Rules of Engagement Allow Incursion into Pakistan


When I suggested we should peruse al-Qaeda into the border regions of Pakistan, some on Joe User were critical of my suggestion. When Sen. Barack Obama suggested the same thing Republicans were critical of his suggestion.

Guess what—that has been the written policy of the Bush Administration since 2004. That policy came to light as part of the over 1,100 pages of documents that were part of the Tillman investigation. Our policy since 2004 says that certain elite units can enter Pakistan without notifying the Government of Pakistan under the following three situations:

Hot Pursuit of al-Qaeda, Taliban and terrorist command and control targets.





If CENTCOM approves to take action against bin Laden, al-Zawahiri or Mullah Omar.





If the Secretary of Defense approves incursion.




I will accept all apologies from the Joe Users that blasted me for my suggestion.
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I will accept all apologies from the Joe Users that blasted me for my suggestion.


You are certainly full of yourself gene.  All you have done is criticize Bush and him fighting terrorism, now you want to justify your "plan" (laughing), and defend Obama (no surprise as he's a democrat) using a Bush policy.

Let's apply your same liberal talking points to your "plan".

  1. It will make muslims more "mad", making us less safe.
  2. Pakistan was not behind Sept. 11
  3. It will be used as a recruiting tool
LOL.  You are a joke.
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Reply By: Island Dog Posted: Friday, August 24, 2007
“I will accept all apologies from the Joe Users that blasted me for my suggestion.


You are certainly full of yourself gene. All you have done is criticize Bush and him fighting terrorism, now you want to justify your "plan" (laughing), and defend Obama (no surprise as he's a democrat) using a Bush policy.”

I did not criticize Bush for fighting terrorism. I was critical of Bush when he diverted our military into invading Iraq which when we invaded HAD NOTHING to do with the fight on Terrorism.YOU ARE THE JOKE!

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I did not criticize Bush for fighting terrorism. I was critical of Bush when he diverted our military into invading Iraq which when we invaded HAD NOTHING to do with the fight on Terrorism.YOU ARE THE JOKE!


LOL.  You have not been critical of Bush fighting terrorism.....LMAO!!!!


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and i still say that you would invade an ally. which will what make the rest of the world trust us.
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Hot Pursuit of al-Qaeda, Taliban and terrorist command and control targets.





If CENTCOM approves to take action against bin Laden, al-Zawahiri or Mullah Omar.





If the Secretary of Defense approves incursion.




non of these reasons where the ones you gave. you said you would invade pakistan because that is where they are.
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Hot Pursuit of al-Qaeda, Taliban and terrorist command and control targets.


Definition of hot pursuit - Hot Pursuit is the chasing of a suspect when they escape the scene of crime or flees away to avoid legal actions from Law enforcement authority. In Hot Pursuit a suspect can be arrested even without a warrant.

Now here's the kicker, in your own article you kill your own argument:


If CENTCOM approves to take action against bin Laden, al-Zawahiri or Mullah Omar.

If the Secretary of Defense approves incursion.


You see those 2 if's in those to lines? Can you figure out that if we do have these polices why have they not been used? Just because we write it in a policy doesn't mean we can just go into a country that is our ally that told us not to go in because they will handle the problem.

You know you really are a hypocrite. While in one way you claim that we did not have the right to enter Iraq you are now suggesting we enter Pakistan who by your own logic we have no right to invade.

I will accept all apologies from the Joe Users that blasted me for my suggestion.


Here, my apology is on my lower back, butt (pun intended) you gotta kiss it if you wanna get it.

No seriously, I apologize. I apologize to all those who served under "Col" gene's military joke of a service. I apologize that the US Armed Forces failed to weed out garbage like him. I apologize to all Americans who wasted their money on his book(s). I apologize to his family for their blood connection to him.
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Reply By: Island Dog Posted: Friday, August 24, 2007
I did not criticize Bush for fighting terrorism. I was critical of Bush when he diverted our military into invading Iraq which when we invaded HAD NOTHING to do with the fight on Terrorism.YOU ARE THE JOKE!


". You have not been critical of Bush fighting terrorism.....LMAO!!!!"

SHOW ME WHERE I DID THAT! You are a LIAR!
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"You see those 2 if's in those to lines? Can you figure out that if we do have these polices why have they not been used? "

GOOD Question. We allowed al-Qaeda to organize in Pakistan and continue to plan attacks on our country! ASK the Commander-in-Chief!

Reply By: CharlesCS1
Posted: Friday, August 24, 2007
"Hot Pursuit of al-Qaeda, Taliban and terrorist command and control targets.


Definition of hot pursuit - Hot Pursuit is the chasing of a suspect when they escape the scene of crime or flees away to avoid legal actions from Law enforcement authority. In Hot Pursuit a suspect can be arrested even without a warrant.

Now here's the kicker, in your own article you kill your own argument:

If CENTCOM approves to take action against bin Laden, al-Zawahiri or Mullah Omar.

If the Secretary of Defense approves incursion.


