Want Welfare? Work for it!

Unskilled Jobs that need to be done

from JoeUser Forums

I have grown exhausted with third and fourth generation welfare recipients, doing nothing to get the money and medical services provided on the backs of Taxpayers, below are a few constructive ideas on how the Welfare folks can get their money while providing valuable service to the American communities everywhere.

The highways are in constant need of roadside cleaning, it is a never ending job. Same with smaller roads, here between where I live and Vacaville is a long stretch on road that cuts through nothing but farmland, it is used as a dumping ground for major appliances, such as washing machines, dryers, refrigerators, ovens, also heavy furniture, couches, chairs and the like.

The areas around waterways, rivers, lakes, sluices. These areas are in constant need of cleaning from left over beer bottles, wrappers, soda cans I am sure you have all seen this mess if you have ever went out doors to any kind of water way. Same thing, another never ending job.

Firebreaks need to be mowed along the highways to prevent cigarette throwers from damaging peoples property, there is a state law here in California that you must leave a six foot break that borders the highways, but the highways themselves are overgrown with dead weeds and other combustibles. In high wild fire areas, this is another never ending job.

The forests that HAVE NOT had a fire in the last decade or so is full of fuel, dead branches, leaves, dead trees on and on, these places need to be cleaned of their fuel for fires, lessening the burden on our already overworked fire-fighters.

Can anyone else come up with Unskilled labor for welfare recipients? The jobs must have a useful purpose and Should not allow anyone to make money off of their work.

 

 

 

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Park clean-up.
Building wall along border.
Hand out Welfare checks.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Can anyone else come up with Unskilled labor for welfare recipients? The jobs must have a useful purpose and Should not allow anyone to make money off of their work.


I'm not disagreeing with your points here, but as I said in the other thread, if these people are able enough to do community service, then they are able enough to get a job and get off the system.




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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well, that's what we're doing. We're doing away with the system where they CAN'T work and hiring them as temporary government workers, aren't we?
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
(Citizen)JythierAugust 6, 2007 13:54:32


Park clean-up.
Building wall along border.
Hand out Welfare checks.


I like the building the wall part. a whole bunch, imagine the decrease in cost?
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
(Citizen)Island DogAugust 6, 2007 13:57:44


Can anyone else come up with Unskilled labor for welfare recipients? The jobs must have a useful purpose and Should not allow anyone to make money off of their work.


I'm not disagreeing with your points here, but as I said in the other thread, if these people are able enough to do community service, then they are able enough to get a job and get off the system.


I think that is part of my point, once they see they are going to have to work for their money, they will want to work at a better paying job. No more freeloading.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
(Citizen)JythierAugust 6, 2007 14:06:11


Well, that's what we're doing. We're doing away with the system where they CAN'T work and hiring them as temporary government workers, aren't we?


Yes I had not thought of it in that way, good pointing out!!
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
I like the idea, but I think it has been proposed before.  And shot down.  The left decrying it as slave labor or some such heated rhetoric.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Oh dear, working for your money is slave labor. Well, it might be slave labor, but they're not OWNED. They can still go out and do something else. Or they can do nothing, and starve.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
(Citizen)Dr GuyAugust 7, 2007 15:17:14


like the idea, but I think it has been proposed before. And shot down. The left decrying it as slave labor or some such heated rhetoric.


The Democrats are experts on slave labor since they fought so hard to deny Blacks any rights at all. It is a good Idea and should be the law, want government {taxpayer} monies and free heralth services, work for it damn it just like everyone else does.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
JythierAugust 7, 2007 15:20:51


Oh dear, working for your money is slave labor. Well, it might be slave labor, but they're not OWNED. They can still go out and do something else. Or they can do nothing, and starve.


But indeed they are OWNED by the Democratic party, why do you think so many of the poor vote Democrat? because they want that free money to keep on coming.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
For shame MM! People actually earning their money? What's next? Blaming the criminals for the crime?
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: MasonMPosted: Tuesday, August 07, 2007
For shame MM! People actually earning their money? What's next? Blaming the criminals for the crime?

Yeh what was I thinking? Next thing someone will want politicians to actually do something for the country instead of being the self serving motherfuckers they are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Next thing someone will want politicians to actually do something for the country instead of being the self serving motherfuckers they are.


Now you're just being silly.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
MasonMAugust 7, 2007 20:02:30


Next thing someone will want politicians to actually do something for the country instead of being the self serving motherfuckers they are.


Now you're just being silly.


yeh I guess I am asking for too much.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
I guess to avoid the "slave labor" decry, I would say that they can do any job that their abilities allow them. Since in a sense people would see these ideas you proposed as forcing people to do jobs they may normally refuse to do for what ever reason. Maybe trying to base the job placement on what they are capable (skill) of doing can help make it easier to get them working for this money. This is what I mean.

