Read the Full Iraq NIE, Not the "Opinion" Pieces

I read the NIE and it is in total Agreement with what I posted;



KEY FINDINGS From the NIE you posted:



"Level of overall violence including attacks and casualties among civilians remains high.



Iraqi sectarian groups remain unreconciled.



AQI retains the ability to conduct high profile attacks.



Iraqi political leaders remain unable to govern.



Fundamental structural problems continue to prevent progress in economic growth and living conditions.



Iraqi government will continue to struggle to achieve national level political reconciliation."



Everything that has been taking place continues and the prospect for change does not, in the opinion of the NIE, have any real prospect to be resolved!



As I said NO GOOD PROSPECT FOR A SOLUTION IN IRAQ!

NIE Report Says NO GOOD OPTIONS IN IRAQ!

By COL Gene
Posted Friday, August 24, 2007 on Bush Truth
Discussion: Politics




The NIE clearly depicts a paralyzed Iraqi Government unable to take advantage of the American sacrifice the Surge has provided. Although there have been some security gains from our increased military in Iraq, the overall violence has not materially reduced the numbers of dead and injured. In addition after over 4 years of training the Iraqi Military and Police, still can not operate without our help.

The Report also said that the outlook for the Iraqi Government to be able to deal with the political issues that are causing the sectarian violence will get worse in the next year. The report also said that our withdrawal will most likely increase the level of sectarian fighting.

Thus, our continued occupation and sacrifice is not likely to provide Iraq opportunity to become stable and if we leave fighting will get worse. We can continue the death and injury of American troops while the Iraqi Government becomes even less able to govern or get out and allow the Iraqis to fight it out to control Iraq.

I vote for allowing the Iraqi People to deal with the issue and bring our troops home!

thats funny i can't get the link to work for me

It worked fine for me. It took me to the NIE report!

You mean there is more in the NIE than the LIEs that the Clueless One refers to above and in his latest lunatic rantings?!?

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of course not those ten sentences are all there are to that report.

There are prospects for a solution, but your problem is you are invested in defeat just as your fellow democrats.





http://news.yahoo.com/s/weeklystandard/20070824/cm_weeklystandard/whattheniereallysays

The main conclusions of the document is clear: the strategy inaugurated in January 2007 has improved security in Iraq and will continue to do so; the development of grassroots movements within the Sunni Arab community focused on fighting al Qaeda in Iraq is an extremely important and positive development;

e document itself is nevertheless weak. It significantly downplays important developments in Iraq on both the political and the military fronts. The NIE minimizes the efforts of the Iraqi Security Forces by focusing too heavily on the question of their ability to operate independently. It mentions only two significant ISF operations, both in Baghdad (although it notes that the ISF has met its goals for deployment of units in support of the Baghdad Security Plan, which was a Congressional benchmark), but ignores the following important activities undertaken by Iraqi Army units in recent months:


* The 8th Iraqi Army division in Diwaniyah planning and conducting large-scale operations against JAM militias with relatively little coalition support;


* The 10th IA division in Nasiriyah doing similar things;


* The 5th IA division in Diyala conducting operations together with U.S. forces in the provinces against both AQI and JAM;


* Two IA divisions and around 20k Iraqi police have been working with a little over 5,000 U.S. soldiers in all of Ninewah province, an area that includes Mosul (1.8 million people) and has been subjected to repeated AQI attacks;


* Two IA divisions have been working closely with Marine and Army forces against AQI in Anbar.



i don't know but i think that this shows the iraqi army(ia)is starting to stand on its own two feet.

sorry island dog but that two tongued fork tonged gene wouldn't have gone there to read it.

Critics of the current strategy can use parts of the NIE to raise concerns about the political process in Iraq. Using those concerns to justify abandoning the current strategy, as the NIE itself clearly states, will jeopardize the enormous progress already made against al Qaeda in Iraq, which remains a potent threat that could reconstitute itself rapidly if we lifted the pressure from it. The fact that we have achieved a great deal without yet achieving all of our objectives is not grounds for abandoning a successful strategy. It is grounds for continuing it.

Let's see - do we read the lying Col Klink?  Or the actual report?  Decisions, decisions.   Will try to get to it soon.