You see those 2 if's in those to lines? Can you figure out that if we do have these polices why have they not been used? Just because we write it in a policy doesn't mean we can just go into a country that is our ally that told us not to go in because they will handle the problem.

You know you really are a hypocrite. While in one way you claim that we did not have the right to enter Iraq you are now suggesting we enter Pakistan who by your own logic we have no right to invade.
I will accept all apologies from the Joe Users that blasted me for my suggestion.


Here, my apology is on my lower back, butt (pun intended) you gotta kiss it if you wanna get it.

No seriously, I apologize. I apologize to all those who served under "Col" gene's military joke of a service. I apologize that the US Armed Forces failed to weed out garbage like him. I apologize to all Americans who wasted their money on his book(s). I apologize to his family for their blood connection to him."

THERE IS NO EXCUSE OR APPOLIGY FOE THE LIKES OF YOU!
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GOOD Question. We allowed al-Qaeda to organize in Pakistan and continue to plan attacks on our country! ASK the Commander-in-Chief!


Again you prove your stupidity. We did not allow anything, the Pakistani Gov't allowed this. They are our allies and they asked us to let them handle Al-qaeda and we did. So they haven't done a good job at it, should we have invaded an ally's country after being asked not to? Now you're just being a jerk. We do not control Pakistan, we do not tell Pakistan what to do, we do not invade allies. You really are stupid aren't you. You base you opinions on emotions. You're probably one of those people who would ask for capital murder to a suspect who is believed to have killed someone you love without a trial. Facts mean nothing to you, they are just tools to spread your BS to the world. You don't deserve the space given to you ion this website. You should be thankful you have the right to be stupid.

THERE IS NO EXCUSE OR APPOLIGY FOE THE LIKES OF YOU!


If this is the best you can reply then your article has no legs left to stand on. This article should be closed cause you failed, again, to prove anything.
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You should be thankful you have the right to be stupid.


and thankful that those troops in iraq and afghanistan are fighting for you to keep that right
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SHOW ME WHERE I DID THAT! You are a LIER!


If you are going to call me a liar, at least have the decency to spell it right. 

You have criticized Bush for his handling of terrorism many times, do you not even read what  you write?

I see you fail to acknowledge your own liberal talking points.  According to your past logic, attacking or operating in Pakistan will:
  1. It will make muslims more "mad", making us less safe.
  2. Pakistan was not behind Sept. 11
  3. It will be used as a recruiting tool
The only difference here is that a democrat, Obama, has proposed this so as usual you have to let a democrat pass.





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If this is the best you can reply then your article has no legs left to stand on. This article should be closed cause you failed, again, to prove anything.

The Rules I sighted are directly from the Pentagon and are the policy of the Bush Administration. This is JUST what I said should be our policy before I knew of the existing policy. I have not failed at all you spout BS that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. I guess you are saying that the reports about the existing Rules on Engagement are false!
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SHOW ME WHERE I DID THAT! You are a LIER!


LOL, I remember the other day he made fun of me for spelling "lier" and here he is spelling the word wrong himself. Of course he corrected it. LOL.
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This is JUST what I said should be our policy before I knew of the existing policy.


That's funny, you are actually saying one of Bush's policies are good? I must have stumbled onto another Col gene blog. One who is actually smart for a change.

I have not failed at all you spout BS that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.


No, wait, I'm wrong. Same Col, same bull crap.

I spout BS that has nothing to do with the issue? You were the one who brought the Iraq war into several articles that have nothing to do with Iraq. You're the one who brings Bush into things that have nothing to do with him. The only one around here who spouts BS is you. Especially when you don't have much to fight back with.

I guess you are saying that the reports about the existing Rules on Engagement are false!


No you moron, even a child could see I never said that. I said that even though they exist, they have not been used because there is no reason to do so. Again, Pakistan asked not to cross the borders that they would handle it. We, as good allies that we are, have followed their wishes. Just because the Secretary of Defense has the power to approve incursions doesn't mean they have to use that power. You said that yourself about Bush using some of his powers such as his veto power. You're trying to be slick about this contradicting yourself and hoping no one notices. But you are messing with the master of lies. You can't let one get by me buddy.
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i can not say anything about this.

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I think the col is suffering from the early onset of "Alzheimer's"!
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No apologies here and you if you support Pakistan harboring Bin Laden with no recourse then you should have been in the towers six years ago!

The more I read of your filth the more I am glad I never had the horror of serving with you as my commander. Thank heavens you were never called on to lead troops into battle, you probably would have made a deal with the enemy and laughed while your men were slaughtered.

In Korea the UN allowed Chinese and North Korean troops to find refuge over the border. In Vietnam people like you protested when our troops broke the lame laws and refused to allow the enemy to hide over the border. Now you sit and whine like Bin Laden's butt buddy when you find out that in very limited and specific situations our troops can give chase instead of be picked off from across the border.

They say that those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it... sickos like you do know history, but demand we repeat it anyway.

Gene, just let your sorry carcass rot like the roadkill you are.
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But i do not have idea about it.

Thankyou,
Regards,
Pakistan Boy,

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