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Skyline_HUN
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Reply #26 February 17, 2008 4:33:58 PM
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235, you seem to enjoy attacking his ideas, but I don't see you throwing out any good ones of your own.

I can't engineer a car engine either, so therefore I cannot call my car a piece of shit?

I haven't made an $80 million Hollywood blockbuster film, so I'm no longer allowed to call a movie crap?

Hmm I didn't know Hitler or run a fascist government either, so I'm not allowed to think he was a bad guy?

Ooh, I haven't fought in a war, so I guess I can't be against it.

I've never been President, so I guess I can't make fun of Bush anymore either.

I could go on but I'll leave it at 'piss off and never use that shit argument again'.
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Reply #27 February 17, 2008 4:40:01 PM
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Do not overwrite the GameInfo directory in the game folder!!!!
There's a MOD directory at
C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire\Mods\

Just simply put the folder in there. in the game, go to the options, than MODS... select and activate.
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Reply #28 February 18, 2008 6:01:59 AM
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Looks nice especially the increased Research options and requirements.
I guess i can leave some of the modded aspects out if i just use the vanilla file for it ?!

now wheres the link to v1.0 of "Distant Stars Mod" or "Born of a Galactic Empire" ?

*cough* Birth of Federation *cough*

I like the Distant Stars name better.
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Reply #29 February 18, 2008 6:27:21 AM
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The first part of the mod sounds great but:
Some of the changes in the 1.0:- Normal self-repair removed.This is a terrible idea. The reason for self-repair is to eliminate the need to micro. Self-repair is slow enough that it makes no difference in a fight, and the entire reason it's in-game is to remove an incentive to turtle. Instead of blockading around repair stations, you can set up defensive fleets in neutral areas like Wormholes. Self-repair means that they can take care of themselves in light skirmishes.
- Support cruisers got enhanced abilities (Repair, shield recharge)Eh. Not really needed IMO, just sounds totally pointless. Sounds cool, utterly uneeded and likely unbalancing. What's the point of the TEC Akkan-class capital?
- Repair Platforms can restore shield.Between this and your ridiculous defense beef-ups, you must absolutely LOVE turtling and stalemate games.
- A new artifact which makes the owner ships to travel between planets instantly.Wow. I'd hate to see the ideas you threw out.


i have to agree with 235 here

adding these things seems very unbalanced

artifact for example are meant to give the player a small advantage
not make the one who posseses phase jump ability to wherever he wants the winner

idea about the repair platform repairing shield is a good idea

other then that i see little use of any other improvements


think about it,
75!!! seconds to charge for a jump???
insane!!!!,

my thought is u love turtling and smashing big fleets and aall that


bringing out this mod might ruing the game for the non-turtlers, since all the turtle players wil only hostthis mod


hope you give the changes a second... maybe a third or even a fourth look about what is imbalanced and what is not


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Reply #30 February 18, 2008 6:29:14 AM
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The DS 1.0 is not available... i run the final testes. It wll be downloadable in the 24 hour If you want to remove some of the features from the mod, you will be need to make another mod, then you need my permission to import things from my mod... sorry for that, but i spented nearly 100 hour so far for this mod and half of that time is only for testing to try to make the mod balanced. The instant travel artifact is removed from the project. I just forgotten to delete from the changes list, sorry. The self-repair is only removed from ships. The structures and fighters are still have the self-repair. Actually... i'am not a defensive like player, just started to hate, that in larger maps with 4-6 normal even hard AI's i can win the game without losing a Capital. Don't know... maybe i'am a good tactican. About the improved PJI: the health points of the inhibitors are reduced to 1000. Price and tactical slot need is increased.
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Reply #31 February 18, 2008 9:10:02 AM
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Mod sounded great till i saw

"Rebalance of the 3 races:
- TEC ships got heavier armor and increased HP to sustain heavy fire and to unleash the tremendous firepower of massive autocannons and heavy lasers in close range.
- ADVENT advanced shield technology grants them an advantage but with lighter armor. Main offense force in the ADVENT navy is the swarms of fighters and bombers.
- VASARI got lower HP and Shield points, better engines both sub-light and phase travel. The main weapons are the long range phase missiles which can penetrate through shields and deliver heavy damage. Mostly using Hit & Run tactics."

Seems like your a tec player and you are making tec way over powered.

They where ment to be a jack of all trade empires with econ and your making there ships into pwoer house units (are you nerfing there econ?)