How's about basing the welfare system for those physically capable of working by trying to place them in a qualified job position. They can start giving them the money once they are approved and begin the search, kinda like a temp agency, pay the people the welfare wage until the person can either become permanent or find another job somewhere else. The Gov't can make some kind of beneficial deal with Temp Agencies and businesses that are willing to have welfare people for a certain amount of time till they are either hired permanently or they find another job. This way we can bring down the number of people not working while collecting welfare, the unemployment rate could get lower and these people are given a chance to earn their own living and eventually set themselves free of the Gov't which should be every applicants goal and that of the Gov't as well.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Building wall along border.
Hand out Welfare checks.


I like the building the wall part. a whole bunch, imagine the decrease in cost?


It's a bad idea, unfortunately. It would probably cost more to ship in unskilled workers, train them, house them and put them to work than it would to hire a few professional teams.

Construction is not an unskilled industry, especially construction of objects suitable for military purposes. Just imagine the compensation claims you'd pay out when the dole-bludgers muck up with the land mines.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
It's a bad idea, unfortunately. It would probably cost more to ship in unskilled workers, train them, house them and put them to work than it would to hire a few professional teams.


Well you gotta keep in mind that the whole project will not be based on only using unskilled workers. There will be Pros there as well. And really? How hard can it be to build a wall? And why not use the people who live in the cities near the border? I don't think the wall idea was necessarily based on bringing people from across the nation. But then you may be able to work out some deal with some kind of housing system that can bring some. Besides, who says these people who are on welfare are unskilled workers? I bet there are several of them that know about construction and won't need much training. Remember, not all those on welfare are unskilled uneducated people. Many simply find it easier to get the money and not work for it.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: CharlesCS1Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2007
I guess to avoid the "slave labor" decry, I would say that they can do any job that their abilities allow them. Since in a sense people would see these ideas you proposed as forcing people to do jobs they may normally refuse to do for what ever reason. Maybe trying to base the job placement on what they are capable (skill) of doing can help make it easier to get them working for this money. This is what I mean.

How's about basing the welfare system for those physically capable of working by trying to place them in a qualified job position. They can start giving them the money once they are approved and begin the search, kinda like a temp agency, pay the people the welfare wage until the person can either become permanent or find another job somewhere else. The Gov't can make some kind of beneficial deal with Temp Agencies and businesses that are willing to have welfare people for a certain amount of time till they are either hired permanently or they find another job. This way we can bring down the number of people not working while collecting welfare, the unemployment rate could get lower and these people are given a chance to earn their own living and eventually set themselves free of the Gov't which should be every applicants goal and that of the Gov't as well.

Great Ideas Charles, but like all great Idea this one has a huge roadblock in the way, it's called the democratic Party, I mean if these people work and start acquiring things they might become GASPPPPPPPPP republicans.

Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: cactoblastaPosted: Wednesday, August 08, 2007
Building wall along border.
Hand out Welfare checks.


I like the building the wall part. a whole bunch, imagine the decrease in cost?


It's a bad idea, unfortunately. It would probably cost more to ship in unskilled workers, train them, house them and put them to work than it would to hire a few professional teams.

Construction is not an unskilled industry, especially construction of objects suitable for military purposes. Just imagine the compensation claims you'd pay out when the dole-bludgers muck up with the land mines.

I am talking about the wall separating Mexico from America, making it harder for them to sneak across the border, No land mines, hmm although that is not a bad idea.

Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Mines would be a lot cheaper than building a wall.

Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
Seventy years ago it was workfare in reconstructing America.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
stevendedalusAugust 9, 2007 21:36:47


Seventy years ago it was workfare in reconstructing America.


could you elucidate please?
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
MasonMAugust 8, 2007 15:44:54


Mines would be a lot cheaper than building a wall.


yeh but all that left over grease would cause a ecological disaster.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top

Seventy years ago it was workfare in reconstructing America.


could you elucidate please?

FDR's alphabet soup.

Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
Great Ideas Charles, but like all great Idea this one has a huge roadblock in the way, it's called the democratic Party,


It only makes sense, instead of a system that gives money away and creates lazy people out of some of them, we can make it a temp agency welfare. You want money? Well give you money, we'll also place you in a job that matches your skills (based on contracts with businesses that want to use this). After say, 3 or 6 months the company hires you if you are accepted by the company and then you start earning a wage and get off welfare. If you fail, maybe a second try somewhere else. If that fails, you will have a 6 month wait till you can reapply and start the process again. This is, of course for people who are physically capable of performing jobs. If there are no positions that match your skills and then train them for jobs, educate them if you have to. I have no problem having my tax dollars used to pay for someones education on welfare if it will help them get a job and get them off of welfare eventually. It a be a better use of this welfare money. I don't mind helping those in need so long as the idea is to not stay on welfare permanently and are willing to become part of the work force, e it by the current skills they have or by being willing to acquire new ones. The goal in the end is to leave welfare ASAP.

I mean if these people work and start acquiring things they might become GASPPPPPPPPP republicans.


I would be embarrassed to be American if any party would actually prefer their voters to be uneducated and poor just so they can stay in their party. I have to admit that it really does look that way.