Another fine example of short-sighted NIMBY-ism

Watch the revenue go to your neighbors....

I've had discussions on the topic of slots and casino gambling in the fine old state of Mary-land with the husband of a now former co-worker.  He's an intelligent individual, somewhat moderate thinker, though I believe is perhaps more towards the left of moderate on some issues.

He has taken the stance that casino gambling is not something he wants to see, for reasons I'm going to add in paraphrased quotes below as I argue some of the points.

The discussion below is somewhat inspired by my having forwarded the link to this article: States {bordering/neighboring Maryland} cash in on slots, report finds to this fine gentleman over the last 24 hours.  Knowing that this gentleman is a great reader of information, I expected to inspire some discussion, and it seems to have done so.  So, here is where I'm bringing the discussion to, with my rebuttal below for others to read and comment on as well.

As noted in my editing of the original headline, the article that I linked to is in reference to the amount of money (a veritable gold mine) that has been leaving the fine Old Line State and instead has found its way into the state treasuries of Delaware, West Virginia and Pennsylvania.

In case it is not clear to readers, I have been a proponent of legalized and regulated slots gambling in the state of Maryland for several years now. In anycase, read on for more discussion.

Thanks for the article. I have very strong feelings on this issue. You may definitely disagree. I don't mind slots in Maryland...however, I DO NOT want them in PG County. And I know that's where they'll end up if they are legalized.

My response: Ah, so you just don't want them in *your* area.  NIMBY-ism at it's best, or is that worst?

... continued in the comments area. Please continue there for the rest of this discussion.

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Thanks for continuing here. I hope you enjoy the rest of this discussion and can perhaps add something to it below.

I guess I need to remind this individual that the areas he is concerned with, mentioned in this next quote:

Some private company has already bought the Roscroft racetrack in PG and also the National Harbor is opening in PG. Both are about 2 or 3 miles from each other. If one gets slots, it's inevitable that other will follow suit shortly therafter.

... are clear at the other end of the county he lives in. 20+ miles away from where he lives. With a host of other crime troubled areas (which he actually acknowledges in a bit) between where he lives and where this legalized gambling would take place at.  Areas such as the one his wife works in or near that are known as some of the most dangerous areas of the state of Maryland, with drug-dens, prostitution to help fund drug habits, meth labs, numbers running (oops, that would be illegal gambling), and a host of other problems that already make the areas completely undesirable and already bring down the value of homes in the surrounding areas, as well as very negatively impacting the school systems in the county thanks to youth that looks for the easy way to make money and get the glamourous tennis shoes and other worldly possessions that youth want.

I hesitate to count and consider the number of problem areas between where this friend's home is, and where these gambling halls might be allowed at, but I know there are many of them. There are some problem areas quite literally just a few miles from these folks home. Exit on to the main roadway from where they live, head towards D.C. and go towards Palmer Park, or Landover Hills, or a few other areas and enjoy the fun -- NOT!

Anyway, my friend had continued:

This will result in higher crime (if that's even possible), higher bankruptcy for people (primarily low income latino's and blacks and seniors) who should never be gambling in the first place. It's tantamount to an unfair tax on the poor.

... which is where he notes that the county already has a tremendous crime problem.  Continued (the crime problem) in part because there just isn't enough money to fund the necessary law enforcement efforts, and not enough money to help improve the school systems, and definitely not enough money out there to beat sense into the parents in the county that let their children become hoodlums because they just don't care about escaping the cycle and helping their family to a better life, at least not if there is work involved.

But that is a different issue entirely (the issue of people that always seek the easy way, refusing to work, hoping to hit the lottery, etc.)

I guess it circles back around into my own point though, which is that if people are stupid enough to be gambling their money away, which the original article already points out is true (except that these people are spending even more money to go out of state to gamble!), then I have absolutely no qualms about letting the state take that money from those people.  Some of that money should be spent on anti-gambling or gambling-education and debt-management/money-management education for sure, and hopefully it would help educate people to avoid falling into the traps of gambling to begin with, but again it's not my problem if people are too stupid to not do something they know is taking advantage of them.

What is my problem is the idea that at least $150 million is leaving my home state and flying into the neighboring states to help pay for their school systems, their law enforcement activities, etc., helping to leave my state short of funding to cover these needs and others, and leaving me responsible for paying for these items when I shouldn't have to.  Yeah, I know, that is my being selfish which is precisely what NIMBYism is.  So sue me.

