yes the crater energy crisis was bogus. this happened when i was 16 and ever time i heard about it i was laughing. because i knew at the time that 9 out of 10 oil wells in this country was capped. still are.





yes the there are too many doctors in the country. so people stopped wanting to be doctors.

if you have to many of something prices go down not up. if you have to many oranges then the prices on the fruit goes down.

if there are too many of something you don't get put on a waiting list to get that item. you know like two or three months before you can get your doc. appointment.

and i doubt that he increased anything but taxes.

because i knew at the time that 9 out of 10 oil wells in this country was capped. still are.

I said the same thing regarding the wells long time ago. However that doesnt mean we dont have a crisis. Capping the wells is a national security strategy .... both parties agree and know why it is done. that is another issue entirely. it seems that you are too young to remember the oil embargo in 1973. way before carter came to office.

and i doubt that he increased anything but taxes.

well, you can check your doubts, cant you? and of course, to you it seems all dems do is raise taxes.

guess you haven't been watching the news, the debates, or reading what gene posts.


no matter what they are talking about they want to raise taxes. even when they only want to return tax rates to what they were when bush took office. yes that is raising taxes. raise taxes and spend. fix anything no.



i was 10 then so no i guess i wouldn't remember nor would i have cared at the time.


but i know that we have the oil wells capped for that reason. that and two others. at the time it was because theirs was cheapper and better than ours. by the way we have more oil than the middle east. just not as good as theirs. this does not count alaska. or off shore drilling.

If that's your stance...then don't try to blame "this" on the president:




What has this to do with the GOP in general or GWB in person? And since when are "these" because of the GOP?



Neither the GOP, or the President doesn't run NASA nor does congress. All they do is provide funding. Katrina, while it may finish with the GOP it "starts" with the Gov of LA and the Mayor of N.O. (both of which are democrats btw). They were given fair warning about the storm ahead of time and did nothing. Also the GOP doesn't "run" the highway department.

Yes they did, or did you forget JFK was a democrat as was LBJ? From wikipedia:







And democrats were NOT responsible for civil rights. The REPUBLICANS were. As a matter of fact the "first" civil rights act was vetoed by a "Democratic" President Andrew Jackson. Go here and learn:
WWW Link

Rosa Parks (1955) did happen. And it happened under a REPUBLICAN president! Go look it up it was done by Dwight D Eisenhower and Richard Nixon
WWW Link

You just seem to be full of misguided history. I've provided links to all my assertions. I have yet to see you do so.

On final thought, and you are way to young to be able to answer this (dont worry, I did not peak - it shows in your maturity).

In the last 40 years, there has been but one 4 year term where Democrats ran everything.  Can you guess what term?

Carter.  Stagflation, malaise, and the sgtart of the S&L crises (yep!  It started in the 70s, not under Reagan).  So we get rid of the GOP and what do you get?  Incompetance, unemployment, inflation.  Yep!  We REALLY need that again.

But then we wont have to worry.  He was good also at surrendering, so someone else will have to worry about it when the Dems surrender to the terrorists.

All they do is provide funding

And set policies. and that makes all the difference.

And since when are "these" because of the GOP?

You can't deny that during GOP control, oversight by Gov. agencies and by Congress over Busn. and Gov. operations slows down and is relaxed to a great degree. That results in all kinds of problems.

It is a GOP principle that "nothing good" can come from Gov. regulations. this is confirmed whenever GOP takes control, at the WH or in Congress.

GOP is all about two things: NO taxes and No Gov. regulations.

well. if you do that, and GOP does that, Do you really expect anything else other than neglect and uncontrollable problems? It is a natural result of the faulty principles. btw, you can get the same result from over-taxing and over-regulations. and Dem. do that too sometimes. Not as often as GOP though.

