Zoomie

Yuan, Oooh no a friend of a friend, a personnel who had something to do with somebody a long time ago, someone donated both to the RNC and SWV, a lawyer gave legal advice to more then one person, yada, yada, yada......

By god that means George Bush is on the air calling Kerry is a liar. Ooop, got that wrong, Kerry is on the air calling people liars.

It’s that same old dance, again and again and again. Lets try and make up some great conspiracy like Bush is some great mastermind, yet lets keep calling him an idiot too. What you’re trying to do if paint Bush something he is not, because it is your only tactic to win. Kerry has more holes in his records the a block of Swiss cheese (that's why he will not release them) and his 17 year record in the Senate is so embarrassing that he will not even bring it up at his convention and he has changed sides on every issue he is trying to make people believe he will do. The only way he believes he can win is to try and make himself a victim to get a pity vote.

It is? Really? Feel free to explain. How is your life any less private than it was before Bush? Do you even know what you're talking about or are you just repeating rantings you've seen on-line.

Yes i do know what im talking about. I'm a business traveler. I fly over 100,000 miles a year. every time i go to the airport, my privacy is an issue. Every time i get where i'm going, my toolbag has been gone through, and sometimes things are missing, and there is friendly little note from the TSA. They even went as far as to take an empty novelty lighter (new) that i bought a friend. I could understand it if it was full, seeing as it is against the rules to have anything in your luggage that is filled with compressed gasses. I go to get my rental car, my record is checked again.

So don't accuse me of not knowing what i'm talking about. I think it's you that's in the dark.

And it's not like politicians don't vote for laws that they later realize are BAD ideas. That's what great about america, if a law is not working, they can get rid of it!

thatoneguyinslc: And yet people say that Bush could have done something about 9-11. With all the whining about racial profiling and the troubles with airport security, how do you think these laws would have played pre-911?

At the same time you are grumping there are other people are grumping that airline security isn't tight enough. Welcome to Democracy.

9/11 could not have been prevented. no matter who was in the oval office. and some security is definately needed. I just resent the government crawling up my ass every time i go to work. I'm an american born citizen, i've never been a criminal, i pay my taxes, and obey the law. People like me shouldn't have to jump through a bunch of hoops to make a living. And it's only going to get worse. Thank god CAPPS I I was shot down, although it is yet to be seen i think the new screening system will hardly be an improvement .

I think we are deviating a bit from the topic though.....I'm as much to blame as the next guy so....my bad!

You are either hopelessly naive or hopelessly partisan. Does ANYONE with a brain really believe that either candidate lacks control over the direction of the interest group ads? Bush is trying to have it both ways -- let the attacks do their damage, and then after a few weeks take the moral high ground in denouncing them.

Does this mean that Kerry is also responsible for the negative ads attacking Bush?

Yes i do know what im talking about. I'm a business traveler. I fly over 100,000 miles a year. every time i go to the airport, my privacy is an issue. Every time i get where i'm going, my toolbag has been gone through, and sometimes things are missing, and there is friendly little note from the TSA. They even went as far as to take an empty novelty lighter (new) that i bought a friend. I could understand it if it was full, seeing as it is against the rules to have anything in your luggage that is filled with compressed gasses. I go to get my rental car, my record is checked again. So don't accuse me of not knowing what i'm talking about. I think it's you that's in the dark.

Let me get this straight - you're blaming Bush for making airport security tighter in the post 9/11 world? And you imagine that if Kerry or Gore or some other Democrat had been President you wouldn't have had tighter security after 9/11? Good grief, now you're just getting into mindless partisanship.

It's not partisanship. Do you have to go through that kind of stuff when you go to work? No? Well i do! There has to be a way to balance it out. It's not like i expect no checks at all. Its a fact of life nowadays, but almost every single time? Thats just intrusive. You need to lay off the "partisanship" label Drag...You don't have much room to talk about mindless partisanship yourself.

why should I, as an American, give a care what someone in Belgium or France or whatever thinks of Bush?

Because you as an American, are in the whole worlds face - whether you like it or not.

When countries like America attack Iraq, and countries like Spain get bombed because they participate - should the Spanish people care who is elected in America?

