GOP Presidential Debate



Last night I taped the latest GOP presidential debate so I could listen to it today. More and more I have come to the conclusion that both political parties have no clue how to govern America.

One of the common themes last night is to cut Federal Spending. At the same time the candidates were blasting spending they want to significantly increase military spending. They support tax credits to enable people without health coverage to obtain heath insurance. At the same time they say we can not continue with the annual deficit. None of the GOP candidates that support these two things explain where the money to significantly expand our military and field a missile Defense system is to come from. No one explains where the money for tax credits to pay for health coverage is to come from. In fact these two proposals would add hundreds of Billions to the existing spending levels.

I happen to agree we need to spend more on our military. However I also know that we need added tax revenue to pay for that increased spending as well as to balance the current budget. Some of the candidates also are following the LIE from Bush about the size of the deficit. They claim that the 2007 annual deficit was $161 Billion dollars. That is NOT true. The actual 2007 deficit is $500 Billion. They, like Bush, subtract the Social Security Surplus from the actual budget deficit to make it appear smaller.

The Democrats want to start new health programs which will increase spending and the GOP wants to increase both military spending and provide more tax cuts to fund health insurance coverage. Neither approach is realistic and just continues a fiscal policy this country can not afford! No GOP candidate had any real solutions for the fiscal problems of Social Security or Medicare. They spent their time telling us how serious those issues are with no suggestions that come close to resolving the fiscal problems that beset both these programs! It is sad we have NO candidate from either party that has any clue of how to solve the greatest challenges that face our country.
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For those that want to look at the actual change in the national debt this past year I have copied the following from " debt to the Penney" Go to Google:

National debt Sept 30, 2007 $ 9.008 Trillion. National debt Sept. 30, 2006 $ 8.507 Trillion. That is an increase of $500 Billion from the last day of the 2006 FY and the 2007FY. $500 Billion is more then the $161 Billion Bush claims.[/B]
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I took a look at the cost to provide the $2,500 per person tax credit for health care as the GOP candidates suggested:

If 20 Million people received a $2,500 tax credit the cost each year would be $50 Billion per year.

If 30 million received the $2,500 credit it would cost $75 Billion per year.
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Reply By: danielost Posted: Monday, October 22, 2007
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Same to you. You such an IDIOT!
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Reply By: danielost Posted: Monday, October 22, 2007
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You surely are an idiot!
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Reply By: danielost Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2007
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YOU belong in an institution for the mentally disabled!
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"More and more I have come to the conclusion that both political parties have no clue how to govern America."

That's probably the smartest conclusion you could come to.
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YOU belong in an institution for the mentally disabled!

Why?  Becuse he repeats the same thing over and over again?  Sounds like someone I know.

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Reply By: Island Dog Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2007

“YOU belong in an institution for the mentally disabled!

Why? Because he repeats the same thing over and over again? Sounds like someone I know.” I repeat the FACTS.

No because he does nothing but spews nonsense. I provide facts and the sources for those facts and he responds with non- coherent responses. That shows a mental deficiency to me.
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Hey, it's okay to call regular people mentally deficient as an insult, but to bring it up to someone who's really mentally deficient is just tactless.
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Why? Because he repeats the same thing over and over again? Sounds like someone I know.” I repeat the FACTS.

No because he does nothing but spews nonsense. I provide facts and the sources for those facts and he responds with non- coherent responses. That shows a mental deficiency to me.


she asked if it reminded you of someone. what sources.
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Hey, it's okay to call regular people mentally deficient as an insult, but to bring it up to someone who's really mentally deficient is just tactless




he can call me mentally deficient i already know that i am.
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Well, we wouldn't want to hurt you self-esteem, Daniel.
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More and more I have come to the conclusion that both political parties have no clue how to govern America.


THANK YOU! Now let's set about fixing it by kicking them ALL out of office!
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Well, we wouldn't want to hurt you self-esteem, Daniel.


you have to have it in order to really hurt it.
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“She asked if it reminded you of someone. What sources?”

Departments of the Energy, Treasury, Commerce, Labor, Census Bureau, Social Security & Medicare Trustees, Federal Reserve, Dept of Defense, National Security Council - NIE, Comptroller General ( GAO), Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and Congressional Budget Office. Also the Brookings Institute and The College Board. This is where I obtained most of the data I have sighted in this and in my Blog of the Bush results. Which of these do you believe is not providing factual information?
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Which of these do you believe is not providing factual information?


you
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Reply By: danielost Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2007
“Which of these do you believe is not providing factual information?


You”

That makes NO sense. What I am presenting comes directly from the sources I listed. When for example I sight the change in the NATIONAL DEBT FROM WHEN BUSH TOOK OFFICE UNTIL TODAY THAT IS NOT ME-- IT IS THE U.S. TREASURY. I SAY AGAIN- WHICH OF THE SOURCES I HAVE USED IS NOT PROVIDING FACTUAL INFORMATION?
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you can make numbers and what people say to mean anything you want to.


bush does not control the purse. the house does.