Minn Bridge problems Bush fault, no, Clinton! no, Bush!

How about NONE OF THE ABOVE?

Ding! Ding! Ding!  NONE OF THE ABOVE is the right answer.

It took almost no time for the clueless one to come out with an article blaming the Minnesota bridge collapse disaster primarily on the Bush administration.  I don't even have to have read the article on the subject to know what it said, as that one-note wonder doesn't know anything except 'Blame Bush.'

The only problem for the clueless one, and people like him, that want to 'Blame Bush' is that he may be blaming the wrong Bush, or should I say, may have ignored blame that belonged at the feet of George H.W. Bush, and later Bill Clinton, and then later still George W. Bush.

What am I talking about?

How about this news: Minn. Bridge Problems Uncovered in 1990

How about specifically this part:


Minnesota officials were warned as early as 1990 that the bridge that plummeted into the Mississippi River was "structurally deficient," yet they relied on a strategy of patchwork fixes and stepped-up inspections.

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In 1990, the federal government gave the I-35W bridge a rating of "structurally deficient," citing significant corrosion in its bearings. That made it one of 77,000 bridges in that category nationwide, 1,160 in Minnesota alone.

The designation means some portions of the bridge needed to be scheduled for repair or replacement, and it was on a schedule for inspection every two years.

During the 1990s, later inspections found fatigue cracks and corrosion in the steel around the bridge's joints. Those problems were repaired. Starting in 1993, the state said, the bridge was inspected annually instead of every other year.

A 2005 federal inspection also rated the bridge structurally deficient, giving it a 50 on scale of 100 for structural stability.


... there's more in the original article, but please, read those dates and tell me who was President when the problems were first uncovered?  How about I make it easy for you -- there was George H.W. Bush initially, then later William Jefferson Clinton, and later still George W. Bush.

Here's the better question -- who controlled the governmental purse strings during that time?  Up and down the line please.  Don't just tell me who controlled the federal $$.  Tell me who controlled the state and local budgets too?

Would it be wrong of me to point out that many of the issues with this bridge and the need for repairs and such were happening during the period of time when the Bush tax-cuts didn't exist.  In fact, uh, the Bush tax increases (compliments of Mr. Read My Lips, No New Taxes) existed.  And then later, there were the Clinton tax rates and Democrat controls in the Department of Transportation -- the folks that help allocate all of that federal money to building bridges for Interstate highways.

Any fool can come along and tell us all that this is yet another example of the lack of spending on our own needs, and they can easily blame it all on the wasting of money spent over in Iraq.  It doesn't take a genius to point at a pile of money that is starting to equal the better part of a trillion dollars.

That is a lot of money, and yes, it could have bought many nice things back home here in the U.S.A. *if the government opted to actually spend it on those things*.  Things like better flood protection for New Orleans (that was an earlier cry by the clueless one and his ilk...), better road surfaces and better bridges, and a lot of other things.

It is also possible, but not bloody likely, that had there not been Bush tax-cuts, the feds might have had more money to spend on some of these things, even with the money we've spent on Iraq.  Sadly that thought is highly flawed too as it has been shown numerous times that tax-cuts lead to increased revenues for the federal government just about every time they've ever been implemented.  The clueless old liberal, and others that believe that Democrats are the answer, always ignore those facts though, and instead promise that the first thing they'll do is roll back tax-cuts that have poured a lot of money back into the federal bank accounts.  Perhaps these wannabe geniuses should try looking past the Democrat talking points, and rallying cries and maybe they'd learn just how wrong their bleeting really is.

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Oh, it gets even better as if you continue reading that original article, you hit the nugget that tells you that the bridge wouldn't have been targetted for replacement for another 13 years.

Ooops!

I wonder which President really gets the blame for it then?  Can someone really tell me who the President will be in 13 years?  We should be blaming them already.

Maybe somene can borrow Doc Brown's time machine and take a ride into the future and come back and tell us all who that will be.

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Sigh, sadly the entire infra structure of America needs some serious work, but as long as both parties keep stuffing their bank accounts and building tributes to themselves things like that will never get done.
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Sigh, sadly the entire infra structure of America needs some serious work, but as long as both parties keep stuffing their bank accounts and building tributes to themselves things like that will never get done.