Cause and effect - go around the world forcing people to be cautious of your actions, and people will be critical of your selections. I know it's not America's fault that terrorist attack indiscriminately, but when nations like Spain are attacked because of support for America, The United States would do very well to consider international perception when it comes to foreign policy

Let me pose this question to you Brad - as far as politics go, and America's social issues - how much time do you think George W. and the boys spend on foreign policy or internal issues? I would say both come under due consideration.

BAM!!!

Sorry for the hijack - I think... it was kind of on topic... a little

BAM!!!

Go Muggaz...GO!! You tell him!

"I know it's not America's fault that terrorist attack"

that says it all

there is no constitutional right to privacy

I am conservative, but I disagree, while there is no specific garauntee of this right, it is covered under the ninth amendment, concerning unenumerated rights (or rights not specifically mentioned.

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

While originally interpreted by law to mean that if it wasn't in the Bill of rights, it wasn't necessarily covered, over the last century, it has come to mean exactly the opposite, that we do have certain unalienable rights garuanteed us, although not specifically mentioned by the Constitution, including a certain amount of right to privacy.

Because America cannot survive as a single entity, when will Americans learn that there is a world beyond their shores and it is far more important? Of course, I am referring to Britain and more specifically England. England is the world's greatest nation, that is why America so slavishly imitates us in a bid to appear a "superpower".

All I have to say, it's alot damn harder to get a good fish and chips over here, than a good hamburger and burrito over across the pond in the U.K.
Coca-Cola, Nike, Reebok, Pepsi, Lucky Strike, etc. list could go on, but with both sides being partisan we need an outside voice, maybe Japan, Germany, etc. not France though because they are just as arrogant as the U.S. and Britain.
In my humble opinion both nations make up the greatest nation on this planet Earth, the U.S. and the U.K., but my question is what's up with the Royal Family, no disrespect intended, but why keep one, or why pay for one? Shouldn't the Prime Minister be enough without paying for Prince Charles Polo sessions, could save some money there. Be downright hiliarious to see the Royal Family actually work for living, hmm sounds like a good idea for a comedy show. What do you think?

wonder if the families of all the dead soldiers Moore rides on appreciates him waving the bloody shirt to further his career. Moore isn't an activist, he is P.T. Barnum, enjoying his well-earned seat in the Presidential box at the DNC. No doubt this "letter" will garner him a bit more publicity before his TWO other books come out before the election...

Thank YOU!!!!!! And AMEN!!!!

*Bush Supporters Anonymous*

Reply #14 By: thatoneguyinslc - 8/29/2004 11:47:46 AM I haven't seen Bush throw mud at anyone that served. That's because he has his pitbull Karl Rove to do it for him. Well....Him and the swifties.

Get off the Swift Boat Vets! There is no evidence linking them to Bush. On the other hand they have shown how MoveOn.org is tied into the Kerry campaign.

Ever hear of the My Lai Massacre

My Lai was a one time fluke, not the norm! And while I'm thinking about it, just how old are you? I was around when MyLai happened. Were you?

Reply #16 By: thatoneguyinslc - 8/29/2004 12:10:22 PM You just don't get it and never will. The world has a hell of a lot more respect for Kerry than they EVER will Bush 2.0.

Don't hold your breath on that one. You'll turn blue and die.

Reply #44 By: Flybynight458 - 8/29/2004 9:19:08 PM "You are either hopelessly naive or hopelessly partisan. Does ANYONE with a brain really believe that either candidate lacks control over the direction of the interest group ads? Bush is trying to have it both ways -- let the attacks do their damage, and then after a few weeks take the moral high ground in denouncing them."

It's all Bush huh? Then why is it we don't hear Kerry condemning the 527's????

Reply #38 By: Zoomie - 8/29/2004 5:01:38 PM Moore is a lifetime member of the NRA;

Where did you get this information? I am a lifetime member of the NRA and I don't recall EVER seeing his name on the members lists.

Reply #58 By: thatoneguyinslc - 8/31/2004 6:09:18 AM It's not partisanship. Do you have to go through that kind of stuff when you go to work? No? Well i do! There has to be a way to balance it out. It's not like i expect no checks at all. Its a fact of life nowadays, but almost every single time? Thats just intrusive. You need to lay off the "partisanship" label Drag...You don't have much room to talk about mindless partisanship yourself.

There is no way to balance this out without *someone* crying "FOUL"!