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Reply #26 October 24, 2007 5:10:04 PM
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Reply By: CedarbirdPosted: Wednesday, October 24, 2007
I am still backling Fred,


Please don't say you mean Fred Thompson, the actor. If he wins, I'm moving to Mexico.

Bill Richardson for President!!

No offense but Bill who?

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Reply #27 October 24, 2007 5:11:04 PM
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Reply By: little-whipPosted: Wednesday, October 24, 2007
Whew! Someone's dander is up! Feeling a bit intolerant, are you?


The fact that you don't see the irony in that statement, lula, is an irony within an irony.

Yeh that's pretty much how I feel about her comment.

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Reply #28 October 24, 2007 5:13:54 PM
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No offense but Bill who?


He's from Mexico.
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Reply #29 October 24, 2007 5:27:23 PM
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Reply By: Adventure-DudePosted: Wednesday, October 24, 2007
No offense but Bill who?


He's from Mexico.

I know, he also is dead last with around 3% of the vote.

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Reply #30 October 24, 2007 5:39:33 PM
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I know, he also is dead last with around 3% of the vote.


but he speaky espanol!
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Reply #31 October 24, 2007 5:41:21 PM
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Nope, wanna fill me in?


He was talking about that book I mentioned and it was a pretty good segment. He was mentioning how Russia's goal since the 1950's has been to spread communism throughout the world bringing down the US last. It was a fascinating perspective. I may have to read that book.
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Reply #32 October 24, 2007 5:53:56 PM
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And Bill Richardson can be a great benefit to the nation's economy...you know what? Just ask San Chonino, He can tell you all about it. I just like the guy. And I refuse to believe he's dead last. Deny, deny deny!
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Reply #33 October 24, 2007 6:09:17 PM
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Reagan was pro-life, we still had legal abortion.
Bush Sr was pro-life, we still had legal abortion.
Bush Jr is pro-life, we still have legal abortion.

It's not like the president gets to decide these issues all by himself.


Yes, all of this is true.

And yet, by having these pro-life presidents, the momentum is progressing steadily forward. Rudy as President would not help, but hinder, in this regard. If he wants the stalwart pro-life vote, he's going to have to change his tune and convincingly so. between now and the time of the election.

He's convinced some of the neo-Cons, like Hannity, et al, who are nominally pro-life, saying he'll appoint strict constrictionist judges. But that doesn't hold water. He didn't during his stint as mayor.

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Reply #34 October 24, 2007 6:14:29 PM
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The religious right only makes me a tad nauseous.

(just wanted to make a little appearance on your blog. You know how I feel about politics...)
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Reply #35 October 24, 2007 6:17:16 PM
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Reply By: RoyLevoshPosted: Wednesday, October 24, 2007
The religious right only makes me a tad nauseous.

(just wanted to make a little appearance. You know how I feel about politics...)

thanks for the show up my friend.

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Reply #36 October 24, 2007 6:19:04 PM
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With the 'Conservative Christians' refusing to vote for Romney (because he isn't a 'real' Christian) or Rudy (because of his liberal social policies) we may as well hand the office to Hillary (or worse yet, Obama) on a silver platter.


Even though you are pro-Rudy, why LW, are you talking like Rudy is a done deal? There is still a ways to go to the primary and lots can happen between now and then.

I think in some ways it does a disservice to the Republican Party to automatically assume something like this far in front of the primary.

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Reply #37 October 24, 2007 6:22:09 PM
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I know, he also is dead last with around 3% of the vote.


but he speaky espanol!


he still has more foreign relations experience than anyone on the entire Democratic docket.

It's a crime that he's so undersupported.

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Reply #38 October 24, 2007 6:26:52 PM
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And Bill Richardson can be a great benefit to the nation's economy...you know what? Just ask San Chonino, He can tell you all about it. I just like the guy. And I refuse to believe he's dead last. Deny, deny deny!


Granted he has done alot to help NM but he won't make the nomination.
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Reply #39 October 24, 2007 6:26:57 PM
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Hillary, who in MY OPINION will destroy America, She has a progressive agenda


Actually, according to her college writings which she hasn't denounced, she's an admitted Marxist...very scary indeed.
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Reply #40 October 24, 2007 6:30:50 PM
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Reply By: Adventure-DudePosted: Wednesday, October 24, 2007
And Bill Richardson can be a great benefit to the nation's economy...you know what? Just ask San Chonino, He can tell you all about it. I just like the guy. And I refuse to believe he's dead last. Deny, deny deny!


Granted he has done alot to help NM but he won't make the nomination.

Being a good person is not enough, you have to cater to those with deep pockets and that means making deals and Bill Richardson is a man of honor, he will not do that, and in not doing that he defeats himself.