While taking the vas who was ment to be a power house unit with low numbers for fleets, and turning them into a hit and run race? why? they where never ment to be played that way so why change it that way? if you want someone as hit and run advent would fit that role better since they invade while tec are off fighting vas anyway.



Also for 1.0 did you fix the AI? in .21 he will SIT in his home world and not even expand untill he can get a cap yard up and get a cap ship out, you can own 2-3 planets if a human player builds some frigs by the time the AI gets to start expanding cause of there script.
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Reply #32 February 18, 2008 10:05:13 AM
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TEC ships got more HP, less shield and there ships are the slowest. I'm addig new upgrade levels in weapon research for the other to races as well. TEC tradeing income increased, but the efficent of refineries are the same.
The vasaries not going to be hit & run race. they just got better engines and increased weapon range. sorry for not write that instead of this hit & run stuff.
I mean that rebelance thing is not going to change every value by 100% +/-, just with smaller changes.
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Reply #33 February 18, 2008 1:07:03 PM
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"bringing out this mod might ruing the game for the non-turtlers, since all the turtle players wil only hostthis mod" There's a simple solution to the problem of you not wanting to play this mod: DON'T PLAY IT. There are tons of mods being made, and they're not that difficult to make. If you don't like this one, find one you like instead of just knocking this one constantly. I almost never play TEC and I love this mod. It's pretty much the only mod I play with.
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Reply #34 February 19, 2008 2:03:13 PM
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Whiteskull86 maybe you right. The TEC is really just a group of economists and traders. I was an idiot because wanted to make them a warrior race. I played to much with TEC and because i'm a Star Trek fan, i also always want to see the humans are the superior race
Thank you, for pointed that "ERROR" of mine.
Because of this, i must to delay the release of the 1.0... sorry about that.
Now i'm going to not change the behavior of the races, just strenght the races original characteristics and differencies. The TEC become more defensive like, reduced offensive capabilities, but with powerful economy. Vasaris are aggressive conquerors and the Advent are the pillar of the impressive culture and unity.
If any of you have ideas, PLEASE... don't hasitate to tell me.
And i'm looking for testers, too.
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Reply #35 February 20, 2008 6:44:08 AM
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Whiteskull86 maybe you right. The TEC is really just a group of economists and traders. I was an idiot because wanted to make them a warrior race. I played to much with TEC and because i'm a Star Trek fan, i also always want to see the humans are the superior race Thank you, for pointed that "ERROR" of mine. Because of this, i must to delay the release of the 1.0... sorry about that.Now i'm going to not change the behavior of the races, just strenght the races original characteristics and differencies. The TEC become more defensive like, reduced offensive capabilities, but with powerful economy. Vasaris are aggressive conquerors and the Advent are the pillar of the impressive culture and unity.If any of you have ideas, PLEASE... don't hasitate to tell me.And i'm looking for testers, too.


When I found your mod here I had the same problem with it - it seemed you are trying to make TEC stronger where it is supposed to be weaker. Congratulations on taking someone else's view into account - it really takes a very mature person to listen to someone else's opinion.

I am no modder myself, nor do I have the time or energy to be one, however, I would dare make a suggestion. I think you are trying to do too much at once. If I were you, I would set 1,2,3,4... etc goals before ending up with a final MOD.

More specificaly,

1. I would first change the really important stuff - ie defensive structures (jump inhibitors, hangar defenses, defense turrets, planet shield generators, heal platforms). Why ? I've seen a ton of mods that increase fleet/capital capacity so that you can have more fronts open and defend your choke points. This, however, might not be really necessary, if you can build up strong defenses in your system that would give your planet 10-15 minutes of survival time against a decent fleet (ie 3 capitals, 10 cruisers, 20 frigates). Right now, even on a fully defended planet, the above fleet would obliterate it in 2-3 minutes. So, if you buff only defensive structures, maybe it will not be necessary to add more ships and capitals to the game. You would need to change only the attributes of the structures, not their value or tactical slots needed, since that would mess with the economy, which should come last.

2. After playtesting the defense MOD, I would add a ship cap/supply mod. Just this, I wouldn't mess with their attributes or cost. Why? Because if you end with a game where the other 7 AI/human players build 50 capitals and 2000 frigs/cruisers each, maybe you end up with a balanced game that will simply be played in slow motion. You might want to find exactly what is the perfomance limit before changing the limits to the ships.

3. Tweak the economy for each race so that they can support said limits to ships. That does not mean you have to make things easier for each race, it might mean that you could make it more difficult for them.

