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This man is an idiot.

or; so I feel.

from JoeUser Forums
Once again, President Bush has vetoed a bill regarding funding for stem cell research, calling the research "unethical".

I've gotten into this before on this site, and I still don't understand President Bush's position. These stem cells are going to be flushed down the toilet. Put them to good use.

I already know the reaction I'm going to get from the majority of the people on this site - "why should federal funding go to any research, regardless of how it's funded?"

My answer? Because I said so, dammit.

President Bush, you're tacky and I hate you. (Name the movie reference.)


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Reply #51 from JoeUser Forums Top
lets hear it for dictator gene never missing a chance to bash bush
Reply #52 from JoeUser Forums Top
The stem cells from fertilization will be destroyed if they are not used to help fined cures for disease.


So why the hell isn't PRIVATE INDUSTRY funding the research?

I do not understand the hypocrisy of demanding an end to corporate welfare yet at the same time SUPPORTING corporate welfare. Because, in the end, that is all government funded stem cell research would be -- corporate welfare!
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Reply #53 from JoeUser Forums Top
So why the hell isn't PRIVATE INDUSTRY funding the research?


Why should private industry pay for it when it can be done by the government at tax payers expense?  And if col has his way, the people that will really be paying for it is successful Americans.  The same people who whine about budgets and deficits are the same ones calling for more government money.
Reply #54 from JoeUser Forums Top
and higher taxes except on their money
Reply #55 from JoeUser Forums Top
So why the hell isn't PRIVATE INDUSTRY funding the research?


Indeed. If the research is so promising, why are the pharmaceuticals not doing it? There seems to be a disconnect between the rhetoric of those who want the government to pay for everything and anything - regardless of the benefit - and prvate industry that in the end, can only look at the benefit before wasting money.
Reply #56 from JoeUser Forums Top
To bring a bit of levity back to the thread (that was supposed to be by-and-large flippant, by the way) . . .

*This is Tom Brokaw, with an NBC News Special Report:

Scientists today released a study that shows that the oldest child usually has the highest IQ.

If that were the case, younger brother Jed Bush wouldn't be able to tie his shoelaces.

This has been an NBC News Special Report.*
Reply #57 from JoeUser Forums Top
This is where I got the info from in response #43. It was right there in the response. I didn't make it up. And I don't think saying that adult stem cells are more flexible than previously thought makes them better than embryonic stem cells.

http://www.camradvocacy.org/resources/Embryonic_Stem_Cell_Research_Progress.htm

I don't understand why you are so angry about this issue, don't you find it hopeful. I do.


Thus, although hESC are thought to offer potential cures and therapies for many devastating diseases, research using them is still in its early stages.


Hope.


I'm not angry with you. But a lot of people don't understand that while embryonic cells may hold promise. Key word here being "may". And while these cells "may" hold promise, adult stem cells have done alot more than just to hold out a promise. They've actually done something that can be pointed at and say look what our research has accomplished. All that is being done with the embryonic cells is holding out a hope for the people suffering with the deseases which may or may not happen. If all of the things in reply #43 are true then there should have medical breakthroughs in treatments? They have been working on this for years now with nothing to show for it. I'm sorry if you thought I was angry with you. I'm angry over the whole situation. I apologize to you.
Reply #58 from JoeUser Forums Top
this is what will happen if this bill ever becomes law.

the pharmaceutical companies will start paying women to get pregnet so they can abort the baby to use for research purposes that is what the president is talking about. besides he isn't saying the research can't be done he is saying not on the publics dime


That can be legislated out.