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Business Interests Conflict with what is Best for America!

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There was a day when the interests of Big Business were more in line with what was best for America. That day is over. Today the drive for higher and higher profits by large international companies is eliminating American jobs and this country is rapidly becoming indebted to the rest of the world.

Our country is becoming dangerously dependent of foreign producers for our most basic needs. Trade agreements make it difficult for American made goods to be sold to other countries and we are allowing dangerous goods to flood our country. We do not insure that we have FAIR trade just so called Free Trade which means cheep foreign made goods can be sold freely in this country while our goods are taxed by foreign governments or currency rates are set that make our products to expensive for foreign buyers to afford.

Senator Edwards is correct- Our government polices are being directed by Big Business to help their bottom line and is corrupting our politicians! We can not maintain economic strength with everything we need made outside this country. It endangers both our economic and strategic security.
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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top
Liberals are usually the ones against a national sales tax but it's amazing how they'll favor the same thing if it's worded differently.


A National Sales tax will kill the low and middle income tax payers. It will exempt tax for the upper income people because they do not spend all their income. In fact people that are in the very top will get a bonanza because the majority of their income would not be taxed while the low and middle income workers could pay tax on MOST of their income. The national Sales tax will not work and does not consider the "ABILITY TO PAY". We need a simplified progressive Income tax that ends special interest exemptions and deductions, continue and increase the personal exemptions so it is large enough to enable low income people to live. Deductions for State and local taxes, Mortgage interest for up to two homes, charitable deductions and provisions for uncovered health and casualty losses should be continued. No lower rates for dividends, capital gains with the exception of the sale of your home and a limit on tax exempt interest! End the tax on Social Security for people with Taxable incomes below $150,000. If we END the tax loopholes, we could do away with the AMT because the rich would no longer have a way to escape paying Income Tax. This would enable the IRS to cut staff and we would not have the lost tax collections which would help solve the budget deficit!
Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top
I would also support 10% surtax on incomes above $500,000 to be used to pay down the National Debt. It would continue until the national debt was paid down to $1 Trillion Dollars. The reason for this is because a great deal of the national debt is BECAUSE of the tax cuts to the wealthy.
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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top
the unions.


you will note that i include the unions in this.


i did however neglict to include minimum wage


you see if the minimum wage doesn't go up. then prices won't go up and the unions won't have a good reason for their wage increase. and if the union members don't get a wage increase then the unions can't get a fee increase.


we already make 4 times the average wage of mexico.
Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top
you see if the minimum wage doesn't go up. then prices won't go up and the unions won't have a good reason for their wage increase. and if the union members don't get a wage increase then the unions can't get a fee increase.we already make 4 times the average wage of mexico.


Prices go up to both cover increased costs and to enhance profits. Very few were helped by the first phase of the higher minimum wage increase because most people earned MORE then the Minimum wage. Inflation is at 4.6% per the Fed and the biggest element is the increased energy costs not wages!
Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top
we already make 4 times the average wage of mexico.


The cost to live in America is a lot more then 4 times more then in Mexico. We support a child in Mexico via the Christian Children’s Fund and from the letters we receive from our child what the money we send buys in Mexico is more many times what that same money would buy in the U.S.
Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top
i was talking those who make minimum makeing 4 times the average of mexico.


i have no idea how our average compares to mexico. not too sure it can be compared
Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: danielostPosted: Sunday, December 16, 2007i was talking those who make minimum makeing 4 times the average of mexico. i have no idea how our average compares to mexico. not too sure it can be compared


What is the relevance to living costs in the U.S. or this Blog?
Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top

CUT WHAT PROGRAMS? AND BY HOW MUCH? Statements like you make are USELESS to find a solution to our budget problems!
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There are a lot of programs we could cut. I have explained this, in some detail, previously.  If you do not remember these discussions then perhaps you should see a doctor.

Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top

I would also support 10% surtax on incomes above $500,000 to be used to pay down the National Debt. It would continue until the national debt was paid down to $1 Trillion Dollars. The reason for this is because a great deal of the national debt is BECAUSE of the tax cuts to the wealthy.
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Why should I have to pay extra to pay down a debt that was created largely because we spend ridiculous amounts of money on individuals who don't care for themselves.

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What exactly would my family be getting in return for this increased taxes?  The government is a service provider. What additional service does it plan to render in return for your proposed extra cost?

Moreover, if you increase my expenses by the amount you propose, I would have to lay off 2 or 3 employees. How does this help society?  Do the paraistes of our society really deserve my family's money more so than people who are willing to work and create opportunity for others?

Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top

That action is what is harming American Workers and will undermine this country by eliminating all manufacturing in this continues like it has been during the past 20 years! When everyone is left with service jobs paying $10-12 per hour, no one will be able to afford to live!
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Why should I care about the fate of "American" workers? Are you a racist? Are Americans somehow superior to people in China or India or Mexico?

You claim to send money to a child in Mexico directly. Why is it okay for you to do that but it isn't okay for companies to do the same -- and get something tangible in return?

Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top
You claim to send money to a child in Mexico directly. Why is it okay for you to do that but it isn't okay for companies to do the same -- and get something tangible in return?
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Touche.
Reply #37 from JoeUser Forums Top
by the way col.


i am on disability and i make 4 times what the mexican average is or at least was 5 years ago.
Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: danielostPosted: Sunday, December 16, 2007by the way col.i am on disability and i make 4 times what the mexican average is or at least was 5 years ago.


