn't support Jesus I would be OUTRAGED. What about you?
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
In response, reread this line......."people of all religions recognize Jesus Christ as an example of love, compassion, sacrifice and service. Reaching out to the poor, the suffering and the marginalized, he provided moral leadership that continues to inspire countless men, women and children today. "

This was not a chance to force Christianity on others, it was simply a way of responding to the example of compassion, service etc and encouraging people to continue a positive example of what we can do for others. Even though I am not Catholic, if someone decided to honor the example that Mother Teresa set, by having a day where people were encouraged to provid service for others, I would not be offended. Why? Because they are honoring her service and encouraging that, not forcing me to bow to the Pope.

GWB said..."Jesus Day challenges people to follow Christ's example by performing good works in their communities and neighborhoods. By nursing the sick, feeding the poor or volunteering in homeless shelters, everyone can play a role in making the world a better place.
I urge all Texans to answer the call to serve those in need. By volunteering their time, energy or resources to helping others, adults and youngsters follow Christ's message of love and service in thought and deed."

Sounds like he is encouraging a program that would make the world a better place, REGARDLESS of religion. He never said, go to church and listen to hypocrytical preachers. He said to "serve those in need." No qualifications were listed as to who, what or how you had to serve. Suggestions were placed that never once included worship.

I am Christian (though some naysayers like to belittle my beliefs) and I think any program that encourages people to think of someone other than themselves is a good thing.
Reply #2 from PolMach Forums Top
I totally disagree, lifehappens. I'm a Christian, very much so, passionate for Christ, but I must say, I do think it is, somewhat, forcing a religion onto people.

I mean seriously, if a governor made "Allah Day" or "Bhudda Day", we'd have some serious eyebrows raised, I guarantee you. I think "Jesus Day", to be named by a Governor, is rather wrong.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm not at all outraged. Even atheists consider Christ to be one of the great moral leaders. If the proclamation had had wordage in it that excluded other faiths, I would feel differently.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I agree with Gideon. If they had proposed a day extolling the virtues of another faith, there would not be a problem. It's not forcing anyone to do anything. People who appreciate Christ could allow the declaration of a Jesus day to inspire them, and those who don't didn't have to do anything. It would work the same way if it highlighted an inspirational figure from another faith. It's a non-issue.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top

Is it honoring Jesus the Person or Jesus the God? If it's the former, then it's no worse than honoring Dr, Martin Luther King, Jr. or George Washington. If it's the latter, then it would be a justifiably offensive to non-Christians. Same with the Buddha.

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
I mean seriously, if a governor made "Allah Day" or "Bhudda Day", we'd have some serious eyebrows raised, I guarantee you. I think "Jesus Day", to be named by a Governor, is rather wrong.


from the article....

Note, however, that Governor Bush did not simply decide to create an arbitrary 'Jesus Day' for the State of Texas. His proclamation was issued in support of a national celebration of Jesus Day, an annual event supported by proclamations from other governors and mayors throughout America as well.


According to the article, Governor Bush did not make or name Jesus Day, he supported something already in existence and supported by other governors and mayors throught America as well.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
No. His proclomation supported the creation and celebration of a national jesus day, but he created it.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #7 By: sandy2 - 9/7/2004 8:14:06 PM
No. His proclomation supported the creation and celebration of a national jesus day, but he created it.


Wrong again Sandy check the link (near bottom of page you'll find required info).
http://www.snopes.com/religion/jesusday.htm
Reply #9 from PolMach Forums Top
I'm not at all outraged. Even atheists consider Christ to be one of the great moral leaders. If the proclamation had had wordage in it that excluded other faiths, I would feel differently.


I couldn't have said it better.

The only reason I think people are angry because there is not a "Harry Potter" Day or "Free Pornography" Day.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Im not angry just, slightly upset, because of the fact that not all people consider Jesus to be Christ.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Further Drmiller I admit I was wrong, but for those of you who claim that Bush was not in support of a day for Jesus Christ the God, I post the following from the official "Jesus Christ Day" organiziation that Bush was supporting:

What is Jesus Day/March For Jesus
Jesus Day is a day of service and celebration by the Body of Christ that takes place the Saturday before Pentecost Sunday each year. Christians gather across denominational and racial lines to express their love for Jesus by serving their communities and worshipping their Lord in the streets of their cities.

Celebration

March for Jesus brings Christians of every tradition, age, and color into the streets to celebrate what Jesus has done and to ask God's blessing on our cities. March for Jesus is nothing more and nothing less than a joyous celebration of our Lord Jesus Christ. Anyone who loves Jesus is welcome to attend. March for Jesus is a heartfelt praise for Jesus and prayer for cities and nations.

http://www.jesusday.org/what.php
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
I never said he was not in support of Jesus day. BTW the actual march started in 1991, "before" he was Gov. of Texas. And besides all that , what's wrong with being in support of Jesus Day? What are you anyway? One of those left-wing, feel good, do-gooders? Not everything needs to be PC! This "country" (USA) was founded on "God". Just for starters "read" the consitution, the "Gettysburg address", and the pledge of alligence.
Reply #13 from PolMach Forums Top


I support "Bullsh*t!" Day, when we can all take the time and tell people about what Bullsh*t we have spewed about anything in our lives. Like I bullsh*tted saying I love Kerry the other day, that was load of total bull, or that I love to listen to Rush Limbaugh all day, another load of bull, or about the bull saying I support the idea of having excessive party spirit.

