Blame america First - or Not

...maybe we can elect someone who will PUT america First

Ron Paul, although popular with internet loons and the left, will never translate into real votes. His "blame America" attitude and his lack of reality when dealing with islamic terrorism is a no go. - Island Dog

Goodness gracious.

There's plenty of 'Def bait' in this uote (sp) but the part that really irks me is this:

His "blame America" attitude...

To sociologists, this little snippet of propaganda is called a 'one -sided message'. It is the opposite of a two sided message - one that encourages uestion (sp) and debate. Though it has been chiefly used by the current administration, Democrats have also abused it's manipulative power. This style of persuasion is often used to circle wagons and is fed to those who already agree with the messenger.

' One - sided messages can be effective, but only with "lazy-receivers" who already favor your side of the argument and who are unlikely to hear another viewpoint'. ( Persuasion and Social Influence, Trenholm 1989 p. 242)

The messenger in this case may very probably (are) be Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. Both of whom can suck my cock for continually dumbing down america with such polarizing fare .

Dr. Ron Paul, who served in Vietnam, is a Physician, a former Libertarian Presidential Candidate (1988), served as a Texan Representative off and on since 1976, and is now a Republican Presidential Candidate would probably be unshaken to hear himself described as some un-american 'blame america first' sellout. Perhaps, he'd even correct the messenger by explaining that he understands our foreign policy isn't performing as well as it could, and that certainly some change is in order. Much unlike the suits-on-strings Romney and Guliani.

'Hey, I know, let's continue running the country the exact same way it's been run for the last 8 years.'

Please hand the reigns to Hillary via political suicide, she'll be the same product in a new package.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Kinda' like what happened with Congress recently.

Want more of the same direction? Most people don't. Check this out:

82 percent say people in other countries view the United States unfavorably.

71 percent say people in other countries now view the American people unfavorably.

53 percent of American believe the largest threat facing the United State is from terrorist organizations.

83 percent of Americans believe the U.S. should share a leadership role with allies and other countries around the world.

63 percent of voters think the U.S. should focus on domestic problems instead of foreign affairs.

56 percent of Americans believe that the war in Iraq is distracting us from the war on terror.

67 percent believe the war in Iraq is creating more terrorists.

72 percent favor diplomacy to pressure with Iran.

Those figures come from a poll conducted by the aspen Ideas Festival.

apparently, the same old same old doesn't cut it with some voters.

We need new blood. We need new ideas and new direction. We've seen the same old staid response from the majority of the Republican Candidates aside from Dr. Ron Paul - a true conservative, and we've seen plenty of inaction and unfulfilled promise from those on the Democratic side.

Will you believe the propaganda and vote for the same old suit or will you vote for the Patriot who wants to renew and restore american tradition?

, Paul has distinguished himself by his strict and sometimes unpopular adherence to his set of libertarian and conservative principles.

He has never voted to raise taxes or congressional pay and refuses to participate in the congressional pension system or take

government-paid junkets
. He also opposed the USA PATRIOT Act, the Military Commissions Act of 2006, and the Iraq War.

Paul supports free trade, gun ownership, and tight border security. He opposes capital punishment, foreign intervention, income tax, the

war on drugs, and gay marriage as well as federal definition of marriage. He thinks that Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and is

personally opposed to abortion, which he believes should be regulated only by the states. He also believes that the federal government

should have no influence on education. He has stated that religion should play a role in public life, but that there should be no state

religion.


- From Wikipedia;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul




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I admit, I use the term, but only about people who can't seem to talk about anything but how America is to blame for everything.  It's kind of like Logical Falacies, just because an argument may be an example of a falacy doesn't mean it always does.  Just because someone labels someone else as a "Blame America Firster" it doesn't automatically mean the person isn't... but then again, it is just an opinion, so it also doesn't mean the person is. ;~D

82 percent say people in other countries view the United States unfavorably.

71 percent say people in other countries now view the American people unfavorably.

I wonder what percentage of those people think that America is nothing but gang bangers, cowboys, Musicians and Hollywood stars?

53 percent of American believe the largest threat facing the United State is from terrorist organizations.

What is a bigger threat right now?

