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GOP Senators Stop Funding For OUR Troops

GOP Senators Stop Funding For OUR Troops



The House approved $50 Billion for the Iraq War and Senate GOP members prevented that bill from coming to a vote. It is now clear what is stopping the Iraq War Funding are the GOP members of Congress and George W. Bush. I would suggest the Defense Secretary address his comments to them.

If our troops do not have what they need it is clearly because of the GOP and President Bush. I wonder how they will justify their actions?
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Gene still has no grasp of how the Constitutional Separation of Powers actually works. He seems to think that the Checks and Balances part should be scrapped, allowing 3 fully independent branches of government to operate without regard to or influence by the others. The Founders created the electoral system and those cross-checks and balances intentionally, with people like Gene, a proponent of simple majority rule, in mind.
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Reply | | DeleteReply By: DaiwaPosted: Tuesday, November 20, 2007Gene still has no grasp of how the Constitutional Separation of Powers actually works. He seems to think that the Checks and Balances part should be scrapped, allowing 3 fully independent branches of government to operate without regard to or influence by the others. The Founders created the electoral system and those cross-checks and balances intentionally, with people like Gene, a proponent of simple majority rule, in mind.


Let’s see - The Constitution says that Congress must declare war. Congress sets the spending. Congress did not declare war on Iraq. When Congress sets the spending for Iraq, S-CHIP or other areas of the government like the public works bill Bush insists that they must pass what he wants. Where does it say that? It is Bush that does not understand the separation of powers. He thinks Congress is there to Rubber Stamp what he wants and in most areas that is what they did for the first six years of his administration. Bush wants Congress to fund the Iraq war the way Bush wants it funded not the way Congress decided it will be funded. He wants the S-Chip funded like Bush wants not as Congress wants.
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The UN said we should NOT invade Iraq!


we do not answer to the un.


United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq


what does that say to you

that we are to use rubber band guns
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He thinks Congress is there to Rubber Stamp what he wants and in most areas that is what they did for the first six years of his administration. Bush wants Congress to fund the Iraq war the way Bush wants it funded not the way Congress decided it will be funded. He wants the S-Chip funded like Bush wants not as Congress wants.


You can be so dense. Once again, the Constitution itself has the remedy. Congress apparently doesn't "want" those things as much as you do.

Further, Congress passed specific legislation authorizing the US to do exactly what it did. If you have a beef at all, it is with Congress, not Bush.
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Reply By: danielostPosted: Tuesday, November 20, 2007The UN said we should NOT invade Iraq!we do not answer to the un.


You can not justify invading Iraq to enforce UM Resolutions that the UN did not ask us to enforce and when the UN was OPPOSED to our invasion!
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Reply By: DaiwaPosted: Tuesday, November 20, 2007He thinks Congress is there to Rubber Stamp what he wants and in most areas that is what they did for the first six years of his administration. Bush wants Congress to fund the Iraq war the way Bush wants it funded not the way Congress decided it will be funded. He wants the S-Chip funded like Bush wants not as Congress wants.You can be so dense. Once again, the Constitution itself has the remedy. Congress apparently doesn't "want" those things as much as you do.Further, Congress passed specific legislation authorizing the US to do exactly what it did. If you have a beef at all, it is with Congress, not Bush.


Then WHY when Congress passes the S-Clip legislation should Bush try and stop the will of Congress. WHY when Congress passes funding for Iraq that Bush does not like WHY should Bush attempt to change the will of Congress. Congress wants the S-Chip. Congress wants an end to the war which is reflected in the war funding. Bush is not the decider here and that is the fact. It is time for Congress to use the power it has under the Constitution and tell Bush this is what we will spend and how the money will be spent. We have heard what you want and have decided to go a different way as the Constitution gives Congress to power to do. If you Veto our funding it will be YOU that prevents the money from being available to insure the vital functions of government are available to our country!
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Convenient cover for the devious designs of the Dems who are trying to slip into those bills things that a majority of us don't "want" - thank goodness we have a President willing to call their bluff.

The majority don't want to subsidize health care for "kids" up to 25 years old, from families making up to $80k/yr. If you're so keen on Congress doing "what the people want" why aren't you screaming bloody murder about the Dems duplicity and dishonesty?