"B.S." Day, that should become a National Holiday.

Jesus Christ Day

Its stated as Jesus Day, not Jesus Christ Day, and that was from the first link provided at the top by yourself, now if it was Jesus Christ Day that would be a bigger difference than Jesus Day, and what about Gay Pride Day, I am not Gay but there are Gay Pride Days, is that not forceful, or African American Month, while Hispanics get a week, I mean you can go on and on, you can please some people, but you can't expect to please everybody. Everybody has the Freedom to go along with that day or not, but if you get the day off who cares if it's Buddha Day or Allah Day, it's a day off.
Reply #14 from PolMach Forums Top
Oh I forget, in my case it would be "Gnostic Gothic Occult" day.

Where you try to pry secrets from old gnostic skeletons.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
http://www.jesusday.org/what.php Go there. Bush was in favor of the "Jesus Day" organization. That is their site. They state they mean Jesus Christ. And I care.
Reply #16 from PolMach Forums Top
But does it take away the freedom for people to do other things or celebrate other religions on Jesus Day, hmmm. If on Jesus Christ Day they suppressed all other religions than that would be W...Wrong or F...F'ed Up, but the fact is as long as I am not force to be a Christian on Jesus Day or my Satanic Buddy next to me is not forced to be a Christian on Jesus Day, than your anger and worry is misplaced. While everybody celebrates Jesus Day, I will be celebrating GraveDigger Day, where we take a look into and celebrate the lives of famous Grave Diggers, and go dig them up to celebrate
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
what about Gay Pride Day, I am not Gay but there are Gay Pride Days, is that not forceful, or African American Month, while Hispanics get a week


so, if I'm not Gay, I'm not Hispanic, and I'm not African American, I should be outraged about those days too, huh?
Reply #18 from PolMach Forums Top
so, if I'm not Gay, I'm not Hispanic, and I'm not African American, I should be outraged about those days too, huh?

Should you be?

I am Hispanic, and I accept those days and are not outraged at them, they exist and I accept them, but to get outraged at a Jebus Day (son of Gawd, lives in a trailer park off I-40 right across from Big Boy's Joke) is what I am finding wrong here, if the day forced their beliefs and views on those individuals who have nothing to do with those days that would be wrong, but they don't and that's my point.

If on a Hispanic Day you had to be Hispanic, that would be wrong, but that is not the case you have the choice to celebrate or don't celebrate, and until they come down and say on Jesus Day that you have to be Christian on Jesus Day, than its an outrage misplaced.

Though I still favor Grave Diggers Day, might have something with that, hmmm.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
For the government to proclaim a Jesus Day regarding the Lord Jesus Christ would be for the government to acknowledge that it is the policy of the government to accept Lord Jesus Christ, and with that Christianity. The government does not proclaim Gay Pride day by the way. And you can't deny the fact that there are African Americans, while one can depending on their religion deny the exsistince of a Lord Jesus Christ. I am Christian by the way for all the naysayers.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #18 By: ShoZan - 9/8/2004 2:58:21 PM
so, if I'm not Gay, I'm not Hispanic, and I'm not African American, I should be outraged about those days too, huh?

Should you be?

I am Hispanic, and I accept those days and are not outraged at them, they exist and I accept them, but to get outraged at a Jebus Day (son of Gawd, lives in a trailer park off I-40 right across from Big Boy's Joke) is what I am finding wrong here, if the day forced their beliefs and views on those individuals who have nothing to do with those days that would be wrong, but they don't and that's my point.

If on a Hispanic Day you had to be Hispanic, that would be wrong, but that is not the case you have the choice to celebrate or don't celebrate, and until they come down and say on Jesus Day that you have to be Christian on Jesus Day, than its an outrage misplaced.

Though I still favor Grave Diggers Day, might have something with that, hmmm.


Sort of like "Cinco de Mayo"?
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
I am Christian by the way


In that case, you should be proud that anyone in our government is saying anything positive about the traditional Christian values that our country was founded on, when so many government officials, lawyers, and judges are doing everything they can to forget our country had anything to do with Christianity, its beliefs or values.

so, if I'm not Gay, I'm not Hispanic, and I'm not African American, I should be outraged about those days too, huh?

Should you be?

No, I shouldn't be outraged by any of these, including Jesus Day. I was being facetious.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Personally, Earth Day pisses me off.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
How many of you on this thread are Texans, and further how many were actually living in Texas on Jesus Day?

For those who qualify, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being steam coming out of your ears, and your eyes rolling back in your head, how outraged were you?

I'm a hardcore Texan and my number is 0. That's how outraged I, as a Texan, was.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
While I have nothing against "Jesus Day" in principle, we already have Christmas and Easter, both of which commemorate Jesus. I'm not sure what Jesus Day would do for us that isn't done by one of those days.

My opinion of "Jesus Day" depends on what exactly the government is going to do for this day. If government funded a Jesus March using tax dollars, or spent tax dollars promoting Jesus, then I'd actively object. But it doesn't look like they are doing that. Since they're not, I don't see why it's a big deal either way.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
Im not angry just, slightly upset, because of the fact that not all people consider Jesus to be Christ.


And Bush's proclamation in no way endorses Jesus as Christ