Who Will Win Florida?

Anyone Want to Guess?

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Some updates on the race for Prez.

Actor Stephen Balwin has come out for Huckabee. He had some kind words for McCain but felt Huckabee stood for the things he believed in the most.

So the race here in Florida appears so far to be close between McCain and Huckabee which is funny because Rudy has put all of his eggs into this Palmetto State's basket.

I'm not sure so much about the Hillary/Obama saga and am trying to find the temperature here on them. So far it seems to be more talk about the Republicans than Dems around here.

From what I understand the evangelicals are torn between McCain and Huck and could be okay with almost any of the Republicans with the exception of Rudy.

South Carolina political scientist Dr. Brent Nelson says the Republican presidential race is now John McCain's to lose. He seems to hold his own with the people Huckabee gets along with.

Time will tell. The attention now is on Florida and I intend to vote in my first Florida State Primary January 29th.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top

Yeah I bet tv down there right now totally stinks.  heh

 

Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

Isn't SC the Palmetto state?  Rudy does seem to be banking on Florida, and his star is sinking.  But then we saw one Phoenix from NY already, so we may see another.

Rudy is not my #1.  But I think he would be a good and strong president, so I still like him and wish him well.  McCain is too old, and unfortunately is not a good leader.  Huckabee is too free with the tax pen for my likings.  I am still a Fred man first, and Mitt second.  But any of the leaders would be preferrable to the democrat leaders at this point.

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Isn't SC the Palmetto state?


Yes, I thought it was here...because Palmetto's are big, so I think I goofed on that. See, I'm still learning about stuff here.

Right now Romney is predicted to win here by a slim margin. I guess he's spent alot of time here. Rudy is in third. McCain is doing well here right now and is slated to vist here this week. For a time it was looking like a four way tie but Huckabee has slipped about 3 points or so. Rudy is in some polls 2nd and some third so not sure.

I'm not for Mitt (knew too many people who lived in MA) but I have to admit....to me he looks the most Presidential.



Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm thinking now that Fred Thompson has dropped out, his voters may very well switch over to Huckabee. Time will tell. I could have easily voted for Fred Thompson as well but didn't feel he would do well overall. I'm not sure if it was the media not giving him the time or if he just wasn't excited about running. He didn't have alot of get up and go.

Huckabee is having money troubles, from what I heard, and this could help give him a boost.



Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top

I'm thinking now that Fred Thompson has dropped out, his voters may very well switch over to Huckabee.

As a former (or still hoping for a draft) Thompson supporter, I am backing Romney now.

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Florida will be interesting because it will be the first Closed Primary. Democrats and Liberal independents won't be able to affect the outcome of the Republican race. Republicans and Conservative independents won't be able to affect the Democrat race. So far we really haven't gotten a true picture of who party members want to represent their parties.

It's too bad Thompson won't be there.

I'm thinking now that Fred Thompson has dropped out, his voters may very well switch over to Huckabee.
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The talk radio callers I've heard today (local and national) who backed Thompson mostly are going for Romney. There were a few switching to Huckabee and Ron Paul, but Romney was getting over 2 to 1 over anyone else. We'll see how it plays out though. I haven't made up my mind yet.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Republicans and Conservative independents won't be able to affect the Democrat race. So far we really haven't gotten a true picture of who party members want to represent their parties.
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good point Ted. I know I'll be in line for this.

There were a few switching to Huckabee and Ron Paul, but Romney was getting over 2 to 1 over anyone else. We'll see how it plays out though. I haven't made up my mind yet.
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hmmm interesting. I'm not getting the Romney connection. He's so polished yet not liked in his own state (from those I know personally). It'll be interesting who the MA people vote for. Does anyone know if the Boston Globe or Herald put their support behind Romney?
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
He's so polished yet not liked in his own state (from those I know personally).
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That's the connection! Anyone not liked in Mass, cant be all bad! ;)
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
As a former (or still hoping for a draft) Thompson supporter, I am backing Romney now.
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Yes, I finally came to support Thompson after looking at the whole candidate. I'm still undecided who I will now back and Huckabee or McCain are not even close. Rudy or Mitt are my undecided favorites. I supported Huckabee in the beginning but won't anymore. In fact if Huckabee wins the nomination I may vote Democrat before voting for Huckabee. Rudy really needs a strong showing in Florida not because of the delegates but for financial reasons (just to hang in long enough). My two cents.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yes, I finally came to support Thompson after looking at the whole candidate. I'm still undecided who I will now back and Huckabee or McCain are not even close. Rudy or Mitt are my undecided favorites. I supported Huckabee in the beginning but won't anymore. In fact if Huckabee wins the nomination I may vote Democrat before voting for Huckabee. Rudy really needs a strong showing in Florida not because of the delegates but for financial reasons (just to hang in long enough). My two cents.
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Rudy can't get a good showing, I don't think. He's been completely ignored in the other primaries, and that doesn't bode well for him. I'm afraid his will be seen as the "greatest blunder of the 2008 primaries" in two years. Of who is left, McCain is my favorite. Huckabee will initiate mass floods to the Democrat side, but I like Brother Mitt, too. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Why the crap are none of my paragraph breaks surviving the "post reply" today? I look like one of those annoying spammers who can't seem to post anything coherent.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Why the crap are none of my paragraph breaks surviving the "post reply" today?
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Same here?
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
That's the connection! Anyone not liked in Mass, cant be all bad!


you know Doc....you actually have a good point but there's one problem. My uncle, a really good guy, and not a Massborn really had alot of negative to say. He said Mitt made MA look good at the expense of the little towns and the people.