Yes they did, or did you forget JFK was a democrat as was LBJ? From wikipedia:

ooh really? but who started it? is that what you guys are going to say about Iraq? get the country in a mess then leave it to Dem to try to fix the unfixable?

from 1954 to 1960 a GOP president got us involved in Vietnam. True, JFK and LBJ were not smart enough to pull out.

YOU know why they did that? to get the answer, go back to YOUR stand on Iraq NOW. you guys always say, Dem wanted USA to be defeated in IRAQ that is why they want to pull out. That same thing was said at the time of JFK and LBJ. In fact untill now, some of you still say we could have won Vietnam if it wasnt for stupid LBJ and Nixon cowardice .

You guys have great selective memories and masters of deceit and ignorant arrogance.

The REPUBLICANS were. As a matter of fact the "first" civil rights act was vetoed by a "Democratic" President Andrew Jackson

and you think the GOP of Jackson and Lincoln is the same as the current GOP?

well, old glories doesnt make up for recent actions and policies

Rosa Parks (1955) did happen. And it happened under a REPUBLICAN president! Go look it up it was done by Dwight D Eisenhower and Richard Nixon

of course, and what did he DO about it? nothing till JFK came in.

this is what is amazing about you guys. Half truths and incomplete data to spin the facts and confuse the issue.

for 6 years after Rosa park and Brown Vs Dep of Ed nothing happens, no laws to correct the problems, no response to the fire in the country.

and what good any link would do? you will dismiss it as "inane".

It is really sooooo amazing that you guys are trying to disbute an obvious fact.

come out of it. i know you are all smart and clever and soo good at links and getting the REAL TRUTH (your truth) not from the Evil MSM, but from your OWN very selective and high-minded sources .... like Fox news.

The Emperor Has No Clothes and every one on the planet knows it. His nakedness cant be covered with spin and deceit. keep that in mind.

Keep believing that the democrats are any different than the republicans. dream on! Both parties are concerned with one thing and one thing only. POWER. They can give less that a single frack about you Mr think aloud or me. But you just keep believing that the Democrats will solve all the problems of America, then you too can be as disappointed with the Democrats as I am with the Republicans.

you are way to young to be able to answer this

i wish you were right. But guess what? wrong again.

You cant even guess that right.

Carter. Stagflation, malaise, and the sgtart of the S&L crises (yep! It started in the 70s, not under Reagan).

Vietnam started by JFK and S&L started by Carter ...... and stagflation as a result of oil price inflation which started in 1973 is also by Carter

great spin. pull history back and forth to suit false arguments. I said you guys are masters of deceit. no question about that.

no coherent principles in arguing. just spin the facts to suit the moment.

Keep believing that the democrats are any different than the republicans. dream on! Both parties are concerned with one thing and one thing only. POWER. They can give less that a single frack about you Mr think aloud or me

I agree with that fully Mr. MM

I wish you keep that in mind. But what i noticed is a continuous uninterrupted stream of Dem bashing and ridicule. so i wanted to show the trend in what happens when GOP takes control. That doesnt mean Dem are faultless or even good. they are just less bad. But i agree 100% with your above statement.

Now can you get any wise smart conservative to say that? You see how they defend the indefensible. It is a shame that people can be that partisan. the country is in big trouble and all the worry about their darling GWB.

Loyalty is an admirable virtue but not if it hurts the country and the people.

"they are just less bad."

I think they're equally bad.

YOU nailed it, Mr think aloud is wrong, The Democrats are not less bad, they both suck equally. 50/50 they just suck differently. kind of like a whore that blows you on one knee and one that blows you on both knees, same result different technique.

It's all in an objective point of view.  Both parties suck, but democrats and their weakness on terrorism and their social views make them "more bad" to me. 

Of course someone who believes we should have income redistribution, and treat terrorism as a law enforcement problem will probably think the other way.

actually JFK and his brother were killed because they wouldn't start Vietnam.

don't let any one tell you otherwise because of all the theory only one benefited from their deaths.

JFK was about to pull those advisories out of Vietnam. when his brother won the Whitehorse he was going to do what him brother was doing. Johnson on the other hand had decided to play ball.


