Note to Hillary...

... it's not your staff 'dearie', it's you, you and all you hun!

from JoeUser Forums

Borrowing a bit of Baltimore-ese for my sub title above, but mostly wanted to make the point here that as Hillary starts taking fairly desperate measures to jetison campaign management and shake up the campaign staff she's looking absolutely in the wrong direction.  Her campaign staff has absolutely nothing to do with why she's been getting trounced in the last few primaries, and why the momentum has shifted completely and totally over to Obama.  For the answer to why that has been happening, she need only go find a mirror and look into it.

Oh, yeah, sure, we can perhaps partly blame this shift in momentum (actually nearly an absolute loss of momentum for her campaign) on guffaws and slip-ups by her plain speaking hubby, dear old Bubba himself, but in the end she really has no one to blame but herself.  First, she screwed up pretty badly in her comments about LBJ that pretty much denigrated the accomplishments of MLK.  Now, don't think that I don't see some of the point she was trying to make about LBJ and what a friend he was to the civil rights agenda in this country, but what she didn't realize is that she basically galvanized an entire group of voters that her and her pandering friends had been taking for granted for the last, oh, who really knows (pretty much back to well before LBJ's time) how many elections and pretty much galvanized them over to Barrack Obama's side.

I also have this sneakin' suspicion that perhaps some other minority voters (can you say Hispanics?) started asking themselves if she could bite the Black hands that were feeding her and her party mates, would she also perhaps do the same to them?

Still, that's not entirely what has been turning people off to Hilldog.  Nah, in the end Hilldog has been turning people off on Hilldog.  She has run the most melodramatic campaign commercials in my area.  A person free-falling from a plane, parachute not opening, dramatic music about how the economy is in freefall and we need Hillary to fix the ills that are plaguing the nation.  She's also run commercials that speak of her experience.  Her experience where?  As first Beeyotch?  Ooops, sorry, don't want to be sexist here, so I'll write that as First Lady (though I don't think Lady and Hillary could be used in the same sentence in most cases).  Seriously though, what experience?  She's been a first lady for a state Governor, been a first lady for a U.S. President, tried to get an expensive socialist healthcare plan rammed down the throat of the nation when she was Bubba's first lady, and then went carpetbagging to find a place that would elect to the U.S. Senate when Bubba left the White House.

She's been a Senator for how long now?  Answer: not very (really).

She is also one of the most polarizing figures ever.  She's smug, she's snippy, she's downright shrill many times, and people from the right (my side in most cases) look at her as someone that must absolutely be stopped before she causes real harm to this nation and it's security or the financial security of pretty much every business owner and working class citizen in this country.  The right will rush to the polls to vote against her, and in reality many 'suicide voters' have been jumping across party lines in open primaries to support her because those people don't particularly wish to see Senator Barrack Obama winning the nomination (I think most people probably realize that Barrack Obama is electable, and would most likely beat whomever the nominee is from the other party).

Nope Hillary, you needn't take this out on your staff.  They've done the best they can for a flawed candidate that ass-u-me-d that she had the nomination pretty much in the bag.  Too bad for Hilldog that Barrack Obama didn't see it that way and wasn't about to just let her go without some serious competition (with very little respect, as none of them really deserved it, to the other Democrat candidates, none of whom ever really stood a chance outside of small pockets of the country).  Obama has been preaching Change and the youth of the country aren't just following him, they're helping to round up and energize others to vote for him.

He is, I hate to admit, much like the Kennedy that the remainder of the Kennedy clowns, I mean clan, have compared him to.  He seems to be full of energy, and is promising a better way, and he has people believing that he'll take us all to the promised land and deliver us all peace and prosperity (perhaps at the expense of much higher taxes on the wealthy, but who really cares about them, right?)

Just my $0.02 for the evening.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top

Well I have to say that I heart Hillary Clinton and I will be voting for her on March 4.  I have been meaning to write a post in her support but keep getting sidetracked.  I have decided that I need to be more vocal about my support. 