SO WHAT?
Reply #39 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: FrogboyPosted: Sunday, December 16, 2007
That action is what is harming American Workers and will undermine this country by eliminating all manufacturing in this continues like it has been during the past 20 years! When everyone is left with service jobs paying $10-12 per hour, no one will be able to afford to live!
Why should I care about the fate of "American" workers? Are you a racist? Are Americans somehow superior to people in China or India or Mexico?


Because they are the backbone of our country you IDIOT!
You claim to send money to a child in Mexico directly. Why is it okay for you to do that but it isn't okay for companies to do the same -- and get something tangible in return?




NO I send it via the Christian Children's Fund!
Reply #40 from JoeUser Forums Top
payroll no withholding 6.00 an hour minimum for now i think.


Your Pay Check Results
Weekly Gross Pay
$461.54
Federal Withholding
$54.00
Social Security
$28.62
Medicare
$6.69
Arizona
$0.00

Net Pay
$372.23

Calculation Based On
Tax Year
2007
Gross Pay
$24,000.00
Pay Frequency
Weekly
Federal Filing Status
Single
# of Federal Exemptions
0
Additional Federal W/H
$0.00
State
Arizona
% of Federal
0% Exempt
Additional State W/H
$0.00

Reply #41 from JoeUser Forums Top
Weekly Gross Pay
$538.46
Federal Withholding
$66.00
Social Security
$33.38
Medicare
$7.81
Arizona
$0.00

Net Pay
$431.27

Calculation Based On
Tax Year
2007
Gross Pay
$28,000.00
Pay Frequency
Weekly
Federal Filing Status
Single
# of Federal Exemptions
0
Additional Federal W/H
$0.00
State
Arizona
% of Federal
0% Exempt



Net Pay
$372.23
Net Pay
$431.27
Reply #42 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: FrogboyPosted: Sunday, December 16, 2007
I would also support 10% surtax on incomes above $500,000 to be used to pay down the National Debt. It would continue until the national debt was paid down to $1 Trillion Dollars. The reason for this is because a great deal of the national debt is BECAUSE of the tax cuts to the wealthy.
Why should I have to pay extra to pay down a debt that was created largely because we spend ridiculous amounts of money on individuals who don't care for themselves.


If you are among the people making that amount you received tax cuts that you should not have received which created much of the Debt. There was NO Surplus to give back to the wealthy so the Bush tax cuts created the debt just like Reagan did. Between those two they added $7 of the $9 Trillion of the debt we have today by giving tax cuts to the wealthy!! When the debt is repaid we can end the surtax on the very wealthy.
Reply #43 from JoeUser Forums Top
just like Reagan did.
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reagan did not make debt. he uncovered it. the democrats had been hiding it by printing more and more money to cover the debt. and i know that clinton was hiding a lot of his too.
Reply #44 from JoeUser Forums Top

Because they are the backbone of our country you IDIOT!
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Are you really this incapable of carrying on a conversation without resorting to name-calling like this?

I mean, who is really the idiot here? The person who disagrees with your opinion or the person who calls the owner of the site names like this?

I think to make my point, I'll remove your posting priviledges for a day.

But to address the point you seem to be attempting to make:

If the American workers in question are the backbone of our country but American companies are able to do without them, then they aren't very much of a backbone are they?

Reply #45 from JoeUser Forums Top

Your refusal to acknowledge the kinds of things the Comptroller General has documented will not make them go away. They are REAL and will require a major increase in the tax revenue to deal with them in the NEAR future. We also are paying almost $500 Billion Dollars EVERY YEAR in Interest because of the $9 Trillion Dollars of Debt. That too will not go away UNTIL we REPAY that debt!
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OFF topic! Go back to the end of the line!

Sorry, I have no appetite for red herring, Mao!
Reply #46 from JoeUser Forums Top

You claim to send money to a child in Mexico directly. Why is it okay for you to do that but it isn't okay for companies to do the same -- and get something tangible in return?




NO I send it via the Christian Children's Fund!
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So why are you supporting an organization that sends money to non-Americans but you object to other organizations that do the same thing?

Reply #47 from JoeUser Forums Top

If you are among the people making that amount you received tax cuts that you should not have received which created much of the Debt. There was NO Surplus to give back to the wealthy so the Bush tax cuts created the debt just like Reagan did. Between those two they added $7 of the $9 Trillion of the debt we have today by giving tax cuts to the wealthy!! When the debt is repaid we can end the surtax on the very wealthy.
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How is any of this relevant to what I said?

Why should the wealthiest Americans shoulder such a disproportionate burden to pay off the debt when most of the debt was created from programs for individuals.

What legal right does one citizen have to the property of another?

Reply #48 from JoeUser Forums Top
frogboy you shouldn't block him. he is the only one everyone is laughing at. even those who agree with him are laughing at him.
Reply #49 from JoeUser Forums Top

I'll let him back in tomorrow.

I'm going to start doing the same to others who routinely name-call others. When we launch JU2, it'll be an end of the flaming of each other on this site.

Reply #50 from JoeUser Forums Top
When we launch JU2, it'll be an end of the flaming of each other on this site.
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Aw, Shucks. And I was havin' so much fun.

OK, I can live with that. ;)