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Islam's 5 Pillars : Rape, Death, Misogyny, Suicide, and Hate

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Islam's 5 Pillars : Rape, Death, Misogyny, Suicide, and Hate

Religion of Peace Update

from JoeUser Forums

            There have been a recent series of articles over at LGF that have once again sent me into a rage. Lets start here where a 16 year old girl who was on “trial” in a Sharia court for pre-marital sex (a capital offense in Islamist-backwater-shitholes like Iran). At the conclusion of her trial she was hanged personally by the judge who said that she was not hanged for her offense but because “She had a sharp tongue.” Which is an unforgivable offense in Islamist society as well, she should have just been quiet (oh wait she couldn’t stay quiet as she was forced to defend herself in her trial due to being denied counsel). For those folks who don’t click links or who can’t access the LGF site itself here is an excerpt.

 

Last Sunday in northern Iran, a 16-year old girl was hanged in public for the crime of having a sharp tongue. (Hat tip: Mentat.)

On Sunday, August 15, a 16-year-old girl in the town of Neka, northern Iran, was executed. Ateqeh Sahaleh was hanged in public on Simetry Street off Rah Ahan Street at the city center.
 
In her summary trial, the teenage victim did not have any lawyer and efforts by her family to recruit a lawyer was to no avail. Ateqeh personally defended herself.


The judge personally pursued Ateqeh’s death sentence, beyond all normal procedures and finally gained the approval of the Supreme Court. After her execution Rezai said her punishment was not execution but he had her executed for her “sharp tongue”.

 

 

            Moving on…. Courtesy of Emperor Darth Misha I over at the Anti-Idiotarian Empire we have the charming story of a woman who was forced to marry her rapist to avoid “Muslim shunning”. I wont go into the full detail here as it is quite lengthy but I encourage you to go read it. I submit to you that simply being associated with a religion this vile should make you feel dirtier than an altar boy in a Boston parish after participating in “Bingo Night”.

            Rounding out this cavalcade of horror we have Muslim women using their children as human shields in the Imam Ali Shrine in Nejef (the more correct spelling and pronunciation I am told). These women have been brainwashed into allowing Muqtada Al-Sadr to use their kids as pawns in his personal grab for power. Frankly I don’t know how the Islamic states manage positive population growth with this sort of disregard for their own offspring.

            The capstone to all of this is an article that borders on the absurd. Go read this article about “the Genesis and Genius of Islam” then come back and tell me how the intellectual elite of this country got this far out of touch with reality.

            I have had it with the “Religion of Peace” and all of its adherents. Talk all you like about extremism but you are all culpable in this now. It has gone on too long for you to hide behind your denials. Fix your religion and society or pay the price.
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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top

Update : A lovely quote from an Malaysian muslim page

 

The Jews in Hollywood are training the American people for the coming war with China. You better get ready and pray you don't end up in the internment camps when the war comes ... the Jewish hollywood is the beginning. You know you mentally prepare your people before you send them to war. Check out the names of the producers and writers [of Red Corner] and you'll realized it'l all JEWS!!! Wake up Asian and WASP! Jews are building anti-Asian movement in USA. [sic]

Reply #27 from PolMach Forums Top
"There's no love lost between Semites (Palestinians included) and Arabs."

IMHO the Israel-Palestine conflict is THE key subject in the problems between the Western and the Arabic World anyway. The Palestinians (and the numerous arabic people expressing solidarity with them) feel treated unjust, to say the least, and are angry with Israel and the US as Israels major ally and protector. This is a primal source of hate against the US and what it stands for, and facilitates both active and passive support of terrorism.
I think the policy of Israels current administration is problematic and provocative. I understand the security concerns that they have, but the fence they're building will create more unrest and rejection than it contains. And as long as new settlements are built or extended at will every week, I can't see a lasting peace in the region. There is a strong religious conviction ("chosen land") on this side, too! But nobody and nothing will make the Palestinians there disappear, Israel will have to arrange themselves with their neighbours under fair conditions for both sides. Then it would be much harder to promote the anti-americanism as well.
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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think this is the last time I will ever respond to your foolishness, as I eagerly await a "filter" button...