4. Up to now you have a solid mod. Now, you can start tweaking ships abilities and add or remove new ships - it will be easier to decide what abilities to add and buff/debuff once you know exactly how many ships of each kind each race can support and what it takes to take down those defenses - though don't make them too strong, or you would negate the defense advantage. Same goes here. Stronger is not always better in the long run for your game experience. Making capitals steamrollers that kill everything in sight doesn't mean you are going to have more fun playing with them - let alone having to defend against them.

5. Go crazy on the graphics if you want - leave it for last since most people play this game for the gameplay, not the textures on their ships, although taking some eye candy in now and then is not bad

6. Try and make one or two versions of it. I, my self for exapmple, would like to have defenses and ship limits tweaked but not ship abilities. The more options you give people, the more popular it will be.

I hope I don't sound too much like a wise guy that tells others what to do, but I would definitely try out a mod that is well structured, while I wouldnt try a mod that changed everything immediately, just to find out after 5 days of gaming that I cannot continue playing cause it turns bad in the late game.
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Reply #36 February 20, 2008 5:05:32 PM
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Thank you Dimstog. Such good ideas are always welcomed. I thinking about the same development steps that you mentioned.
It was a hard decision to drop out almost everything that i worked so hard in the last week, but this mod is makes for you guys! I almost forget this (
I'm going change nothing in the graphics. With my low end laptop i mostly using low settings. But i maded a deal with ManSh00ter, change for my repleaced sound effects he gives permission to using his graphical changes.

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Reply #37 February 20, 2008 5:28:36 PM
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HULL DAMAGE!!

Finally someone has taken notice to the ridiculous status of Hull damage and its ability to "repair" rather quickly even during battle.

I constantly would stare at the health of the ships and wonder "If hull damage repairs, why bother differentiating between shields aside from armor vs mitigation?"

Now you can actually bother to try to DAMAGE a cap ship or whatnot since it makes it vulnerable until repaired. This is a big realism boost for me, gotta tell ya, and two thumbs up to someone finally going after it.
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Reply #38 February 21, 2008 10:55:49 AM
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I want you ask someone suggestion for one of my own made model.
I maded for another mod project about 2 months ago, but that work is now paused, so thinking about to adding 1 or 2 of that models to the SINS.
The first is designated as a Heavy Cruiser. Now it's not textured.



i know... in sins ships not using turreted weapons, because the lack of animations.
Now those turrets are just for eyecandy.
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Reply #39 February 21, 2008 12:34:01 PM
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Aloha!

This is now listed on the consolidated project thread - TYVM
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Reply #40 February 21, 2008 8:22:06 PM
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Thanx alot Spartan
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Reply #41 February 22, 2008 6:12:54 PM
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Tweak the supply cap so its manageable and I'll give it a go..core concept sounds great
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Reply #42 February 23, 2008 5:50:48 AM
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What did you mean, about tweak the supply??? More or less?
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Reply #43 February 25, 2008 5:18:46 AM
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Maybe i need to further delay the MOD release. The current probrem is i want to adopt Uzii's magnificant addons in to the project. We decided, this is ain't gonna happen until the 3 new planets available from Uzii.

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Reply #44 February 25, 2008 5:28:26 AM
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A consolidated mod dealing with stuff of this nature is always best for the community methinks. If Uzii wants to work with you doing that delay it as much as needed it will only be better in the end.
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Reply #45 February 25, 2008 8:35:56 AM
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Thank brother.
I hope so. Uzii's made a marvelous job with those addons and thought they are a great part of my mod.

Another... Here's the Frigate Shipyards new repair/recharge ability.

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Reply #46 February 25, 2008 8:55:38 AM
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Not far on mine now. The 3 planets are done, the added research is done, and the bonuses are about 60% done.
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Reply #47 February 25, 2008 9:19:45 AM
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Oh man... sounds great. If i little speed up the sound replacing too, the mod will be released as scheduled.
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Reply #48 February 25, 2008 9:29:02 AM
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Uzii:

Will we see your other new planet mods released separately?
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Reply #49 February 25, 2008 9:51:57 AM
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My next update will include the 3 planets (plus the old Oceanic planet), a few new research subjects tied directly to the new planets (colonisation and population cap increase), and 25 new Bonuses (plus the old 20 from my other mod).

That will be in my new mod, but if you just want the planets, I'm sure I could knock that up for you, if you like.
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Reply #50 February 26, 2008 1:58:58 PM
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This mod looks great, nice job Skyline and Uzii, can't wait to download and play it.

Skyline, sok magyar játszik itt amúgy?
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