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Republicans aka fascists

from PolMach Forums
The biggest problem in the States these days is by far the Republican Party! LOL!!! Not only are they fear mongers, war mongers, and idiots (that's obvious), they can only complain about what's wrong with democrats, not come up with any ideas of their own, or offer any solutions to current problems. They are nothing but a bunch of loud mouth know-it-alls. It's time for them to be told to SHUT THE HELL UP!!! First of all, Bush is an idiot and quite possibly the worst president we've ever had (next to another Republican, Hoover). Why just the other day I heard chicken lips say that, "Childrens today need education." Childrens??? Do you mind??? How did this nut ever get elected? Oh, he didn't. The first time around he was appointed by the Supreme Court. I won't even go into the times he's said nukular or how about the old, "More and more imports are coming into the country." All imports come into the country you nut!

Problem one: Bush, ok, that's just a rant. He's a lame duck so it's too late to do anything unless they impeach him (which they should) and then convict him.

Problem two: Immigration. Republicans talk about Dems being weak on immigration. Here I actually see both parties at fault. What should be done is first, change the law that says immigrant children are automatically US citizens. Second, bring the National Guard back from Iraq and put them on the Mexican border with orders to shoot any illegal that tries to cross. Third, build the wall on the Mexican border and use the illegal aliens that are already here to build it...and then throw them over. If they try to cross back over the have the National Guard that is already there shoot them! People say, "Oh, the economy would be far worse off if the illegals were not here." I say that's a cop-out. The country as a whole would be stronger and better off without them! The economy wouldn't be drained by their burden.

Problem two: Dems are weak on national defense. Where the hell did this come from? They have fed this bs down the throats of the media so much that the people actually believe this crap. Who were the Presidents during WWI and WWII? Ever heard of Woodrow Wilson and FDR??? Were they republican or Democrat? Who was, more recently, the Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee? Sam Nunn, Democrat. Now, who was the President responsible for the Great Depression? Hoover! And what party was he??? LOL!!!

Problem three: republicans are better for the economy. Yeah, let me get on a tirade about Reaganomics and the trickle-down effect!

Problem four: Iraq. OK, most Dems voted to go into Iraq, but that was after they were lied to. Where are the WMD's? We are over there now so let's take care of business. OK, I'll agree with that, but why don't we just get out of the quagmire Bush has created? Leaving doesn't mean retreating. Leaving means letting the Iraqi's take care of their own country. Here, we took care of saddam. We've built you what we can without getting ourselves blown up too much. But now it's time to be a big boy and take care of yourself. The real solution would be to dissolve the borders of Iraq, create 3 new countries within the current borders, and let the Sunnis, Shia, and Kurds run their own business. Make Baghdad owned by all three. The real solution would be to go find Osama. Remember him?

All right! I'm done. Let's hear whatchya got!
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Reply #51 from JoeUser Forums Top
Note that these things are current.

It's not some business connection 70 or 80 years ago. Jimmy Carter said these things in the last ten years. Nancy Pelosi visited Syria a year ago. It is TODAY that Democrats are working with and supporting fascists and old Nazis.

The Democrats' connection with the Ku-Klux-Klan is long cut, of course, but nevertheless a formeber member of the Ku-Klux-Klan is seen fit for the position of US Senator by the Democratic party.

And that little band of Nazi supporters dares call Republicans "fascists"?

It's unbelievable.

(There are many Democrats who have nothing to do with Carter's and Pelosi's crowd, of course. Decent Democrats who just want liberal policies and a liberal administration. But those Democrats are not calling Republicans fascists. It's the Democrats who support Nazis that do.)
Reply #52 from JoeUser Forums Top
- fought gigantic rabbits


That wins you a Nobel Peace Prize too.
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Reply #53 from JoeUser Forums Top

That wins you a Nobel Peace Prize too.


Thanks.

It's just that it annoys me that lefties always think that they are so morally superior. And when it comes to why, they make up stupid stuff like "Republicans aka fascists".
Reply #54 from JoeUser Forums Top
a Democrat cleverly deceived by Bush's lies.