Nixon pulled the troops out of Vietnam. this is what he did wrong. we were never supposed to win that war. we were using it for weapons testing.

All I got from this article was 2 things, according to TA:

1) For the past 26 years most Americans have been stupid since the GOP was in control most of this time or did not make all the houses Democrats when they had the chance.

2) Any fact about history that does not coincide with TA's understanding of history is spinning or twisting the facts.

The fact that I am stupid and will twist any facts (according to TA) to contradict him are enough reasons for me to not even bother debating. This article was not meant to be debated, it was meant to be accepted no questions asked. No its, ands, or buts about it. TA is the smartest on this article and no one can beat him. Why even bother allowing replies if you were never gonna accept any information contradictory to yours. This is more proof for me that Democrats never wanna lose because compromise is not a word in their dictionary.

Based on how you have expressed yourself in this non-debate, I would suggest (only a suggestion) that you stay on the side lines from now on.

Why even bother allowing replies if you were never gonna accept any information contradictory to yours.

i will gladly accept that if you provide any. look at the above comments:

JFK started Vietnam .....
GOP passed the Civil rights laws ....
Dem just raise taxes .....
and Carter is responsible for the oil embargo and the inflation that followed. .....

are these the facts that you want me to accept?

and i am the smartest???? not even close

I will be glad if i am just not a fool to accept false information. provide correct information and i will be the first to accept it. half truths and fact spinning are not correct information.

The Democrats are not less bad, they both suck equally

You know MM, that is exactly the genius of the GOP strategists. They get most voters to believe that. then they turn around and say we are better on defense. People really buy that. All the facts and history provide ample evidence to the contrary.

Tell me ONE thing the GOP did in the last 75 years that put this country way ahead of other nations or made it fairer to all citizens. Just one. All GOP actions were and still are to undo what the Dem did. you can call it negative governing.

For GOP, the Gov is the problem and not a force that should be used for doing good. Does anyone deny that this IS the GOP main policy?

how then can you say they are equally bad? the Dem's policy is that Gov should be a force used for the good of the people. They dont usually achieve that in a good way. but they achieve some good.

On the other hand, by definition, the GOP tries to take the Gov out of play completely and leave it to each individual to fend for him/her self.

The rich and powerful of course are able to live with that. they can manage without a Gov. Most of citizens cant do that. they get lost in the process and they lose grounds .

These are the basic policy of both parties. one have good intentions, but not always smart execution. the other get-gov-off-your-back and do-nothing policy.

i dont see both ways as equally bad.

but democrats and their weakness on terrorism and their social views make them "more bad" to me.

How exactly are they weak on terrorism?

Because they say the terror base was and still is in Afghanistan and not in Iraq? Because they say terrorism shouldnt make us lose our rights and privacy? because they say a war is no excuse for dictatorship at home? because they say Iraq is a civil war and we should not win it for either side. if we do, the loser will automatically be our enemy. why not leave it to them to settle on THEIR OWN terms. the loser cant blame us and the winner, even if it is not what we want, will be very careful before being against us. Why would the winner be against us? even if they are friends with Iran, they wont be our enemy. we made it possible for them to win. they will never forget that. If they do, we can always remind them .... militarily that is.

In the meantime we can concentrate on the real terror in Afghanistan and elsewhere. Just excatly how is that being weak?

care to explain?

Because they believe terrorism is a law enforcement problem, they give terrorists the same "victim" treatment as they do criminals in the U.S.  They believe terrorists should have full rights and access to our civil court system as a citizen does.  I can go on and on, but terrorism and defense is not something that's strong for democrats.




LOL.  There is no dictatorship at "home", not even close.  If this is stuff you actually believe, well then....




We are already in Afghanistan. 

You see the response the top canidates are getting being "warmongers" with regards to Pakistan, they have already upset their left loony base. 

not to mention the right loony base.