I beg you to keep your word here BakerStreet...your comments are based always on what you think you read, nothing at all about what was actually said. If you are referring to my tring to get the peter of the site banned as divisivness, so be it, thank God, most others seem to disagree with you.
Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top

But nobody and nothing will make the Palestinians there disappear,

Joran, Syria, and Lebanon each giving some Arab land to the Palestinians would settle it quite nicely, excepting the fact that the entire "Palestine" thing is simply a stalking horse for the real objective which is for the Jews to be driven into the sea.

 

Baker and Mano - keep it at least on the issues raised in the article or the thread. Leave the inter-personal sniping for email please.

Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top
Any comments I would make have already been made, so I will keep it to--Nice post, I agree with you all the way!
Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top

IMHO the Israel-Palestine conflict is THE key subject in the problems between the Western and the Arabic World anyway. The Palestinians (and the numerous arabic people expressing solidarity with them) feel treated unjust, to say the least, and are angry with Israel and the US as Israels major ally and protector. This is a primal source of hate against the US and what it stands for, and facilitates both active and passive support of terrorism.
I think the policy of Israels current administration is problematic and provocative. I understand the security concerns that they have, but the fence they're building will create more unrest and rejection than it contains. And as long as new settlements are built or extended at will every week, I can't see a lasting peace in the region. There is a strong religious conviction ("chosen land") on this side, too! But nobody and nothing will make the Palestinians there disappear, Israel will have to arrange themselves with their neighbours under fair conditions for both sides. Then it would be much harder to promote the anti-americanism as well.

Ah yes, it's always the jews fault isn't it? cleric/judge in Iran hangs a 16 year old girl for having premarital sex. The reason? Israel. Makes sense.

Reply #32 from PolMach Forums Top
"Ah yes, it's always the jews fault isn't it?"

I didn't say that, nor did I want to express that. It's clearly not "the fault of the jews". This would only be another generalisation and I think we already had enough. I've been reading here since the beginning, I saw a lot of interesting and well done postings, a lot of rubbish and childish arguments as well (the upcoming elections seem to never leave you alone), and I thought it was time to write something by myself. I'm sorry if I went too far away from the initial post, I tried to explain why it's very problematic to set equal terrorism and Islam several posts up the page, and the mention of the Palestinians made me come back and write a bit in another direction.
Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top
Islam is, since it's inception, anti-Jewish. Proof?

The Prophet Mohammed had 800 Jews beheaded at Medina, after they surrendered and threw themselves on his mercy. From the Quran, which says: ""And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented before, And Allah has power over all things." (33:27) See http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/muhammad.html

What crime had they commited to be treated so harshly? They refused to convert. "Desire ye them that for your sakes the Jews should believe? Yet a part of them heard the word of God, and then,... perverted it." (2:70)

But the hatred of non-Muslims is not confined to Jews. The Quran says "Contract no friendships except among your own number. Others would certainly corrupt you. They desire your humiliation: their hatred is clear enough in what they say, but what their hearts conceal is even worse. . ." (3:118)

Turkey and the Armenians and Greeks for example. "Between April and October 1915, when some 1.2 million Armenians were deported from their homes by the Turkish Government and sent on a death march into the Syrian desert with no food or water. Similar was the fate of hundreds of thousands Pontian Greeks. Yet until today Turkey has yet to admit to these horrific crimes." Source: http://www.diaspora-net.org/Turkey/Armenian_Genocide.html

In 1860, as many as 70,000 Christians were slaughtered by the Druze Moslems at Mount Lebanon. For more modern events, read the open letter from Nagi N. Najjar, Director of the Lebanon Foundation for Peace, to the organization Human Rights Watch regarding the events at the Sabra and Chatilla Palestinian camps, events for which Ariel Sharon is blamed. The letter cites these events leading up to the attacks by Christian Militia against Palestinians:

* The massacre of the town of Chekka, in northern Lebanon, by Arafat forces, dozens of civilians, mostly Christians, were murdered and tortured by Arafat's hoodlums.

* In the massacre of the town of Damour, South of Beirut, dozens of Christians civilians were slaughtered, along with numerous rapes of young girls, were done by forces that came from those same Palestinian camps that you are defending.