I'm curious as to how am I expected to believe in a group of Democrats who, apparently, were dumb enough to believe a Republican?
Reply #55 from JoeUser Forums Top

It's just that it annoys me that lefties always think that they are so morally superior. And when it comes to why, they make up stupid stuff like "Republicans aka fascists".

The left tends to care about things very deeply and react to those who don't share their opinions as stupid or evil (or both).

It is too bad that the passion of the left can't be combined with the cool rationality of the right. Then we could passionately pursue and then execute on policies that would result in a better world rather than passionately pursue policies that lead to disaster.

The left always have good intentions. They just don't usually have the intellectual capability to think through the most likely consequences of their beliefs. (I'm not saying they're not intelligent, I think they have a particular tunnel vision).

Reply #56 from JoeUser Forums Top
however, it simply proves just how incompetent USA's intelligence network is, since none WMD were ever discovered


Yup, cause we were the only ones with this intel. Oh how great it is to be part of the team but not have to take the blame. The rest of the world should be thankful that they are allowed to get away with being stupid as well since the US will, apparently, take full responsibility. And they say we are a bad country.
Reply #57 from JoeUser Forums Top
i have figuared out why you shouldn't lie all the time.

it isn't because no one will believe you. yes that is bad enough.


but the real reason is because you will not believe anyone else.


and just for your info i stopped lieing when i was 16 just before going into the army.


of course no one is perfect.
Reply #58 from JoeUser Forums Top
It is too bad that the passion of the left can't be combined with the cool rationality of the right. Then we could passionately pursue and then execute on policies that would result in a better world rather than passionately pursue policies that lead to disaster.


you suggest that the right is always right, simply by it's perfect rationality. I find it quite arrogant and dogmatic.

And I think a majority of posters here are quite dogmatic about their beliefs that the right-wing opinions are the only "valid" ones. I know JU is not a good sample of reality, but you only seem eager to criticise the other side of the fence about those issues.
Reply #59 from PolMach Forums Top



those kind of things makes me thank God that people such as you are not in power.

So you would simply shoot Mexican citizens on the basis of.. public trespassing?

Want a war with your fries?


No. I would shoot them on the basis of crossing the border illegally dumb ass.

Reply #60 from JoeUser Forums Top
No. I would shoot them on the basis of crossing the border illegally dumb ass.


that's what I said. You don't shoot people simply because they violate a law, man! What you are proposing is quasi-warlike behavior to adopt against Mexican aliens. "Shoot them on sight"
Reply #61 from PolMach Forums Top



But what exactly have Republicans done to justify being associated with fascism?


gee, i don't know. Maybe the whole Patriot Act thing. And lets not forget about the whole imminent domain uproar a few months back where it was used to take private land to put in commercial retail space. GPS chips going into passports. So I can be tracked by my government but an illegal alien can't be tracked at all. Shall i keep going? I can get nit picky and mention that it is illegal to walk down the street with a beer in my hand. That one was put in place in GA by the republicans.

But how about some solutions? I've given/offered solutions in about 3 out of the 4 times i've written. Anyone have any solutions instead of bitching? If anyone has given an alternate solution to my original post, please quote it.
Reply #62 from JoeUser Forums Top

You don't shoot people simply because they violate a law, man!

A guy walks into a shop and starts shooting people.  The Police are called.  They tell him to stop, and he does not. 

So what are you going to do?  Give him girl scout cookies?

Think before you post!

Reply #63 from JoeUser Forums Top
about the whole imminent domain uproar a few months back


lets see imminent domain for commercial ventures.

imminent domain for wild life.


gee which is different.
Reply #64 from JoeUser Forums Top
A guy walks into a shop and starts shooting people. The Police are called. They tell him to stop, and he does not.
So what are you going to do? Give him girl scout cookies?
Think before you post!


you try to think! You could have the morale ground on shooting back in order to protect public (or personnal) safety.

You do not shoot him because he violated the law, but because you have to protect people.

If you see someone pickpocketing, would you shoot him on the sole basis he violated the law?

