Busting Online Pediphiles

What do you think?

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Check out this link and tell me what you think. I think these guys are doing a great service to people. That's just my opinion, what's you thoughts?
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Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
im skeptical.

i know there are online pedos and i realize how dangerous they are (i helped bust a guy who was a guidance counselor at a high school whom i noticed hustling a 15 year old chick in my old chat; he was so sure he was anonymous he actually told me the name of the district for which he worked when i first called him on it ), but i get a weird feeling from this site.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

I went, and I read.  I'm not sure what to think.  I showed it to my husband (for the record, he's a cop), and he got the same feeling from it. It's a good idea, yes, and it's all legit and above board...but there's something I can't quite place my finger on with this site that makes me uneasy. 


It does, however, reinforce my decision to not let my 11 year old daughter have unsupervised internet access, or access to chat rooms - period.

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
he got the same feeling from it. It's a good idea, yes, and it's all legit and above board...but there's something I can't quite place my finger on with this site that makes me uneasy.

i dont feel quite so nuts now

Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top

i dont feel quite so nuts n


neither do i.

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
GREAT SITE.........PEDOPHILES SHOULD BE CRUSHED. ANY CAUGHT SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
I dunno about it, but so far it seems to be good.

I hope all those perverts lost er "equipment" in accidents.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
I went onto Yahoo and set up a profile for a 14 year old girl. No picture no location just the user name and age. I had 3 guys IM me as soon as I dropped into a website and the things they were saying to me and asking me were just obscene. I was wishing I could reach through the screen and chop off their equipment, if you know what I'm getting at. I'm 25 and the things they were saying they wanted to do to me just boggled my mind because they honestly thought I was 14. One guy offered to spend the night with me so he could take my virginity. I, for one, admire what they do on this website. I think anyone doing this online or otherwise deserve to be castrated. That may seem harsh but if you mess with a young child like that you deserve it.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Sorry I went off on a rant like that. I appreciate all your opinions on this. If you like the website check the forums.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top



I went onto Yahoo and set up a profile for a 14 year old girl
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I know that you want to try and do the right thing, but be very, very careful about what you do/say.  The legalities of doing that kind thing can be complicated.


I've read through a lot of the 'busts' on that site and some of them walk pretty close to the entrapment line.  All it would take would be a better than average lawyer to blow the whole thing out of the water.


Just be careful.


 

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
All I did was sit there and say yes and no to most of there questions. They brought up the sex topics all on their own. Some of them are probably pretty harmless but they are grown adults and if a 13 or 14 year old says something about sex to a 33 year old they should have the brains to say no thanks and quit talking to them.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
It boggles my mind that these are grown adults and they are told at the beginning of the conversation how old the person is. The smart thing for them to do would be to say sorry, your a little too young for me. Thanks. Bye. Don't you agree? What defense do they have to continue a conversation about sex with someone they believe to be 13-14 years old?
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top

What defense do they have to continue a conversation about sex with someone they believe to be 13-14 years old?


Because they can say they were  encouraged.  When they say "You're a little too young for me" and the person posing as the girl says "oh, but I was having such a good time"...and the conversation carries on from there......like I said, it's not going to take too shit hot of an attorney to use that and plant a seed of doubt in a jury's mind.


For the record, I'm all for for the exposure, conviction and removal from society of pedophiles.  I'm just not sure that this site is the best way to achieve that end.  Speaking from a law enforcement/investigations standpoint, I'd have to say that there's something about that site that makes me very uneasy.

Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

What defense do they have to continue a conversation about sex with someone they believe to be 13-14 years old?


Because they can say they were  encouraged.  When they say "You're a little too young for me" and the person posing as the girl says "oh, but I was having such a good time"...and the conversation carries on from there......like I said, it's not going to take too shit hot of an attorney to use that and plant a seed of doubt in a jury's mind.


For the record, I'm all for for the exposure, conviction and removal from society of pedophiles.  I'm just not sure that this site is the best way to achieve that end.  Speaking from a law enforcement/investigations standpoint, I'd have to say that there's something about that site that makes me very uneasy.

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
That is a pitiful excuse. I could understand it if it is a child encouraging another child but THESE ARE GROWN ADULTS BEING ENCOURAGED BY WHAT THEY THINK ARE CHILDREN.
Sorry, don't mean to start ranting again but that is a stupid excuse. I appreciate your way of thinking but did you know that one of these transcripts are being used in a federal court against a New York Fireman who was trying to setup a meeting with a 13/14 year old girl. He even drove past the house at one time. Some of the 'busts' proably do go a little far but these guys do have very strict guidelines and do work with police all the time to help get rid of this scum.
Like I said, I appreciate you opinion and hope that I didn't offend you at all. I just can't stand the thought of these guys messing with young kids.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

It doesn't offend me, and I read the same profile.  I don't think it's much of an excuse either...I just want to make sure you cover your ass is all. 


Just as rape victims are dragged across the coals on the stand and have their character brought into question, so too will a good defense attorney bring into question whether their client was encouraged.


I have an 11 year old girl and 2 younger boys.  I makes me nauseated to see what some of these ass wipes say and want thses kids to do, because they could be saying it to my kid.  It makes me want to see them busted, jailed...but there's a wrong way to do it and a right way.  Would you want to see an 'iffy' bust come to court and have the perpetrator walk free?  I know I wouldn't.  That's why I think that whilst this site is great in it's intentions I think that the takedown's should be left to professional police officers and negotiators.

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
I will agree that some of the busts are iffy and No i wouldn't want to see them just walk off free and clear but that is what is happening with many of them because Police departments are not actively persuing online preditors in most areas. Most places the police won't do a d**ned thing unless the kids comes forward. The problem is most of these kids are so tramatised and scared that they never come forward until it is too late to prosecute the offender. I guess I'm just hoping that maybe these people can get the police departments to pay more attention to this problem.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top

You might want to read this...


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As for PD's not doing anything...they are, trust me....it's just not publicized, and for obvious reasons. 


The statute of limitations for child 'annoyance' or molestations is being revised.  CA's statue law is being argued in the Supreme Court...decision due by June 30th.  If it's passed, it will allow the state to prosecute a 74 y/o man for a 48y/o crime.  Changes are taking place, they're just not as visible as the PJ site is.


Be aware as well, that every time you log on as a teen user and try to snag a pervert you could be compromising the work the PD and FBI are doing.  Too many people doing it is going to make the pervs gun shy and the PD's job that much harder.

Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top

Would it be that hard for somebody to impersonate somebody they hate, flirt with a child enough to land them on that site and ruin their reputation?

Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Would it be that hard for somebody to impersonate somebody they hate, flirt with a child enough to land them on that site and ruin their reputation?

not at all.

that occured to me as well.

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Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
It does, however, reinforce my decision to not let my 11 year old daughter have unsupervised internet access, or access to chat rooms - period.


Very true....especially after I checked out some of the "kids only" message boards and chat rooms on our ISP.....totally inappropriate for any child of mine....and no monitors to be seen......sad and scary.