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Reply #41 October 24, 2007 6:33:22 PM
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Reply By: lulapilgrimPosted: Wednesday, October 24, 2007
Hillary, who in MY OPINION will destroy America, She has a progressive agenda


Actually, according to her college writings which she hasn't denounced, she's an admitted Marxist...very scary indeed.

She is without a doubt a very scary lady, and secretive, much more secretive that the Bush white house and that is not a stretch.

BTW I would never slap a Lady, wanting to slap and slapping are in two different worlds, I have never, ever put my hands on a female in anger, EVER! not once, SOMETHING not very many men can claim.

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Reply #42 October 24, 2007 6:35:15 PM
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Actually, according to her college writings which she hasn't denounced, she's an admitted Marxist...very scary indeed.


Marxist sounds better than Stalinist.
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Reply #43 October 24, 2007 6:47:43 PM
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MM writes: What might those ridiculous demands be? Dr. Dobson spoke as an individual.
you do more to push away conservative thinkers than any other part of the republican party with your ridiculous demands.


Ridiculous demands, really? Again, the Republican Platform is pro-life. So you're saying it's ridiculuous to expect GOP candidates to tow the party line? And if they don't, by your standard, it's ridiculous then to let them know they don't deserve your support or vote and not to expect it no matter what the circumstances.

Nah! It's better all around to keep the high GOP standard and expect the candidate to live up to it.

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Reply #44 October 24, 2007 6:57:08 PM
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The Reglious Right makes you sick? Interesting. I have yet to detect any evidence in your statement to support such a conclusion. You have compared Christianity to cancer. Interesting that most cancer patients pray more often than they breath.

As a Christian I do not require anyone to believe as I do, with a few exceptions. Don't murder, don't lie, don't cheat on your spouse, obey the laws of the land (ours in the US are based on the Ten Commandments, although liberals don't want you to know that), don't take other people's stuff, etc., you get the idea. Don't do harm to your neighbor or yourself, is usually a good policy. Teaching people to be nice to each other is one of the reasons they nailed Jesus on to two pieces of wood... But I digress.

Be careful how you categorize people. There are a lot of Christians who feel as I do, just as there are a lot of Muslims who are not terrorists.
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Reply #45 October 24, 2007 6:58:55 PM
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Reply By: lulapilgrimPosted: Wednesday, October 24, 2007
MM writes: What might those ridiculous demands be? Dr. Dobson spoke as an individual.

First he might have spoken as one man, but and it's a huge but, he speaks for many people, his voice carries a tremendous amount of weight.

To expect a candidate to toe {not tow} each and every line you draw in the sand is folly, specially when it means that someione far worse will get in, as explained above the President has no say so in abortion issues the SCOTUS does, as for what he did as Mayor of New York is has no bearing on what he might or might not do as President of the United States, All I know is he will protect us, and that is Job One for the government.

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Reply #46 October 24, 2007 7:02:50 PM
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Reply By: Troy RuizPosted: Wednesday, October 24, 2007
The Reglious Right makes you sick? Interesting. I have yet to detect any evidence in your statement to support such a conclusion. You have compared Christianity to cancer. Interesting that most cancer patients pray more often than they breath.

NO! I have compared fundalmentalist Christians to Cancer, all religious fanatics are bad, IMO.

As a Christian I do not require anyone to believe as I do,

Then you are the exception, as part of Christianity are you not suppossed to bring people to Jesus by your actions and words?

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Reply #47 October 24, 2007 7:04:35 PM
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don't cheat on your spouse,


What the hell does someone else's behavior with their spouse have to do with you?

While much of your post had some sense to it, this little chunk is ridiculous.
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Reply #48 October 24, 2007 7:16:49 PM
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BTW I would never slap a Lady, wanting to slap and slapping are in two different worlds, I have never, ever put my hands on a female in anger, EVER! not once, SOMETHING not very many men can claim.


Quite frankly, MM, I was hoping you'd say something like this to explain that remark of yours.

To me, as I read your article, you indicated that for x, y and z reasons, the religious right is your (personal) enemy that you wouldn't mind face slapping. So, in that sense, I took it personally.

In any event, save that kind of vehemence for true enemies, not other GOP members. If I learned anything from your article, it's that if we are to win, the GOP and all it's big-tent members have got to find a way to work effectively together. I think it can be done and will be done.

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Reply #49 October 24, 2007 7:24:21 PM
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SOMETHING not very many men can claim.


I can claim it.

~Zoo
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Reply #50 October 24, 2007 7:40:23 PM
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LULA POSTS:
Feeling a bit intolerant, are you?


Yes, by intolerant, here's what I meant. Your entire article demonstrates your intolerance and utter disdain for pro-life Christians who in your view have no place under the big GOP tent. According to you, they not only have no place in the GOP but also they are as a disease being there.

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