My friend continues:

All the other counties (Montgomery, Howard, Charles, etc.) want slots soooo badly because they know they won't have to worry about them being in their county.

I would answer here, uh, Howard County has race tracks and/or closely borders Laurel Raceway and would be directly affected if crime did increase in the area, but the idea of crime increasing in the area is a false argument (which my friend uses again in a bit...)

People argue that crime would increase, but that is not necessarily the case. Given the situation in much of Prince Georges County, it is really hard to imagine that would even be possible.  Arguing that perhaps some people would turn to crime to fuel a gambling habit is perhaps supportable with research and statistics, but I would still doubt the numbers as there is absolutely no proof that the individuals that participate in crime to fuel a gambling addiction aren't already or wouldn't already be inclined to be criminals that are doing crimes to pay for other addictions or habits.

More from my friend:

Just look at Atlantic City. Do you think the surrounding communities therre are benefitting from the gambling mecca that Trump built? They are filthy, rundown, and severely crime infested communities. They were hoodwinked by fast talking politicians that promised them a signifcant piece of the gambling revenues.

Something tells me that my friend hasn't been near Atlantic City and hasn't driven in the areas around there as he is spouting off absolute crap here.  I am not a gambler, but I have been to Atlantic City and have driven in the surrounding areas and around the town.  Atlantic City and it's surrounding areas are really no different than Ocean City, Maryland, or Fenwick Beach, Delaware, or Virginia Beach, Virginia.  The streets are safe, and the areas around the town are what they are, older surburbs of a beach town.  For many of these areas, they may be somewhat run-down, and they may not have seen the urban renewal that was supposed to have been a benefit of allowing legalized gambling, but that isn't the fault of the casinos.  In many cases it is the fault of people refusing to leave their homes in favor of selling out to developers, and developers that don't want to come into an area unless they can be assured that they can buy enough of an area to build-up and create a renewed area that will return their investment.

There are several nice areas that are 'new' around Atlantic City.  Areas that were built after gambling returned to Atlantic City.  Areas that would certainly not exist and/or wouldn't be as valuable if not for the money that Atlantic City has fed into the state coffers that has helped keep taxes lower in other areas.

And the final thoughts from my friend:

If I were living in another county, I would probably have a different stance on this issue, but I don't have that luxury. I can't and won't allow Maryland state to fix it's poor economic planning on the back of PG County's future. We can't be dumping ground for the state.

Ah, so we get back to the admission that this is all about you, you, you, my friend.  NIMBY-ism.  Short-sighted NIMBY-ism.  Concerns over what happens 20+ miles away from you, while ignoring the more direct needs that could be taken care of with the money that might be generated and kept in state here.  Money that would help your more immediate back-yard if it was spent on improving the schools in your area.  Schools you already deem so inadequate that you can't possibly send your child to them and instead pay thousands of dollars in private school tuition for even as you also pay very burdensome property taxes that cause your household problems in keeping enough income coming in to afford other luxuries (like cable TV, which I know isn't a necessity, but is a staple in most homes).

It hasn't been that long ago that my friend's wife was a co-worker.  A co-worker I really enjoyed working with.  One that I wrote a good-bye for in a prior article.  One I was very sad to see leaving my work-place and going on to greener pastures.  Greener because her family really needed that additional income to handle the costs of their new home.  A home that my friend has basically said would be the last one he would buy in PG County given the crime situation, the education situation, etc.

There were other reasons (that I very much respect) that my co-worker left, but a big reason was flat-out money.  I hate to think that the short-sightedness of my friend is part of the reason that was the case, but I have to think that if they weren't being asked to pay so much in state income taxes, and other taxes, perhaps their financial situation would have been better.  If the school system in their area was better, then, again, they'd be thousands of dollars to the good and could actually be putting those thousands of dollars into education trust funds that could go towards paying for the future College education of their very bright eldest child.

There's also the idea that within a few years their youngest will be headed off to school, and he too will likely be going to private school as the school systems in PG County probably won't improve much in the next few years, especially given the fact that Maryland can't find all of the money that they have commited, or should I say were supposed to have commited towards education, and PG County continues to have to find money to spend on solving crimes in the neighborhoods between the horse racing tracks and where my friends live.

Yup, pretty short-sighted from my perspective.

Other opinions welcomed though, so please feel free to speak up below.