Time to TELL BUSH HELL NO!!!

CUT OFF THE FUNDING OCTOBER 1st 2007.

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Congress needs to tell Bush this will not happen.

Army Considers Longer Combat Tours Again
By ANNE FLAHERTY (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
June 19, 2007 3:58 PM EDT
WASHINGTON - The Army is considering whether it will have to extend the combat tours of troops in Iraq if President Bush opts to maintain the recent buildup of forces through spring 2008.

Acting Army Secretary Pete Geren testified Tuesday that the service is reviewing other options, including relying more heavily on Army reservists or Navy and Air Force personnel, so as not to put more pressure on a stretched active-duty force.

Most soldiers spend 15 months in combat with a guaranteed 12 months home, a rotation plan that already has infuriated Democrats because it exceeds the service's goal of giving troops equal time home as in combat. In coming weeks, the Senate will vote on a proposal by Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., that would restrict deployments.

"It's too early to look into the next year, but for the Army we have to begin to plan," Geren told the Senate Armed Services Committee. "We have to look into our options."

Gen. David Petraeus, Iraq war commander, suggested Sunday that conditions on the ground might not be stable enough by September to justify a drop in force levels, and he predicted that stabilizing Iraq could take a decade. Earlier this year, Bush ordered the deployment of some 30,000 additional troops as part of a massive U.S.-led security push around Baghdad and the western Anbar province.

There are about 156,000 U.S. troops in Iraq.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
If we can't get you to listen to us, how can we expect Bush to listen to us. Maybe you should apply your own ideals of getting people to listen by listening yourself. To get people to change by changing yourself. It seems OK for you to stay the same so long as everyone else changes for your benefit, right?
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
CharlesCS1

I look at what happens and then respond to what is taking place. That is NOT what Bush does. The violence in Iraq is NOT winding down just shifting from one location to another. Yesterday they found another 20 bodies in addition to the blast that killed about 75 and injured over 150 more. It has been 4 1/2 YEARS and we have not been able to establish stability in Iraq. The Iraqi Government IS NOT able or willing to compromise and without that we can not stop the fighting. The American Ground Military has been damaged to a VERY great extent by this prolonged war and to even think of extending the tours is unthinkable. Bush has proven by the results on the ground he is incapable of dealing with Iraq and for that matter the greater Middle East Region. Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq, Iran, Syria are all the SAME story-- The discord and hate toward our country is getting worse and NOTHING Bush has done has stabilize the area. In fact his policies have destabilized every area. When do you look at what you are doing and understand it is NOT WORKING? HOW many More must die, be injured and how many more BILLIONS spent on this misadventure? Anyone the continues to support the Bush policy in Iraq is NOT LOOKING at what is taking place. They are just like Bush-- Stubborn and ineffective.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Blah Blah Blah. Do you know anything else other than cut and paste? If you were half as smart as anyone in the white house you would not be hanging around this place.
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Reply By: CharlesCS1 Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Blah Blah Blah. Do you know anything else other than cut and paste? If you were half as smart as anyone in the white house you would not be hanging around this place.

If you believe Bush and the majority of the people he has appointed are meeting the needs of this country, you are living in a very different world. We have an administration that was unable to deal with Katrina, Iraq, Border Security, Energy, Education, the budget, North Korea, Trade. Please show us HOW the policies Bush and his administration have been following have successfully dealt with ANY of these issues. Only 20% of Americans believe we are headed in the right direction. The policies Bush has selected have also been implemented during the first six years by the GOP controlled Congress. Tell me the U.S. Ground Forces are not is trouble. To be considering making this worse is UNTHINKABLE!!!!!

TO YOU I SAY IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT!!!!!
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
I doubt there is anything Bush would want more than someone to cut the funding and remove the troops for him. The he isn't responsible for whatever happens next.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Anyone the continues to support the Bush policy in Iraq is NOT LOOKING at what is taking place. They are just like Bush-- Stubborn and ineffective


and anyone who disagrees with dictator col gene should be taken out and shot
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: just john Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2007
I doubt there is anything Bush would want more than someone to cut the funding and remove the troops for him. The he isn't responsible for whatever happens next.


It is NOT WHAT BUSH WANTS! It is what is best for America. It is what Americans want. Following the failed policies in Iraq and getting more American Military killed and injured does not help anyone. The time has come to allow the Iraqi People to choose what they want. If it is an all out Civil War than that is there choice. If it a country that can exist as an entity- that will be their choice. All we need to insure is that any fighting does not spill over into other countries and we should do our best to destroy any al Qaeda operations in Iraq. So far as the fighting between the factions within Iraq, that should be left up to the Iraqi people.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
TO YOU I SAY IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT!!!!!


Idiot? You keep talking about Bush as if I was talking about him. I am talking about you. How you never give an inch in any of your discussions. How a debate with you is a "my way or the highway" debate. Never do you ever admit to mistakes, never do you accept someone elses opinion, never do you agree with anyone. You call yourself a Republican but there are around 3 people on this site that reply almost in the same manner you do, they are all Democrats. The only real idiot here is you.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
You argue with the facts. They clearly demonstrate the policies we are following are NOT WORKING.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
You argue with the facts. They clearly demonstrate the policies we are following are NOT WORKING.


Again, your stupidity shows. I do not argue the facts, I argue with you. You're to stupid to see it.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
"Again, your stupidity shows. I do not argue the facts, I argue with you. You're to ( should be “too”) stupid to see it."

Since my arguments sight the facts you are saying the facts are not correct. That is not arguing with me. If the data had originated with me you could argue that MY FACTS were not correct. However when I sight facts from the Pentagon, or AP, OMB, CBO, GAO or the Treasury dept and you say what I post is not correct you are saying those sources are not correct.