This is very true, and I do wish that we'd spend a lot more fixing up the roadways in this country, but realistically, you are correct that it won't happen because for as long as the congress-critters can control the purse strings and dole out the cash slowly, we'll keep begging them to please, please, please go back to Washington, D.C. to send more money back home to us and our roadways.

I remember when an organization that called itself ARTBA (American Road and Transportation Builders Association, or similar) was celebrating the huge amount of money that Ronald Reagan and later George H.W. Bush was commited to spending thanks to major allocations of money done in Congress.   The amounts would now be considered a pittance.

Our roadways are handling traffic that is many times more than what they were designed for.  That includes our bridges, our neighborhood roads, etc.

We have too many people driving in this country -- including large numbers of illegals, but that is another rant -- and just plain don't have enough money coming into the goverment coffers to cover the rebuilding and building requirements.  Gasoline taxes are, I hate to say this, too low.  The amount of money collected in taxes on a gallon of gasoline are miniscule.  We should be raising these taxes with the money spent on roads and only roads, or at least on transportation, and only transportation.  Perhaps some could be spent on mass transit, and trying to get some more vehicles off the road ways, but regardless, we need more money for fixing the existing roads, and more money for building new roadways.

A side benefit of raising gasoline taxes would be that we'd probably have more consumers move out of their big SUVs and into little gas sipping vehicles.  Little gas sipping vehicles that weigh less and do less damage to the roadways when they are used.

I digress though, and really the point of this article was to say that anyone that believes the Bush administration is in any way to blame for the problems on our roadways is just letting their emotions get the best of them as they ignore the facts.

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lol....just because the first inspection that said the bridge was structually deficient was in 1990, that does not point fingers to Bush. A date does not point to any administration. In this case, that is when the first inspection mentioned any issues. This is the first time I have seen any mention of blaming a political party for this and I don't think I will see it again. This bridge was under the arms of MnDot. Also...being a interstate highway, a MAJOR interstate highway and a Major Bridge in Minneapolis...it would have been fixed much sooner than other potential issues out there IF people thought the issue was serious enough.
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Sigh, sadly the entire infra structure of America needs some serious work, but as long as both parties keep stuffing their bank accounts and building tributes to themselves things like that will never get done.


this is true
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This is the first time I have seen any mention of blaming a political party for this and I don't think I will see it again.

Apparently you've missed one of the latest articles from the one with the deficient genes, as the clueless wonder basically tried to put this square on the feet of the current President Bush (as he tries with each and every issue that could possibly come up.  It is *all* Bush's fault in the Clueless Old Liberal's world, so why break that streak and actually look at the problem as one that was caused by many, and not just one).

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Nothing in this country started to decompose prior to Bush coming to office. That's a scientific fact! As a matter of fact not a single blade of grass died in this country before GWB was born. He's the Antichrist and anyone who doesn't believe that is a damned heathen.
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Nothing in this country started to decompose prior to Bush coming to office. That's a scientific fact! As a matter of fact not a single blade of grass died in this country before GWB was born. He's the Antichrist and anyone who doesn't believe that is a damned heathen.


oh no its gene jr
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oh no its gene jr

Mason is just exercising a little sarcasm at the expense of he who lacks intelligence genes    Apparently the lack of the smileys may have confused some folks

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What I want to know is, in a nation called, "The United States of America" when and how did every problem facing every individual person in this country become the responsibility of the President?  It is mindless whining like ColGene's that creates the problem.  As long as people provide an easy scapegoat for everyone else in government, nothing will get fixed.
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Apparently you've missed one of the latest articles from the one with the deficient genes, as the clueless wonder basically tried to put this square on the feet of the current President Bush (as he tries with each and every issue that could possibly come up. It is *all* Bush's fault in the Clueless Old Liberal's world, so why break that streak and actually look at the problem as one that was caused by many, and not just one).

You dont even have to read the clueless one.  CNN is already pointing fingers - although they are not confining it to Bush - congress is getting some of the finger pointing as well.  Even though it is not the feds responsibility.  It is the states.

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. This is the first time I have seen any mention of blaming a political party for this and I don't think I will see it again.


I just love people who sucker themselves in a corner making it easier for others to sucker punch them.

I figure if you able to ignore this Link you may actually be able to claim to think that you will not see it again.

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This is the only country where you can be the one mostly responsible for a disaster and get a free pass from blame because the current President apparently swore to take the blame for previous administration errors.