Illegal Immigrants are not endangering public safety by the sole process of crossing the border, then you have no ground on shooting them.

How thick-headed are you? Come on, not shooting aliens coming trough the fence would be the same than not-shooting someone on a killing spread?
Reply #65 from JoeUser Forums Top

gee, i don't know. Maybe the whole Patriot Act thing

What precisely do you think the Patriot act does that would make its supporters fascist? And were you aware that most Democrats supported its passage?

Also, what prominent Republican supports GPS in passports?

Reply #66 from JoeUser Forums Top
the Patriot act does that would make its supporters fascist?




it gives them to much potential power. such as the nascar thing going on right now.
Reply #67 from JoeUser Forums Top
No. I would shoot them on the basis of crossing the border illegally dumb ass.


Mmm, Mexican Murder. Seriously? Cross the border, get shot? I'd hate to jaywalk around your neighborhood.

~Zoo
Reply #68 from JoeUser Forums Top

you try to think! You could have the morale ground on shooting back in order to protect public (or personnal) safety.

You do not shoot him because he violated the law, but because you have to protect people.

You think!  You did not say that.  You said "violated the law".  He did, but then we cant shoot back.  Next time be more specific.

Reply #69 from JoeUser Forums Top

gee, i don't know. Maybe the whole Patriot Act thing. And lets not forget about the whole imminent domain uproar a few months back where it was used to take private land to put in commercial retail space. GPS chips going into passports. So I can be tracked by my government but an illegal alien can't be tracked at all. Shall i keep going? I can get nit picky and mention that it is illegal to walk down the street with a beer in my hand. That one was put in place in GA by the republicans.


So you cite a few measures passed by both Democrats and Republicans as "proof" that Republicans are fascists?

Well, I find my list more specific.

Perhaps you are confusing fascists for statists or vice versa?



But how about some solutions? I've given/offered solutions in about 3 out of the 4 times i've written.


Solutions for what problem? Your ignorance of what fascism is?
Reply #70 from JoeUser Forums Top

GPS chips going into passports. So I can be tracked by my government but an illegal alien can't be tracked at all. Shall i keep going?


Typical sign of fascism? Government treats foreigners better than own citizens?

Please keep going. It's very entertaining.

Reply #71 from JoeUser Forums Top
I find it hilarious that those who would normally agree with someone like clintonbabe are actually siding with the opposing debaters on this one. I'm gonna need some popcorn for this one.
Reply #72 from JoeUser Forums Top
You think! You did not say that. You said "violated the law". He did, but then we cant shoot back. Next time be more specific


...? Duh?

I said clearly:

You don't shoot people simply because they violate a law, man!


Then you said:

A guy walks into a shop and starts shooting people. The Police are called. They tell him to stop, and he does not.
So what are you going to do? Give him girl scout cookies?
Think before you post!


And I answered:

you try to think! You could have the morale ground on shooting back in order to protect public (or personnal) safety.
You do not shoot him because he violated the law, but because you have to protect people.
If you see someone pickpocketing, would you shoot him on the sole basis he violated the law?
Illegal Immigrants are not endangering public safety by the sole process of crossing the border, then you have no ground on shooting them.


So.. I don't see where I contradict myself. I say that violating the law is no basis to shoot someone. Protecting the public safety (or yourself) is, but nothing else is. Illegal Aliens are not endangering the public safety by crossing the border, you don't shoot them.
Reply #73 from JoeUser Forums Top
So.. I don't see where I contradict myself. I


Show me where I said contradict? I said be more specific! You made an idiotic blanklet statement that you later clarified. Notice, I only said "be more specific", not that you were contradicting yourself.
Reply #74 from JoeUser Forums Top
You did not say that


there. You clearly state that I did not said what I just said. which is why I don't follow you.
Reply #75 from JoeUser Forums Top
You do not shoot him because he violated the law, but because you have to protect people.


You did not say that


there. You clearly state that I did not said what I just said. which is why I don't follow you.


See the first quoted statement? See Response #66? Find it there?

That is why I made the second quoted statement.