I supported Huckabee in the beginning but won't anymore


can I ask what changed your thinking?

He's been completely ignored in the other primaries,


well that's of his own doing. He's ditched the other states hoping Florida will be his salvation state.

I'm afraid his will be seen as the "greatest blunder of the 2008 primaries" in two years.


I think I agree with this. All I can say is "what was he thinking?" Here on TV he was asked a direct question by a reporter and he ignored it by dancing around it. The question had to do with running for the whole country vs just part of the country. He just blew off the question. No smart IMO.

Why the crap are none of my paragraph breaks surviving the "post reply" today? I look like one of those annoying spammers who can't seem to post anything coherent.


ya, I was wondering that myself. But SC although you can be annoying sometimes.......today wasn't the case......lol.

Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
But SC although you can be annoying sometimes.......today wasn't the case......lol.
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What can I say? I'm trying to play nice these days. ;)
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
can I ask what changed your thinking?
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His record while in Arkansas. His campaign tactics (I have a bad ad that I decided not to run but I'm gonna run it on a TV show just to show you have bad it really was). That's sounds like the junior high version of "I've got a secret about someone but I can't tell."

WHO he is changed my mind.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
well Dude, can't argue with that. If you don't like him, you don't like him. I need a bit more than personality. I need some really hard core bad issues to NOT vote for him and so far I haven't run into any. I'm a bit bothered tho if the Democrats like him. Makes me want to think about why they like him and I do as well.

The latest news is that Mitt is ahead of McCain here by about three points or so with Rudy in third and Huckabee trailing in 4th. Still pretty close tho and could be anyone's guess at the moment.

What can I say? I'm trying to play nice these days.


nice is......good!! I like it!!





Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
nice is......good!! I like it!!
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Don't expect me to agree with you very often (read: rarely), but I figure I can at least be cordial about it . . .

Besides, I've decided vitriol just isn't my color. It doesn't go well with my eyes at all . . . ;)
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top

I'm a bit bothered tho if the Democrats like him.

Yea, kind of like the kiss of death.

Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
well Dude, can't argue with that. If you don't like him, you don't like him. I need a bit more than personality. I need some really hard core bad issues to NOT vote for him and so far I haven't run into any
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I gave you one example of his character of who he is and you called it a personality flaw. He champions himself as America's Christian leader and yet pulled a stupid stunt like this. He's a hypocrite and as a result I WILL not let him off the hook. Take a look at his record as a Gov. of Arkansas. If you agree with that then that is fine. These are all character definitions.

From a personality perspective, I actually like him but I detest his actions.

Bottom line his words don't match up with his actions. Too much sugar coating it's making me sick!

Then again I've not really had a sweet tooth.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
KFC,

Recently Huckabee just said that does not believe McCain to be dishonest. McCain has just recently been shown to be dishonest on multiple fronts. In a recent ad about Romney stating that he supported a withdrawal timetable. The second being that McCain stated back in 2000 that he wouldn't stoop to low blows in politics especially when running for the highest office in the US. McCain flat out lied that the recent Immigration bill was nothing about amnesty in it. The list goes on.

Huckabee doesn't believe McCain to be dishonest?

Do you think this is a personality flaw?
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
I called everyone I know in Florida to convince them to vote for McCain and it didn't take much work They were all voting that way already. My uncle is Navy so thats no huge surprise. If conservatives think Im going to take a Mitt Romney nomination lying down they are insane. It'll be tough becoming a Democrat, but thats exactly what I would do. I wont talk everyone out of voting Democratic like I usually do and Ill join them. I wont stop there either, I might be seen screaming 'yes we can' at the next Obama rally.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
I called everyone I know in Florida to convince them to vote for McCain and it didn't take much work They were all voting that way already. My uncle is Navy so thats no huge surprise. If conservatives think Im going to take a Mitt Romney nomination lying down they are insane. It'll be tough becoming a Democrat, but thats exactly what I would do. I wont talk everyone out of voting Democratic like I usually do and Ill join them. I wont stop there either, I might be seen screaming 'yes we can' at the next Obama rally.
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Ok so you don't like Romney. We get it. But can you at least tell us why?

NOTE: I even asked you this on your post.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
Anthony:
It'll be tough becoming a Democrat
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Yeah, but if you vote McCain that's what you'll be doing. Even the New York Times (the intel department of Al Qaeda) likes that RINO.

Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
I could go on all day about why I don't like Romney.

All politicians are phony, but Romney is unlike anything Ive ever seen. His positions have been tweaked and changed so many times, I cant even keep track of it anymore. Romney is also Bush candidate. He's enjoying the support of the Cheneys, and he is using Jeb Bush's Florida apparatus. I dont want anything to do with Bush/Cheney anymore. I would rather support McCain, the only guy who stood up to Bush and Rumsfilled when they mismanaged Iraq. When the surge in Iraq began, all the Democrats lined up against McCain denouncing it as his strategy. John Edwards in full hopes that it would fail even called it the 'McCain surge.' What has Romney done lately, Fix the Olympics?