I Did NOT Know This

Had Not A Clue

It's funny the things you learn in Sunday School.

Today I learned that the Song Y.M.C.A. was about homosexual men having homosexual sex at the YMCA.

I was stunned. We all were.

It does? I didn't know that.

Did you?

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Reply #1 Top

Holy moley.  I thought EVERYONE knew....I mean, didn't the outfits give it away?!

What a sheltered life you lead.

Reply #2 Top
Yup, I guess so. But I was not alone. We were all sitting there going.....really?

None of us could believe that.......thinking it was just a song about the YMCA. Had no clue.

I think I'll ask my kids.....
Reply #3 Top
I think I'll ask my kids.....


Aren't your kids a bit young to be listening to the Village People?
Reply #4 Top
I'm with dharma. I'm astonished you didn't figure it out. And the fact that more than one person didn't know is even less fathomable . . .
Reply #5 Top
The next thing you're going to tell us is you thought the song "I Like Big Butts" is about cigarettes.
Reply #6 Top
Ok guys so you had fun at my expense. Feeling better.....glad to make your day.

Anyhow, I looked up the lyrics.....and I don't see anything exactly overtly homo to me......exactly.....so how was I supposed to know? Here's the lyrics:

Young man, there's no need to feel down.
I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground.
I said, young man, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy.

Young man, there's a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

They have everything for young men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal,
You can do whatever you feel ...

Young man, are you listening to me?
I said, young man, what do you want to be?
I said, young man, you can make real your dreams.
But you've got to know this one thing!

No man does it all by himself.
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf,
And just go there, to the y.m.c.a.
I'm sure they can help you today.

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

They have everything for you men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal,
You can do whatever you feel ...

Young man, I was once in your shoes.
I said, I was down and out with the blues.
I felt no man cared if I were alive.
I felt the whole world was so jive ...

That's when someone came up to me,
And said, young man, take a walk up the street.
It's a place there called the y.m.c.a.
They can start you back on your way.

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

They have everything for young men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a
Young man, there's no need to feel down
Young man, pick yourself off the ground

It's fun to stay at y-m-c-a
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a
Young man, are you listening to me?
Young man, what do you wanna be?

y-m-c-a
you'll find it at the y-m-c-a
no man, does it all by himself
young man, put your pride on the shelf

Y-m-c-a
then just go to the y-m-c-a
y-m-c-a
young man, i was once in your shoes
y-m-c-a
young man, I said, I was down and out with the blues.
y-m-c-a

So what EXACTLY was suppose to clue me in? The way the Village People dressed like Dharma said? So all people that dress up like that are automatically gay?

BTW I asked my middle son and he never heard this either. He barely knows the song, but has heard it at ball games. He had no idea either.



Reply #7 Top
ummm...the village people were an openly gay disco band. the disco movement came out of the gay scene in the 70's in part. a lot of gay sex was happenin at the Y apparantly. they were encouraging people to go.

but, the song has transcended beyond that. it is popular at ball games, like mentioned above. also at weddings, at clubs of all types and other social and sporting events. it's apopular sing-along and people like to do the " letters" with their arms / bodies.
Reply #8 Top
I Refuse to do "the Letters"! ;~D

I think this song is why I first learned what gay meant.
Reply #9 Top
gay people saying that its fun to stay at the ymca.

its a pretty catchy song, though. you gotta admit. don't listen to it while you are falling asleep, or you will have some explaining to do.

ever heard puff the magic dragon?

my wife is with you, she doesn't believe it.
Reply #10 Top
I had the album. And yes, even as a sheltered little Christian boy in the seventies, I knew.

It might be more in the subtext then the text, but it's still there.

You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.
...
They have everything for young men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...
...
You can do whatever you feel ...


I mean, come on.

Also, check out the lyrics to "Macho Man" sometime. And if you really want to warp your brain, ponder their song "In The Navy" for a while.

Oh my goodness.
What am I gonna do in a submarine?


What indeed.



(Oh my, in the past couple hours on JU I have admited to owning VIllage People and Spice Girls. My street cred is shot.)
Reply #11 Top
Psst... Should we tell her about Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop"?

Reply #12 Top
Psst... Should we tell her about Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop"?


Only if you want to start a mass debate. ;~D
Reply #13 Top
It's just a song by a openly homosexual disco band. That doesn't mean it's ABOUT sex. But, given what was going on, yeah, that was probably the reason they sang YMCA instead of Salvation Army. I figured it was just about how the YMCA would help you out if you needed a place to stay. Or, if you were feeling a little down, you coudl go there and play basketball or something. Or, you know, have homosexual sex.
Reply #14 Top
I can't say this article is a revelation - you've always struck me as something of a naif, KFC.

You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.
...
They have everything for young men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...
...
You can do whatever you feel ...