* The massacre of the towns of Aintoura and Mtein, where groups of Palestinians murdered innocent Christian civilians solely because they were Christians .

See http://www.free-lebanon.com/LFPNews/Witnesses/witnesses.html for the complete letter.

The mass rape of black Africans in the Sudan as part of a racial cleansing policy by the Muslim Janhaweed is another example of Islamic hatred. Some of the "women" raped have been as young as eight years old. Shocking? Of course it is. But if you study the Quran you will find that the Prophet Mohammed took a six-year old bride when he was 50.

You can verify any of these postings or do a quick search on Google. In fact I encourage you to independently verify Islams attitudes to other religions as set done in the Quran and put into practice by Mohammed himself. These aren't isolated incidents, these are core beliefs.

Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top

The mass rape of black Africans in the Sudan as part of a racial cleansing policy by the Muslim Janhaweed is another example of Islamic hatred. Some of the "women" raped have been as young as eight years old.

I had an article on that a while back too although I didn't catch the 8yr old bit (for which I am somehow thankful).

Good reasearch, almost an article of it's own right there.

The Armenian Genocide is interesting in that Turkey actually uses the total absense of Armenians in Turkey as proofthat the genocide did not occur. "How can we have killed the Armenians? There are no Armenians to kill!"

Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top
Islam IS a religion of peace. The reason that many Islamists rebel, is twofold: First,there are millions of Mohammedans who feel the World is against Islam and thus they rebel and hit back at their detractors. Secondly, Israel gains so much support from the USA that Muslims feel they are being neglected and castigated. We should, however, not forget that for every rebel/bomber/Al Quaeda member/angry Muslim, there are ten in the USA, Britain and other countries who practise their religion quietly, with due deference to Allah (PBUH) and only want to live in peace and harmony!
Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top
We should, however, not forget that for every rebel/bomber/Al Quaeda member/angry Muslim, there are ten in the USA, Britain and other countries who practise their religion quietly, with due deference to Allah


I do not think the ratio of ten peaceful Muslims in the west, to every one violent Muslim in the Muslim world is quite accurate.

I am disgusted that there are actually people in England that are not C of E.
Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top
If you are referring to my tring to get the peter of the site banned as divisivness, so be it, thank God, most others seem to disagree with you.


The lack of comments on your hateful anti-Maxwellian articles would suggest otherwise.

You are a bigot, and I commend BakerStreet for speaking his wise truth, which he does without influence of Maxwellianism.
Reply #39 from JoeUser Forums Top
Of all the unmitigated, unparrelled bunch of tree hugging nonsense. 1. Muslim is flawed because it is a counterfeit version of christianity. 2. Because the people are kept ignorant of what it means to be loving and kind 3. Because Muslims do not practice the "love your enemies" mindset. I, for one, am sick to death of people pointing at fringe christians that give the faith a bad name because of their human flaws. Christianity isn't flawed.....the people that claim to be Christians and act the opposite are flawed. What kind of malfunctioning neuron would even assume to understand that in its very ESSENCE Islam is a lie based on a power grab from a middle eastern theif turned false prophet named Mohammed?
Reply #40 from JoeUser Forums Top
I do not think the ratio of ten peaceful Muslims in the west, to every one violent Muslim in the Muslim world is quite accurate.


Well, there are something like 850 million Muslims in India and Asia and add that to what ever the number is for western (and other) countries. Then compare that number to the number of extremist Muslims. I think that you will find that the ratio is actually greater than 10 to 1.
Reply #41 from JoeUser Forums Top
Good reasearch, almost an article of it's own right there.


Thank you, I will probably post such an article in the near future. BTW, and please don't take this as a plug, but I have several articles on my blog that I spent a lot of time researching, some dealing with anti-Semiticism. I am just hesitant to repeat them, although the JoeUser audience has changed.

Islam IS a religion of peace.


adnauseum, do you have any support? Links that you wish to post? Articles to reference? I am open to them.
I would say that many Muslims are peaceful people, on whom I wish salaam. But if you accept the Quran at face value ("verbatim" bein g a Latin word seems out of place to use in this context) then I would disagree with you and please see the links that I offered. You won't find the equivalent of "Blessed be the peacemakers for theirs shall be the Kingdom of Heaven."