A couple quick points, she is tough.  She has been the target of attacks for years and she's still here.  She knows policy.  She might not get people as fired up as Obama but I think she would make a very effective leader and has more substance than style.  As far as Iraq, I think she is willing to see the big picture and not just say bring 'em all home now without considering the consequences.  The problem is to win the nomination they try to out extreme each other but it is centrists and moderates who win the general election.  I think she is definately more moderate than Obama.  She has more experience than Obama.  I think her healthcare plan will be more likely to work than Obama's.  I think her position on Iraq is stronger.  Hill's my gal. 

Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

Well I have to say that I heart Hillary Clinton

All I can say to that is if she gets elected, I'm sure she'll give you just what you deserve.  

(In many places it would be considered unwanted assault of a normally intimate nature....)

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

What I love is, she is getting beat by the same tactics Bubba used to get elected in the first place.  If her "experience" includes helping hubby get elected, she is being beaten by her own game! lol

I agree though, Hillary is her own worst enemy.   People who know Bill Clinton personally say that, even if you hate his politics, you just can't help but like the guy.  I doubt even Hillary's best friends say that about her.

 

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top

She has been the target of attacks for years and she's still here.

That is a laugh.

But on a more serious note, I dont feel sorry for her abused campaign staff.  No one of them would be working for her if they did not know who the real person was, as I dont beleive she would hire idiots (the only ones that could work for her and not know).  So if they know, why are they still there?

because they are just like her, and hope to snap up some dregs from the power table when (or now more likely if) she assumes the thrown.

I have no sympathy for her crocodile tears, or her "poor" staff.  And I am getting tired of her shrill screams that she is picked on, as if no other candidate in the history of American Politics has ever had a nasty thing said about them.

one day we will have a woman president.  But it will not be one that uses her gender as an excuse to dodge answering questions, and to whine about being "poor picked on paula".

Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well I have to say that I heart Hillary Clinton and I will be voting for her on March 4.
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Why exactly?

I read where you have a home business, and your husband is starting a business (congrats!), why would want someone like her or Obama who are not friendly to business?
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
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But on a more serious note, I dont feel sorry for her abused campaign staff. No one of them would be working for her if they did not know who the real person was, as I dont beleive she would hire idiots (the only ones that could work for her and not know). So if they know, why are they still there?
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Apparently her former campaign manager is now backing Obama. lol

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

I read where you have a home business, and your husband is starting a business (congrats!), why would want someone like her or Obama who are not friendly to business?

I would ask the same question, but... and I don't mean to belittle or denigrate Loca here, or make a personal attack at all, but I can't really figure out how to say it short of blurting it out here:  Loca has shown an apparent lack of applied logic and understanding in the political arena before, and I suspect this won't be the last time that we see an apparent conflicting action taking place.

Admittedly, I'm really not that certain of just how negative an impact Senator Obama would have on the economy were he to ascend to the level of being President Obama.  He might surprise me by bringing in some moderate or even perhaps somewhat conservative individuals to help set his fiscal policy and tax strategies and we might wind up with something that can at the very least be tolerated by the U.S. economy.  At the worst, yeah, he'll put in place policies that are well intentioned but may have a negative impact on the businesses in this country, or worse yet may chase many businesses off-shore where they can move to a friendly tax climate/situation and leave the vast majority of their employees here in the U.S. to pay the increased taxes on their own wages.

In the case of Hillary, guilt by association.  She has shown herself to be a liberal already, and I'm fairly certain we'll get the same type of administration that we had with Bubba, and then some.  She'll swing things as far left as she can and she'll put the burden on the tax base -- all of it, rich, poor, middle class, etc. -- and let it sit there come hell or high-water.

Why anyone that wants a fair break and opportunity to excel for themselves would support Hillary I'll never know.  Why my co-workers that think she's the savior for everyone and are certain that Obama is working on behalf of the vast right wing conspiracy (... in order to derail her) are supporting her and aren't supporting him, again, I'll never really know.  Emotional attachment to her I guess.

 

In the end though, I'll say again something I've been saying lately -- her (Hillary's) apparent slow meltdown isn't because she's a she.  It's entirely because she's Hillary Rodham Clinton and she is not electable to national office, especially not to the office of President of the United States.  Too polarizing, and too apparently and transparently destructive to be trusted with running this country, which is part of why Obama is surging while Hillary is sliding and will likely continue sliding.