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GOP Senators Stop Funding For OUR Troops

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The House approved $50 Billion for the Iraq War and Senate GOP members prevented that bill from coming to a vote. It is now clear what is stopping the Iraq War Funding are the GOP members of Congress and George W. Bush. I would suggest the Defense Secretary address his comments to them.

If our troops do not have what they need it is clearly because of the GOP and President Bush. I wonder how they will justify their actions?
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Reply #51 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: danielostPosted: Saturday, November 17, 2007This Blog is about stopping the Iraq war funding by the GOP in the Senate! no this blog as all of your blogs is to attack bush.now since you are a coward.answer me this why don't the democrats want to get out of Afghanistan


Because that is where 9/11 was planned and the elements that are responsible for that attack continue to operate. If Bush had used our military in Afghanistan and not sent them to invade Iraq, we may be a lot further in controlling the terrorists who attacked us. Bush allowed them to move into Iraq and diverted the military we needed to eliminate al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. The choices Bush made has failed to destroy Al-Qaeda and caused the dearth of over 3,800 of out troops and the injury of more then 28,000. All that and we are no safer then before all the dead and injured in Iraq.
Reply #52 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: DaiwaPosted: Saturday, November 17, 2007It takes a simple majority to pass bills unless the Senate refuses to allow a vote. Cheney proved that when he broke a tie in a 50/50 vote on several occasions from 2001-2006! And your point would be? That the Constitution worked?


Only because the Democrats did not use the tactics that the GOP is using to block a vote in the Senate!

Congress needs to stick to their guns and pass the funding the way the majority wants. If the GOP in Congress stop the funding and shut down vital functions, they will be held accountable at the next election! The House can pass the needed funding and if the Senate GOP members stand in the doorway with cloture, there are 22 Senate seats held by GOP Members in danger. It will be interesting to see how many are willing to prevent a vote. If both the House and Senate pass funding bills and Bush Vetoes them, both the House and Senate members that do not override the Bush Veto will be in jeopardy in November 2008. I hope the Democrats in Congress have the BALLS to put Bush in his place and up hold the Constitution! Make Bush and the GOP who stop the funding of our military and other vital functions be held responsible!!!!!
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Reply #53 from JoeUser Forums Top
For someone who professes to revere the Constitution as much as you do and who squeals so loudly when he perceives it has been violated in some way, I can't quite understand your bitching & moaning when it works as designed.


If Bush and GOP members of Congress prevent the passage of essential funding with cloture in the Senate or fail to override a Veto, the system will fail. The intent in the Constitution was to have the majority in Congress set spending. If that does not happen because of parliamentary maneuvers the system is not working.
Reply #54 from JoeUser Forums Top
Only because the Democrats did not use the tactics that the GOP is using to block a vote in the Senate!




I'm sorry who was that using filibusters for six years to block the appointment of over 200 Judges. these were simple majority votes. but to break the filibuster requires 2/3rds vote. and that was in the senate.
Reply #55 from JoeUser Forums Top
please don't take that the wrong way, i don't drink.


Neither do I really. Except this week.

You sort of miss the point. Photographs, in some respect or another, tell a story. At least good ones do. Do we tell the story of our soldiers as they are, or do we sanatize the story to make it more palitable?

Do you really want to see the missing face, arms, and legs?
Reply #56 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: danielostPosted: Saturday, November 17, 2007Only because the Democrats did not use the tactics that the GOP is using to block a vote in the Senate!I'm sorry who was that using filibusters for six years to block the appointment of over 200 Judges. these were simple majority votes. but to break the filibuster requires 2/3rds vote. and that was in the senate.


The issue is not Judges but the Budget. The Democrats could have stopped Bush and the GOP from the spending by cloture in the Senate from 2001-2006. They did not have the tactic of the Veto as the GOP has today. It is time to insure the MAJORITY in Congress establish spending and if we must allow Bush and the GOP in Congress to shut down vital functions so be it. For the majority to give in to Bush and those that place party loyalty ABOVE the welfare of our country would be to deny what the majority of Americans want. That has got to end! Let’s see how the voters react to Bush and his GOP supporters that must face the voters in November 2008 feel about a cut off of funds to our troops or an interruption of some vital services such as Airport security or food inspections.
Reply #57 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm sorry who was that using filibusters for six years to block the appointment of over 200 Judges. these were simple majority votes. but to break the filibuster requires 2/3rds vote. and that was in the senate.


First it does not require a 2/3 majority to end Cloture. It requires 60 votes. 2/3 of the Senate is 67. That is what is needed to override a veto.Also most of those 200 judges you talk about were confirmed by the Senate.
Reply #58 from JoeUser Forums Top
Let’s see how the voters react to Bush and his GOP supporters that must face the voters in November 2008 feel about a cut off of funds to our troops or an interruption of some vital services such as Airport security or food inspections.



Any cut in funds of the troops will be soley the fault of the democrats.  End of story.
Reply #59 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply | Edit | DeleteReply By: Island DogPosted: Sunday, November 18, 2007Let’s see how the voters react to Bush and his GOP supporters that must face the voters in November 2008 feel about a cut off of funds to our troops or an interruption of some vital services such as Airport security or food inspections.Any cut in funds of the troops will be soley the fault of the democrats. End of story.



That is a LIE. If the GOP in the Senate block a vote it will be the fault of the GOP Senators that refuse to allow the appropriations Bills to come to a vote. If Bush were to Veto a Bill that passed both houses of Congress it will be first Bush who cuts off the funding because of his VETO. If the GOP in Congress fails to override his veto it becomes their fault. There is NOTHING that requires the MAJORITY of Congress to pass funding that meet what the President wants!