83 percent of Americans believe the U.S. should share a leadership role with allies and other countries around the world.

Share what leadership roles? UN? Let them vote for our leaders? Turn to other countries for "permission" to act in our own interests?

63 percent of voters think the U.S. should focus on domestic problems instead of foreign affairs.

Actually, there is no "instead" here.  The Federal Government has to focus on both, within the confines of the U.S. Constituiton.

56 percent of Americans believe that the war in Iraq is distracting us from the war on terror.

That's because they are distracted.  Iraq isn't a distraction on the war on terror, it has become the Epicenter of it.l

67 percent believe the war in Iraq is creating more terrorists.

It Probably does.  When is a gang most dangerous, when left alone, or when the law and neighbors go after them?

72 percent favor diplomacy to pressure with Iran.

Diplomacy would be nice, but Iran has shown time and time again that all they value with diplomacy is, it buys them time.

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I wonder what percentage of those people think that America is nothing but gang bangers, cowboys, Musicians and Hollywood stars?

Me too. But I think the world loves our media ( as abhorrent as it may be at times - high five Borat - style), it's our foreign trade and military policies other countries despise.

What is a bigger threat right now?


Easy, our reaction to the 'terrorist threat'. We destroy our own pure and right Constitution for popular expedient political means. Our leaders shoot america in the foot with our consent under duress. We can't be the 'shining city on the hill' when we move to match the lowest of the low by ceding our morals to torture, when we abridge our ethical advantage to detain unconstitutionally.

Share what leadership roles? UN? Let them vote for our leaders? Turn to other countries for "permission" to act in our own interests?

The esprite of the uestion (sp ) is blatant to me. We shouldn't look for permission so much as it should be explicit to all that we are acting in such a manner that it is improbable only the basest would oppose us when we enact drastic measures - such as invading other countries with shaky reason that proves erroneous at best.

The U.S. should very much be concerned with it's own matters, not act as world policeman searching out ways to spend it's money across the globe, but pursue an isolationist and very conservative foreign policy.

Actually, there is no "instead" here. The Federal Government has to focus on both, within the confines of the U.S. Constituiton.


To put America first, we must select domestic over foreign policy concerns.

That's because they are distracted. Iraq isn't a distraction on the war on terror, it has become the Epicenter of it.

I don't think so, the war isn't abroad, it is here. Ira(sp) can blow itself up, I don't have nearly as many americans there as I do here. So let's concentrate on making here the safest place - while respecting civil liberties. We can start that by closing the borders and pursuing foreign policy strictly through trade. Safe, efficient, profitable.

It Probably does. When is a gang most dangerous, when left alone, or when the law and neighbors go after them?

an inner city gang is much more containable then one world wide. The first step to dealing with a world wide gang is to remove reasons for them to have more members. The first step is to provide them no reason to become motivated to join the 'gang', by robbing them of motivation to killing themselves. Ever read 'The art of War'? The physician who prevents maladies is much more valued then the one who has to go in with a scalpel - at great risk to the patient.


Diplomacy would be nice, but Iran has shown time and time again that all they value with diplomacy is, it buys them time.

We are bought more time. They will hang themselves if their perceived intent is true.

Much thanks for your comments, rebuttal is welcome.




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So that is your solution, lock the doors and close the shutters and hope the bad guys go away? Has that ever worked? Foreign or domestically?
Reply #4 Top
Ramp up defense at home, secure the borders, remove reasons and opportunity for others to conflict with us.

Has it ever been tried? No. Will it work? Sure.
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I'll agree with the ramp up defense at home... but did you realize it is against the law to use the active military for defense at home? I also agree with securing the borders.

You seem to think that Islamist Extremists are at war with us because of something we did to them? They want us to convert... or die. So the only reason or opportunity to remove is buy a prayer rug, learn Arabic and praise Allah.
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but did you realize it is against the law to use the active military for defense at home?


absolutely. For me, strengthening defense at home means securing buildings and ports, etc. .


They want us to convert... or die.

I don't think so. There may be some radicals out there who do their mad saber rattling but they are the minority in a religion second only in size to Christianity. In most parts of the world, the Muslims that are extreme are usually busy fighting each other. No need for us to get between that.