It's possibly one of the most suggestive songs sung in the English language. If it was any more suggestive it'd be blatant (or more correctly, flaming).
Reply #15 Top
Sorry to reinforce your burst bubble, but yep. You are 100% dead-on correct.
According to RUMINT (Wikipedia intel), In the Navy was actually going to be used in Navy recruiting commercials until brass discovered the true nature of the song. The music video was underwritten by the US Navy. This is according to Wikipedia, so take it with a pound of salt.
Reply #16 Top
the village people were an openly gay disco band. the disco movement came out of the gay scene in the 70's in part. a lot of gay sex was happenin at the Y apparantly. they were encouraging people to go


First off, I knew the song, but really knew nothing about the Village People, other than they seemed a bit wacked out to me. But really I must have missed all the talk shows back then. As far as the Y..... that does sound vaguely familiar now you say it.

I Refuse to do "the Letters"! ;~D


now I'm feeling really stupid......I did this at all the ball games. I like to have fun and I got on board with everybody else. No more.

Psst... Should we tell her about Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop"?


Haven't got a clue.....Didn't follow her at all. Don't think I want to know.

Only if you want to start a mass debate.


hahahahah you know me well Ted!!

I figured it was just about how the YMCA would help you out if you needed a place to stay. Or, if you were feeling a little down, you coudl go there and play basketball or something.


That's what I thought. Really. I did.

you've always struck me as something of a naif, KFC.


thank you. I'll take that as a COMPLIMENT....even tho it wasn't intended like that. I'd rather be naive than jaded.

Sorry to reinforce your burst bubble, but yep. You are 100% dead-on correct.


so far, everyone I've asked does not know this, including my 23 year old son....He spent four years at an (almost) ALL BOY Military College so you'd think he might know this.

It is a shame about Puff the Magic Dragon tho.

Reply #17 Top
I'm with you KFC.


That's one of my favorite oldies and have sung along with it dozens of time. I never associated "gayness" with the song or the performance of the Village People.

I grew up in a small town and the YMCA was THE place to go after school. There was pool, basketball, ping pong, games galore (that's where I learned to play chess) , and music playing. There was a dance held every Friday evening from 7 to 10.00 where I danced the "twist" and "stroll" and the "waltz" many a time. Whenever I hear the song, I think back on those happy days and am so glad that some adults gave of thier time and kept that place open for us.
Reply #18 Top

You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.
...
They have everything for young men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...
...
You can do whatever you feel ...


Our YMCA was for both boys and girls and we couldn't do "whatever we feel" .... that's got to be at least part of the difference.
Reply #19 Top
I guess you're going to have to stick to the chicken dance from now on? I still think YMCA is a fun song. I don't see why you still shouldn't enjoy it. Like you said the lyrics don't specifically mention gay sex. I had a "Frankie say Relax" T shirt and I had no idea what that meant until years later watching a VH1 show. I was naive too.
Reply #20 Top
I guess you're going to have to stick to the chicken dance from now on?


Now, I did that at my son's wedding.....with a whole bunch of military guys in uniform. It was hilarious....but is there anything behind that song I should know about?

I don't see why you still shouldn't enjoy it. Like you said the lyrics don't specifically mention gay sex.


well now that I know the original intent, it's taken all the fun out of it for me. I don't want to further an "agenda" by laughing at it and having a great time doing so. Everything I do should bring glory to God and I don't see how this can.

I was naive too


you and me both because I have no idea what your tee shirt is all about either.

Reply #21 Top

well now that I know the original intent, it's taken all the fun out of it for me. I don't want to further an "agenda" by laughing at it and having a great time doing so. Everything I do should bring glory to God and I don't see how this can.


That's the way it is for me too. Now, for me, the initial innocence and funness of the song is gone.
Reply #22 Top
you and me both because I have no idea what your tee shirt is all about either.


I can't tell you. It's like trying to explain it to my Aunt Sandra. It's just embarrassing. Let's just say it was a gay sex thing.

Not that I'm against gays, I just don't want to wear a tshirt about it. My opinion has always been that everyone, gay or strait, should keep their sex lives private.
Reply #23 Top

The next thing you're going to tell us is you thought the song "I Like Big Butts" is about cigarettes.

No, no, no!  Trogolodytes was about cigarette smoking!

Reply #24 Top
I don't want to further an "agenda" by laughing at it and having a great time doing so. Everything I do should bring glory to God and I don't see how this can.


don't worry kfc, you are hardly furthering any agenda by singing along or doin the "letters" of YMCA. it has LONG since trancended any of that, by about 25-30 years, lol. it is simply part of pop culture. and it's been done at weddings and such for so long, it's almost a "traditional."

and you can glorify God by having fun, smiling and enjoying the companionship and celebration with your family, friends and loved ones when the DJ spins it.

have fun, it's just a pop song   
Reply #25 Top
don't worry kfc, you are hardly furthering any agenda by singing along or doin the "letters" of YMCA. it has LONG since trancended any of that, by about 25-30 years, lol. it is simply part of pop culture. and it's been done at weddings and such for so long, it's almost a "traditional."

and you can glorify God by having fun, smiling and enjoying the companionship and celebration with your family, friends and loved ones when the DJ spins it.

have fun, it's just a pop song


Ha ha ha ha these were my thoughts exactly, Sean. Wonderful explanation.