If the Congress wants an end to the war, let them defund it, period. Not fund it but only on condition of a withdrawal date set by Congress, something it lacks Constitutional authority to do. Once again, why aren't you screaming bloody murder about the Dems attempts at subverting the Constitution you hold so dear?
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ColGene: The only thing Congress can do is either declare war or vote it down. Therefore, Congress DID declare war. The fact they were too spineless to use the term "war" is irrelevant.

Now that we are in a war, duly asked for by the President, and declared by Congress, the only check and balance available to congress is to decide whether or not to continue funding it.

There are NO provisions in the Constitution authorizing Congress to decide strategic, tactical or technical use of the revenue authorized, the troops, officers, equipment or supplies. For them to attempt to do so is showing their contempt for the Constition.

Also. The Ceasefire of 91, signed by the US and Iraq was NOT a UN document. Nowhere on the document is it signed by anyone representing the UN. The UN did pass several resolutions backing it, but the resolutions themselves are the only thing that is UN.

If you ask me, the whole ceasefire was a mistake in the first place. It allowed Hussein to claim victory and elevated his stature in the Arab world. Every time he snubbed his nose at the Ceasefire, it weakened the US's position.

The UN turned out to be nothing more than a henchman of Hussein through the 90s. They approved more "oil for food" money (which as we see, didn't go to food and medical supplies like it was supposed to), then turned around and accepted Hussein's blood money and kept looking the other way.

The fact you defend Hussein and side with him against the United States of America tells me all I need to know about what kind of Officer you were and piss poor excuse for a man you are.
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Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Tuesday, November 20, 2007ColGene: The only thing Congress can do is either declare war or vote it down. Therefore, Congress DID declare war. The fact they were too spineless to use the term "war" is irrelevant.


Without saying we declared WAR there is NO declaration of war and that is not irrelevant. It is people like you that are IRRELEVANT.
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There are NO provisions in the Constitution authorizing Congress to decide strategic, tactical or technical use of the revenue authorized, the troops, officers, equipment or supplies. For them to attempt to do so is showing their contempt for the Constition.


Congress has the power to limit how money can be spent. All they have to do is phase out the funding for combat operations in Iraq. That does not put the troops in danger because Bush would know in advance just how long he could continue military operations with the funding Congress provided. If Bush were to ignore the terms Congress passed and ran out of money before removing our troops, HE would be placing our military in danger. Then he could be removed from office ASAP!
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Reply By: ParaTed2k


The fact you defend Hussein and side with him against the United States of America tells me all I need to know about what kind of Officer you were and piss poor excuse for a man you are.


YOU are a lying IDIOT. NEVER did you see me defend Saddam Hussein. I have always acknowledged he was a brutal dictator. That is not the issue-- The issue is that he was no danger to our country and we should NEVER have invaded Iraq just like Powell, Armitage and Baker advised Bush. As to my performance as an officer, you know NOTHING about my 30 years of service. If you know anything about the military you would know an officer does not become a Distinguished Military Graduate (unlike Bush who was handed his commission because of Daddy), receive the Army Commendation Medal and the Meritorious Service Medal twice without good reason. No officer is promoted to Colonel in 19 years or selected for the Army war College or nominated for promotion to General Officer that has not done an outstanding job over an extended period of time. No officer that has not done an exemplary job receives OER ratings that say out of 100 officers he is # 1!

These evaluations and awards were the result of MANY senior officer observations and evaluations. It was not because my Daddy had contacts within the military or senior government offices. YOU are a despicable person that supports a Commander-in-Chief that is responsible for the death and injury of thousands of brave American Military. You and Bush deserve each other!
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congress like you are cowards. and yes this includes the gop since they were in charge at the time.
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Reply By: danielostPosted: Thursday, November 22, 2007congress like you are cowards. and yes this includes the gop since they were in charge at the time.


The Biggest two COWARDS are AWOL GEORGE AND DRAFT DOGGER DICK!!!!!!
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AWOL GEORGE AND DRAFT DOGGER DICK!!!!!!