Of course, you won't find much of that in the Old Testament either, but that is not under discussion.

The Prophet Mohammed was a man whose life is well chronicled in history. He led warriors into combat, he had multiple wives, some of whom were taken from their peoples by force. (Including a Jewish wife.) The religion that came from what he dictated, perhaps directed by the Angel Gabriel, perhaps not, was a religion that was intended to appeal to warriors. And it did and does today. It is a religion that, at its core, says "There is us and there is them and we will fight against them until there is only us." NOT a peaceful religion.

Now people often say "I know what my Holy Book says (you can fill in the blank with Torah, New Testament, Quran, whatever) but that is allegory and what I practice will be different." There are many Muslims who are peaceful. But when discussing the core values of the religion, you have to go back to the founding principles as laid out in the text and the founder of that religion.

Therefore I stand by what I said.
Reply #42 from JoeUser Forums Top

Teacher -

Christianity isn't flawed.....the people that claim to be Christians and act the opposite are flawed.

This would be approriate perhaps as a comment on an article comparing religions. This is not one of those. Note the lack of a comaprison to Christianity anywhere in my article.

 

Adnauseaum -

We should, however, not forget that for every rebel/bomber/Al Quaeda member/angry Muslim, there are ten in the USA, Britain and other countries who practise their religion quietly, with due deference to Allah (PBUH) and only want to live in peace and harmony!

It is to these people that my article speaks. It is not enough to have the live and let live attitude when it comes to your own society/populace. When you do not actively condemn through deed or at least word then you are giving your tacit approval.

 

Kupe -

please don't take this as a plug
heck I like plugs, never hesitate to link to articles of your own on related topics. It is a the best form of commentary and sensible cross promotion as well.

Reply #43 from JoeUser Forums Top
Greywar, I never insinuated that your article said anything about anything. I was responding to some of the posts such as the ones that DID compare the religions.
Reply #44 from PolMach Forums Top
Religion, as a whole, is a sick, perverted lifestyle choice. I think religious people ought to not be allowed to get married, in fact. Deplorable lifestyle choice no matter how you look at it.

Ick, I feel dirty just typing in a thread that reeks of religion.
Reply #45 from PolMach Forums Top
Hi

I don't like flame wars much but in spite of what some have said Islam is a very flawed religion that calls for the killing of non muslims...Mohammed himself was a murderer and a man full of hate and hypocrosy....

Nothing spiritual about that man..it's fashionable today to bash Christianity by people who just don't get it and prefer their own rules..there is no flaw in Christianity itself just some of the people..so flame away...someone has to maybe stop turning ye old cheek a little.

Tom:)
Reply #47 from PolMach Forums Top
vonGoethe can bite me... oh he's dead. Rotting in the ground.... but we can swap quotes all day... what is YOUR opinion?

here:

Don Hirschberg:
Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.

Richard Nixon:
"I would have made a good Pope."

Oh, and I can't resist these two by a famous fellow: "In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot ... they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine for their purpose." --- Thomas Jefferson, to Horatio Spafford, March 17, 1814
"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." --- Thomas Jefferson, from "Notes on Virginia" .
Reply #49 from JoeUser Forums Top
Dearmad, I am afraid I gave you an insightful for quoting Jefferson even though it is a hijacking of the thread.
Kuperman, post em up so we can read them. link to any comment you care to make with a note saying
here is my latest.
Baker , I hope you don't stop reading here. I know of a large number of so called "Christian " Groups that
would like to have seen the holocaust succeed. Aryan nation, Aryan Brotherhood, Identity, etc.
That does not mean that GW or I are knocking your faith or anyones faith. Heck if someone tries to stopyou
from going to church let us know, and we'll lock and load and square them away.
Reply #50 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hitler was blessed for his action by Pope Pius the 12th.


As a nonCatholic, I continue to be offended by the generalizations of Christians as Catholics. There are a good deal of Christians who are not Catholic, and, in fact, some of them STOOD up to the Nazi regime and were executed for it (see Rev. Martin Neimoller and Deitrich Bonhoeffer). Being a Christian who has followed in the tradition of the aforementioned, I do not have to apologize for thoughts and feelings that are not/have never been mine or that of any Christian whose theology I espouse.