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John Kerry: The closer we get, the more bullshit there is.

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John Kerry: The closer we get, the more bullshit there is.

Pick a card, any card.

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from JoeUser Forums
I note in the South African press that Kerry is being keelhauled again. I mean there is an election in just over two months so there have to be accusations in the Great American Political Game! So pick a card from the following:
* He went into Cambodia and committed atrocities.
* He was too scared to go into Cambodia.
* He went into Cambodia to visit Angkor Wat.
* He bribed people for his medals.
* His medals are fake.
* He let George Bush down while defending Hill 17.
* He let LBJ down by joining the army.
* He was at My Lai.
* He was near My Lai.
* He ran a drug ring in Saigon.
* He pretended to be in Nam.

See what I mean? Pick one and send it to CBS.

Fact is, John Kerrey went to Nam along with John McCain and Bob Kerrey and thousands of others. And some did bad things. On the positive side, many more were just fighting for their country. Period. They deserved their medals because they went into one very sick war--and didn't flee to Canada.

Give us a break Bushites! The problem with American politics is that if a guy is going ahead the opposition invents some bullshit to slow the support.

I think Bush is going to win for all the wrong reasons but I think too that John Kerry could do without all the inventors who rush to make up a new story.

A lot of Americans (not all), need to grow up!
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Reply #51 from JoeUser Forums Top

As you very well know, they slyly did not specify, but their implication to the American People were very clear, as any fair minded person might ascertain unless they are two I.Q. points north of a rock. Now to be fair, I'm going to ask you to prove your point on Mr. Moore. As I said, I don't bother with his films so you get to send me searching, give me some quotes where you believe Moore misled people and I'll do my very best to sort that out for you. If not, I'll consider the matter settled.


It reminds me of how Michael Moore has clear implications in his movies that are simply dishonest. Anyway, this page has a bit of stuff. There was another page that had a nice chunk of material, but I'll have to find it on here again, unless somebody else has the link.


Even if you don't bother with Michael Moore's movies, they were still made, and should still be condemned. Otherwise, Bush and the Republicans should have the same right not to acknowledge the existence of deceitful comments made by the SwiftVets, and instead, focus on the facts they presented.

Reply #52 from PolMach Forums Top
I give reference to this twice Repley 10 and 30, You just can't ignor what he says in his movies because you didn't go to see it. He uses that media more then anyother to make his point and money.

Believe me, I wasn't about to ignore anything from the films, I'll entertain those quotes too (hence, the "send me searching" part). Which part in your posts are you seeking to address? I'm willing serve as debunker on issues of fact, but I can hardly help in matters of opinion (e.g., one doesn't like his line of questioning, etc.). Finally, Moore is his own media outlet, he creates his own, he doesn't simply milk off others. I do remember him using the Academy Awards(or some self congratulatory media awards show) as his private stump, when he accepted the award for Bowling for Columbine. As for condemning Moore's films, I would if they weren't factually correct, most of F.9 / 11 is grounded in his research and sources documented in his book "Dude Where's My Country." So I'm fairly confident that there are no innacuracies, particularly since there have been no lawsuits brought by the Bush Admin. involving slander or libel or by any other group, for that matter. I've seen many people who don't care for Moore's "banny rooster" approach to interviewees or his attitude in general. I don't blame them. What facts are to be disputed, though, that is my main concern. Heck, you guys are getting me so intrigued in what might possibly be wrong, I'm probably going to have rent the doggone thing. I do know of a few things in the film that are fact and one might prove to be very interesting to you. The Patriot Act was printed up one night and voted on the next day. The over six-hundred page tome wasn't even read by our lawmakers and most didn't know what the heck they were voting for. This includes Democrats and Republicans. Only ONE (an independant from Indiana, I believe) did not sign off on it. Moore has no qualms with calling his Dem. buddies to the mat when they screw up. He's just a very, very, hardcore liberal himself.
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Reply #53 from PolMach Forums Top
Wow! Great link, and from Newsweek no less (U.S.News&World Report always seemed a little bit more conservative, so I liked to read them) but when did they hire on Isikoff and Hosenball! You've got me there, Muu. Now I really need to see the film to see what Moore screwed up on.