Tells you everything you need to know about Gene and the filter through which he processes every thought. Though he is curiously blind to DRAFT "DODGER" BILL.
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Though he is curiously blind to DRAFT "DODGER" BILL.


also known as aid and comfort to the enemy bill
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Reply | Edit | DeleteReply By: DaiwaPosted: Thursday, November 22, 2007AWOL GEORGE AND DRAFT DOGGER DICK!!!!!!Tells you everything you need to know about Gene and the filter through which he processes every thought. Though he is curiously blind to DRAFT "DODGER" BILL.


Bill Clinton did not sent our troops into a need less war in which over 3,800 were killed and over 28,000 injured. Bush who got Daddy to keep him out of Vietnam and Cheney who avoided Vietnam with deferments can send other people's kids into an unjustified war to die and be injured but when it was time for Bush and Cheney to put their lives on the line in Vietnam, LOOK what they did. That is NO FILTER is the absolute truth!
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Bill Clinton did not sent our troops into a need less war


no he sent them into twenty unarmed

and he tried to abanden a downed pilot
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Reply By: danielostPosted: Thursday, November 22, 2007Bill Clinton did not sent our troops into a need less war no he sent them into twenty unarmedand he tried to abanden a downed pilot


Show us where Clinton killed 3,800 American Troops or Injured over 28,000. Show us where Clinton spent a Trillion DOLLARS IN AN UNNEEDED WAR? CLINTON WAS NOT WITHOUT FAULT BUT COMPARED WITH GWB HE WAS A SAINT!
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CLINTON WAS NOT WITHOUT FAULT BUT COMPARED WITH GWB HE WAS A SAINT!


if clinton was a saint then christ was a demon
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Reply By: danielostPosted: Thursday, November 22, 2007CLINTON WAS NOT WITHOUT FAULT BUT COMPARED WITH GWB HE WAS A SAINT! if clinton was a saint then christ was a demon


The comparison was between Bush and Clinton you IDIOT!
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The comparison was between Bush and Clinton you


and i am saying you cant compare the two.


right or wrong bush is doing what he thinks is right for the country


the only thing Clinton did was drop a lot of bombs in the desert of Iraq and Afghanistan to protect his own butt.

oh and he also apologized for the Cole being in the way of that suicide boat.


i don't need anyone to tell he did this. I watched his news conference and that was what i got from what he said.


what was 18 sailors were killed in that attack. and Clinton is on TV saying that we are sorry that the Cole was in that port on that day. talk about meaningless deaths. and you want to put that sorry person back into office.


bush may have gone into the national guard to get out of going to Vietnam. but he at least did not dodge the draft and go to Russia to protest against America like Clinton did. do you still want to compare Clinton to bush.
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The comparison was between Bush and Clinton you


and i am saying you cant compare the two.


right or wrong bush is doing what he thinks is right for the country


the only thing Clinton did was drop a lot of bombs in the desert of Iraq and Afghanistan to protect his own butt.

oh and he also apologized for the Cole being in the way of that suicide boat.


i don't need anyone to tell he did this. I watched his news conference and that was what i got from what he said.


what was it 18 sailors that were killed in that attack. and Clinton is on TV saying that we are sorry that the Cole was in that port on that day. talk about meaningless deaths. and you want to put that sorry person back into office.


bush may have gone into the national guard to get out of going to Vietnam. but he at least did not dodge the draft and go to Russia to protest against America like Clinton did. do you still want to compare Clinton to bush.


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Reply By: danielostPosted: Thursday, November 22, 2007Bill Clinton did not sent our troops into a need less war no he sent them into twenty unarmedand he tried to abanden a downed pilot


Show us how many American military were killed and injured during the Clinton Administration compared with the Bush Administration?
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bush may have gone into the national guard to get out of going to Vietnam. but he at least did not dodge the draft and go to Russia to protest against America like Clinton did. do you still want to compare Clinton to bush.


Yes let’s compare Clinton and Bush:

Number of dead and Injured American Military during their terms in office.

Amount added to the National Debt.

Number of illegal’s that came across our borders.

Number of manufacturing jobs lost.

Number of scandals

Shift in the wealth to the top

Price increase of gas and oil

Number of people thought the world that hate us.


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Number of people thought the world that hate us.


the same number since the 70's same groups of people.