Anyone played the old civ2 by Microprose?

Hi
I am dead tired today after playing civ2 all weekend!

Having played all the civ games to civ4, i really cannot understand why the old primative civ2 is still somehow the most fun to play of the series??

Also my disk is damaged and i cannot get any wonder movies or see the amuzing council "build more troops" lol, he cracks me up. Also the damaged disk makes loading the game very slow because of the stupid windows XP autoplay, grrrr.
Any suggestions what i can do to fix this problem?
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I give Civ2 credit for me finding GalCiv2. I've had Civ 2 for years(still installed in fact), but it led me to buy Civ 3, which led me to get Civ 4 then to the CivFanatics website where I saw a write up on GC2. WHaalaa! I ended up here over a year ago. Now none of the Civ games get played much.    I agree though, Civ2 had a quality that was just missed in the later ones(though they were fun).
You could try disabling autoplay and just manually selecting the .exe to load. Though if the hangup is it trying to read the disk then you'd probably have to find a way to eliminate having to use the disk(not advocating anything nefarious here   )
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If you do a full installation you shouldn't need the disk at all. Heh . . . I just installed the game to confirm, took like 2 minutes.

At least in v2.42, without the disk you'll get a popup warning that you may not be able to access certain multimedia features, but you'll be able to continue loading the game.
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the CivFanatics website


Oh where is that site?

I agree though, Civ2 had a quality that was just missed in the later ones(though they were fun).


Agree, the other civ games all have their big irritating things... civ call to power and civ3 with their pirating of trade routes! and civ 4 with its loss of unit bombardment. But civ2 is a pretty clean game - no big irritations at all, although i will give note to the radical war weriness of the democracy, but this is mostly just weird, not annoying, and challenging to work around.... i have to take transports to distant lands and bribe units then bring them back to use in combat!

You could try disabling autoplay and just manually selecting the .exe to load. Though if the hangup is it trying to read the disk then you'd probably have to find a way to eliminate having to use the disk(not advocating anything nefarious here )


Unfortunately there is no disabling autoplay in XP, i hear that feature has been nerfed off to some stupid tools addon. Because of this idiot thing Microsoft did, i have to restart my computer and insert the disk while the computer is still booting up.

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So download TweakUI and disable autoplay. Or follow a few simple steps and disable it via the registry:

WWW Link


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I used to have this nice map designed by one of my friends that was intended to make the various players very difficult to conquer. I still remember nuking a single city on a hostile continent, same turn assaulting it, quick buying an SDI, loading it up with troops and launching a continent wide nuclear strike that hit every city but one on the last AI. Good times!!

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The reason Civ 2 was great? Because it was before they starting putting "anti cheese" measures in to keep it from being so easy to end up attacking spearmen with jet planes, not realizing that's was always half the fun of the Civ game.

I too enjoyed me some Civ2, mostly for the Full motion video advisors ( I really loved it when I was at war, and my war advisor went walking by the window laughing and eating a turkey leg. It got a bit cumbersome with micromanagement and larger games, and war weariness sucked.


But I'm aware I'm speaking mostly out of nostalgia because civ 2 was my first civ, and doubt I would want to turn in most of the great improvements of Civ 4. Well, maybe a few.
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So download TweakUI and disable autoplay. Or follow a few simple steps and disable it via the registry:


Nice!   

I used to have this nice map designed by one of my friends that was intended to make the various players very difficult to conquer. I still remember nuking a single city on a hostile continent, same turn assaulting it, quick buying an SDI, loading it up with troops and launching a continent wide nuclear strike that hit every city but one on the last AI. Good times!!


Hehehe, yea, and those missiles can make it very hard to get your navy near their coast,, no other civ game can pound your navy so thouroughly!! and the barbarians work better in civ2 than any of the later versions.... those barbarian naval landings keep you on your toes! you don't get those in later versions (very sad).

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Civ2 managed to provide an almost magical balance, where everything worked together in a fluid and logical fashion. While the graphics improved in civ3 and 4, the different game elements started to scream for attention, and so the magic was lost, maybe forever.

I feel it was a very refined and cleaned up product for it's time. With ties to board gaming perhaps.



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Oh where is that site?


It was one of the first places I went to look for mods and general strat info for the Civ series. It's hereCivFanatics.com
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Civ2 managed to provide an almost magical balance, where everything worked together in a fluid and logical fashion. While the graphics improved in civ3 and 4, the different game elements started to scream for attention, and so the magic was lost, maybe forever.

I feel it was a very refined and cleaned up product for it's time. With ties to board gaming perhaps.


You summed it up nicely, the strange thing is that the later versions are actually more realistic but civ 2 is just plain fun as hell!! and the council dudes of civ 2 are a classic, especially that military advisor.

It was one of the first places I went to look for mods and general strat info for the Civ series. It's hereCivFanatics.com


Brilliant! thanks,
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Bah! in my current game, i forgot about the airport boost to mines! grrrr. And all this time i was wondering why the hell i am unable to support the numbers of engineers i remembered being able to support before! lol
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Hi!
Anyone played the old civ2 by Microprose?

Yep. Has made me quit playing any Civ game, when I discovered the AI's city with three shields of free production got each turn ~40 shields for producing a wonder. The same wonder I've been struggling with for more than 10 turns. I tried everything to beat the AI (caravans, high tax to get more money to buy the wonder...), to no avail. Then I reloaded, activated cheat and just watched the AI's city. Never again tried any Civ game, despite I played Civ-1 A LOT.

BR, Iztok
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Has made me quit playing any Civ game, when I discovered the AI's city with three shields of free production got each turn ~40 shields for producing a wonder. The same wonder I've been struggling with for more than 10 turns.


I'm sure that wouldn't matter on lower difficulty levels.

I am currently playing the world map starting in Australia (because i am Australian) on Emperor level and i find i am still able to build most of the wonders.

I find that lowering my science rate and building lots of diplomats early on to steal techs and bribe units is the easiest way to dominate the game from a weak position!
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I was playimng that right up until I got the Gold Edition when it came out. i found it in my supermarket for like $4.99. it had no tech tree map though.

Great game. In that game you could conquor the world with spies.
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I feel Civ4 is the most balanced of all civ series yet for some this will make the game less interesting. What really made Civ2 shine was "simplicity" (like a board game). For example; artillery was just another unit with high attack and low defense so the AI didn't have to be programed to handle artillery different unlike Civ3 and Civ4. Another Ex; civ2 had a simple way of dealing with "Stacks of Doom"; if you lose the defender when attacked outside of a city or fort then the whole stack is destroyed.
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I feel Civ4 is the most balanced of all civ series yet for some this will make the game less interesting. What really made Civ2 shine was "simplicity" (like a board game). For example; artillery was just another unit with high attack and low defense so the AI didn't have to be programed to handle artillery different unlike Civ3 and Civ4. Another Ex; civ2 had a simple way of dealing with "Stacks of Doom"; if you lose the defender when attacked outside of a city or fort then the whole stack is destroyed.


Yea civ4 is ballanced, you cannot hold a defensive position in civ4 like you can in civ2. If your careful, you do not have to take very many casualties at all in civ2 but in civ4 you will be hard pressed to replace all your extensive losses no matter how careful you are (fighting a superior enemy that is).

I think the 'stacks of doom' in civ2 are a dissadvantage to the AI.... although the stack of doom leaves their units invunerable to bribery.