If the GOP blocks funding supported by the majority in Congress all voters will know who is at fault!
Reply #60 from JoeUser Forums Top
If the GOP blocks funding supported by the majority in Congress all voters will know who is at fault!


LOL gene.  You are so much of a hack for the democrats you don't see anything else in this issue.  Democrats are at fault here.

The GOP should block any bill that is filled with requirements for withdrawal or anything else like that.  Hopefully they will tell the public how the democrats are using these bills for partisan politics.






Reply #61 from JoeUser Forums Top
If Bush and GOP members of Congress prevent the passage of essential funding with cloture in the Senate or fail to override a Veto, the system will fail. The intent in the Constitution was to have the majority in Congress set spending. If that does not happen because of parliamentary maneuvers the system is not working.


You have confirmed your 1) ignorance (the intent you claim is nowhere to be found in the Constitution), and 2) disregard for the very document you wrap your arguments in. Shame on you.
Reply #62 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Island DogPosted: Sunday, November 18, 2007If the GOP blocks funding supported by the majority in Congress all voters will know who is at fault! gene. You are so much of a hack for the democrats you don't see anything else in this issue. Democrats are at fault here.The GOP should block any bill that is filled with requirements for withdrawal or anything else like that. Hopefully they will tell the public how the democrats are using these bills for partisan politics.


WRONG-- The Democrats are doing what the MAJORITY want- It is the GOP that are preventing the funding that the majority of BOTH Congress and the American people want! Since when is it wrong to follow what the majority want?
Reply #63 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: DaiwaPosted: Sunday, November 18, 2007If Bush and GOP members of Congress prevent the passage of essential funding with cloture in the Senate or fail to override a Veto, the system will fail. The intent in the Constitution was to have the majority in Congress set spending. If that does not happen because of parliamentary maneuvers the system is not working.You have confirmed your 1) ignorance (the intent you claim is nowhere to be found in the Constitution), and 2) disregard for the very document you wrap your arguments in. Shame on you.


YOU FULL OF BS!
Reply #64 from JoeUser Forums Top
My Predictions of the 2008 election are as follows:

Democrats win the White House

Democrats increase their control in the House

Democrats increase their control in the Senate.

KEEP my prediction and look at them after the November 2008 Election!
Reply #65 from JoeUser Forums Top
YOU FULL OF BS!


Hit a nerve, it would appear.
Reply #66 from JoeUser Forums Top
(Citizen)COL Gene


it's pinky, it's pinky, it's pinky and the brain.


now all we have to do is figuare out which one he is.
Reply #67 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: danielostPosted: Sunday, November 18, 2007(Citizen)COL Geneit's pinky, it's pinky, it's pinky and the brain. now all we have to do is figuare out which one he is.


BS all you want-- We will see what November 2008 brings. I have made my predictions and we will see who is correct!
Reply #68 from JoeUser Forums Top
What a daring gambler you are, Gene. What swashbuckle. I'm in awe.
Reply #69 from JoeUser Forums Top
Further, I think you will see additional democratic gains at the state level. The only wringer to your predictions, Gene, is if Hil is the nominee. Then I think gains, if any, will be surpressed. And we'll be depressed.
Reply #70 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: DaiwaPosted: Sunday, November 18, 2007What a daring gambler you are, Gene. What swashbuckle. I'm in awe.


Talk to me in November 2008
Reply #71 from JoeUser Forums Top
Talk to me in November 2008


Why would I do that when I could just smash my face repeatedly into the wall in front of me? Surely I've got a sharp stick around here somewhere that I could stick in my eye, repeatedly.

Reply #72 from JoeUser Forums Top
personally i think you both are wrong. i am hoping for someone who really means what they say. the last one was Reagan. bush is close but he isn't a Reagan type.
Reply #73 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: joe-pro-photographerPosted: Sunday, November 18, 2007Further, I think you will see additional democratic gains at the state level. The only wringer to your predictions, Gene, is if Hil is the nominee. Then I think gains, if any, will be surpressed. And we'll be depressed.


I agree that she, like Bush, will be more polarizing. I also believe she will be the Democratic nominee. The selection of a VP candidate may be able to offset that to some extent.

What voters must ask, "If it is change they want they can not elect any of the GOP candidates as President”. They will continue the Bush policies for the most part and a GOP President after January 2009 will insure that most of the changes people want will not take place even with gains by the democrats in Congress. If we have another president like the leading GOP candidates it would take a VETO PROOF Congress to get anything done. The GOP are like vampires—they have tasted Blood with the use of the Veto and the threat of a Filibuster in the Senate to prevent what the MAJORITY want!
Reply #74 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: danielostPosted: Sunday, November 18, 2007personally i think you both are wrong. i am hoping for someone who really means what they say. the last one was Reagan. bush is close but he isn't a Reagan type.


The issue is not that Bush means what he says. It is that what Bush believes and has done has not solved the issues that face our country. NOT a single major issue that faces us as a nation has been improved over the past 7 years following the policies of GWB. During WWII 50 Million Japanese believed their Emperor was GOD. THEY WERE WRONG. Bush and his policies have not worked and will not resolve any of the problems that face us. Since all of the leading GOP candidates would for the most part continue those policies it is clear we can not elect ANY of them as President and expect to deal with the challenges that face us!
Reply #75 from JoeUser Forums Top
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The issue is not that Bush means what he says.



actually that is the issue because non of your demo. heros believe anything they say. at least non of them that i have heard talk.