YOU are the STUPID person.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Since my arguments sight the facts you are saying the facts are not correct. That is not arguing with me. If the data had originated with me you could argue that MY FACTS were not correct. However when I sight facts from the Pentagon, or AP, OMB, CBO, GAO or the Treasury dept and you say what I post is not correct you are saying those sources are not correct.

YOU are the STUPID person.


Thank you for proving my point. The irony is that no one here has argued against you article yet you are replying as if anyone is saying the contrary to it. This is my point. Though I admit I am an idiot for even trying to get you to understand.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: just john Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2007
"I doubt there is anything Bush would want more than someone to cut the funding and remove the troops for him. The he isn't responsible for whatever happens next."


Bush WILL be responsible for what takes place when we leave. It is his policy that enabled the violence in Iraq to develop and he is responsible for enabling al Qaeda to set up operations in Western Iraq. He got his way in EVERY phase in Iraq and when we leave and there is an ALL OUT Civil War, it will be because of the Bush Policy!!!

We just lost another 12 Americans and three more MOSQUES WERE BOMBED. WAY TO GO GEORGE!
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
Correction 14 more. Argue with this:

U.S. Military: 14 Troops Killed in Iraq
By HAMID AHMED (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
June 21, 2007 8:18 AM EDT
BAGHDAD - The U.S. military announced the deaths of 14 American troops, including five killed Thursday in a single roadside bombing that also killed four Iraqis in Baghdad.

Elsewhere in Iraq, a suicide truck bomber struck the Sulaiman Bek city hall in a predominantly Sunni area in northern Iraq, killing at least 13 people and wounding 70, an Iraqi commander said.

The U.S. deaths raised to at least 3,545 the number of U.S. troops who have died since the war began in 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

The deadliest attack was a roadside bomb that struck a convoy in northeastern Baghdad on Thursday, killing five U.S. soldiers, three Iraqi civilians and one Iraqi interpreter, the military said.

A rocket-propelled grenade struck a vehicle in northern Baghdad about 12:30 p.m. Thursday, killing one soldier and wounding three others, another statement said.

Four other U.S. soldiers were killed and one was wounded Wednesday when their convoy was struck by a roadside bomb in a western neighborhood in the capital, the military said separately.

Southwest of Baghdad, two U.S. soldiers were killed and four were wounded Wednesday when explosions struck near their vehicle, according to a statement earlier in the day.

Two Marines also were killed Wednesday while conducting combat operations in Anbar province, west of Baghdad, the military said.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
2500 americans are killed june 6th conducting combat operations

anyone smart enough to know what i am talking about i am sure the dictator col. gene isn't
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
rules of war

rule 1 young men die

rule 2 there is nothing doctors can do to change rule 1
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Col just has not accepted that for the past 4 years we have been at war and that people die during wars. He thinks that mentioning every soldier that dies will somehow change that or change us. We know what happens during a war, while the death of our soldiers hurts us tremendously, it is what we gain from it that we want to hear. If our soldiers died for nothing that is tragic but if they die for something worth dying for than their deaths were not a waste. We may not have gone for all the right reasons, no one is debating that (except Col gene), but wer are already there and way as well make the best of it.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
It's time we tell klink....."Hell NO"!
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
How interesting of someone who gets so excited posting only bad news.  No wonder I don't read this garbage anymore.


Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
How interesting of someone who gets so excited posting only bad news. No wonder I don't read this garbage anymore.


He has admitted that his articles are not accomplishing anything since he is now writing in bold.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: danielost Posted: Thursday, June 21, 2007
2500 Americans are killed June 6th conducting combat operations

Anyone smart enough to know what I am talking about I am sure the dictator col. gene isn't


D Day. That has NOTHING to do with the fact that the 3,500 dead and 25,000 injured in Iraq is for NO REASON. IT has NOT made us safer and we are NOT moving to quell the violence. It took about a YEAR from D Day until we defeated Hitler. We have been fighting in Iraq over 4 YEARS and are NO CLOSER to a VICTORY then when we started. In fact we are FURTHER from winning!


Reply By: Island Dog Posted: Thursday, June 21, 2007
How interesting of someone who gets so excited posting only bad news. No wonder I don't read this garbage anymore. That is the NEWS from Iraq. IT IS JUST ABOUT ALL BAD!!!!!!!
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
IT IS JUST ABOUT ALL BAD!!!!!!!


When you have a one-sided view, of course it is.  Are you going to tell us that you take in both sides of the story, and that you look at the good news from Iraq.  Of course not, you just site back and wait for the headlines to come in so you can post them over and over, and when someone challenges you, you just resort to calling them an "idiot" or "stupid".  What a joke.

Once again, I'm done with this garbage.


Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
I still remember the night line story that was broadcast one year after they declared mission accomplished.

They had gone over there to prove how bad things were. They interviewed this lady who was having trouble getting the check that the new government had promised her.
While she was waiting for her check she was watching her brand new big screen tv with her brand new satilite dish in her brand new apartment. She told them that the power was only on half the time. Of course under saddam the power was only on a third of the time.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
danielost

Today there is very little Electric Service to power the Big Screen TV. There is a Lack of Fresh Water and gasoline and to leave your home is dangerous. Conditions today are worse then under Saddam and are NOT getting better. Without an END to the Violence, NOTHING else positive is of any real value! Over two Million Iraqi’s have fled their country because of the violence.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
Over two Million Iraqi’s have fled their country because of the violence.


if i had a war going on in my coutry and i didn't know who to back i would probable leave to

i believe that during world war 2 it was along the lines of 10,000,000 not counting the 6,000,000 dead and dieing jews.

when saddam was in command there were up to 104,000 deaths each year.

according to your sources during this whole war there has been less than 100,000 deaths.

so you tell me oh dictator col gene which would you rather live in