WHY the Surge in Iraq Will Fail!

Thanks for your optimism!

Island Dog

It has NOTHING to do with Optimism or Pessimism It has to do with REALITY. The idea that what is going on in Iraq is because of the foreign terrorists is just not true. The Kurds want control in the north. The Shea and Sunni's want control of all other areas. Our adding 30,000 troops does NOT alter the desire for the competing factions to want control of Iraq. That is why the Surge will only add to our casualties and increase the cost of this war. The end result will be the same and the real losers from the Bush Surge are our military and the tax payers of America.

It has NOTHING to do with Optimism or Pessimism It has to do with REALITY.

Only the reality you choose to see, conveniently not grounded in fact and heavily tinted with bias and hatred.

The end result will be the same and the real losers from the Bush Surge are our military and the tax payers of America.

'Nuff said.

Only the reality you choose to see, conveniently not grounded in fact and heavily tinted with bias and hatred. WHAT HATRED? Every person except Bush and Cheney have said the very same thing—the violence is between the factions in Iraq who want control of that country.

I'm just glad that you are no longer in a position to poison the minds of troops.  I wonder how the troops in my section would have reacted if our Colonel was as cowardly and showed as little enthusiasm as you do.  You spit on your rank everytime you vomit your filth. Let me guess, you applauded the folks in Portland as they burned that effigy... or did you just wish it was an actual US soldier burning there?

Based on your expert analysis there is a civil war in the United States of America. Democrats and Republicans have been fighting for control of the nation since the 1860’s and has not stopped yet. I can conclude from your expert analysis that the democrats should leave the U.S. because that is the only way to end the civil war.
Yes, this is silly, just as silly as you assertion that we are losing the war. You have written articles that we on the right should respect the majority yet you don’t think that the same rule should apply in Iraq. You have three major groups that want power. Two are in power one is not and you believe or seem to believe that the minority wanting power again constitutes a civil war. all because there is less than one third of the nation is in turmoil. An unsustainable fight without outside help from Iran. So if we leave then the majority will be pushed out of power because of the interference from an outside source.

A poll using a sample of 5000 people in Iraq, most polls here in the States use samples much smaller usually between 1500 and 2000. Say they want us there, they are optimistic, and they are better off than they were when Saddam was in power. This poll was taken before the surge. Take your own advice and respect the majority. The majority elected the current leaders, the majority feels they are safer with our troops there. The violence has dropped because the leaders of the “civil war” are hiding in Iran and they have no leadership and no outside resources because of the surge.
With all that information at your disposal you conclude that we are going to lose and the surge won’t work.
You sir are a political hack not an analyst.



So the military is losing because of the President. Speak to people like I have that have come back from there. They are very optimistic until they see the news reports when they get home. They tell me of hospitals and other help they were involved in and how the first time they went there it was rough and violent and now it is getting to be the exception to the rule rather than the norm. This was told to me by a young Marine I spoke with in between stops at an airport this weekend. He wants to be part of the surge but his unit was ordered home. This was a Lance Corporal (E-3) USMC coming home from his second tour.
My point is that the rank and file see they are doing something and making a difference, they feel they are doing good and want to stay and finish. I had spoken to a Spec-4 U.S. Army just in passing and he thinks he was doing good over there. I have not spoken to any squids I mean Navy people in recent weeks but when I get a chance I speak to people in uniform and ask what is really going on. I spoke to a Lt. Colonel in the Army and he is happy with what he sees going on there and he was on his way back there. His only complaint is that he can’t bring his wife. Think of that, it is so dangerous that we should bring our troops home but our troops want to bring their spouses to live there. I know he was in the army and my be denying the truth as you often do but he seemed lucid and intelligent even for an Army soldier. (smile)
Keep in mind that this is not Vietnam the troops are not conscripts but volunteers that knew what they were getting into before the bullets started flying. They are professional soldiers doing the best they can with the little support they get from home.

Parated2k

I have more concern and support for OUR TROOPS then you or anyone that believes continuing this WAR is the correct policy. I have a lot more support for our troops then to send them into combat when there was NO DANGER to our country. I have a lot more regard for troops then to disregard the military doctrine which sent them into a war with insufficient manpower and improper equipment. I have more regard then to send the same troops back 3 or 4 times over a 4 year period. Anyone that supports this war or the way this war was fought is not loyal to our troops. You loyalty is to a president that DOES NOT know what he is doing and has cost this country 3,000 dead, 25,000 injured that did not have to be! He lied about the danger Saddam presented this country and sent our brave military into an unneeded and unjust war from which there is no good way out!
Your support needlessly killed 3,200 Americans, injured 25,000 and spent 3/4 of a trillion dollars. That is GREAT SUPPORT! I will have NONE of that! I am thankful I served under Commander-in Chiefs that were not like GWB!

Paladin77

So the military is losing because of the President. YES. Even people who still support going into Iraq admit the way the war was fought was a SERIES of mistakes. Not sending the required manpower. Not sending the proper equipment. Disbanding the Iraqi Army and Police. Now not having the medical faculties to treat those that have been injured! ALL is because of GWB The Commander-in-Chief!

The unbiased words of a foolish political hack. Grow up Gene you are ignoring facts in favor of political opinion.

ColGene. NEWSFLASH, our troops are THERE! This is not a video game, a test or a political football. IT'S A WAR!! It's a war over ideologies. There are terrorists in Iraq who make it a point to kill civilians. They have only 1 purpose in mind... cause lilly livered cowards like yourself to pressure the government to surrender in Iraq. Surrendering in Iraq IS surrending in the war on terror. To back the terrorists is to betray our troops and our own freedom.

You terrorist loving piece of trash. You would have spit on the Jews of Poland, telling them they had nothing to worry about because only Jews in Germany were being targeted. I bet you would even tell a woman that if she was getting raped she should just lay back and enjoy it. Why do I say that about you? Because every word of your blog tells America to lay back and enjoy the attacks. We tried your way through the 80s and 90s... it didn't work.

Parated2k

You are right it is not a game. Thousands are being killed and injured! It is a WAR for the Control of Iraq. That is a CIVIL WAR that our troops should not be in the middle of and are in the middle of this Civil War because of GWB!

We went to war because of Bush.

We did not follow the military doctrine and sent 1/3 the troops the generals said were needed because of Bush.

The Iraqi Army and police were disbanded with the knowledge and agreement of GWB.

I guess we should pin this war on George Washington!

Para Ted 2K

Hey you flaming ASS!! I served my country unlike the idiot you support!

I know you served your country, but now you are willing to welcome terrorist attacks simply because you hate the president. Quit lying about who you support! You lie about supporting the troops, yet you crave their deaths just to back your pitiful little political stance. The time to talk about whether or not we should have gone back to Iraq is long since past. The ONLY talk that has any value now is how to win. You say it's merely a civil war as if that is supposed to mean something. Those you consider "Freedom Fighters" do nothing for the people of Iraq, they merely target them to get slime like you to help the terrorists win.

Yes, you served your country, and I thank you for your service. Isn't it great that you never had to face slime like yourself telling you that surrender is somehow "winning".

Question, when you were a commander, what would you have faced if you ordered your unit to surrender the way you want them to now?

Wow, Tokyo Rose, is that you?

Para Ted 2K

I hate what Bush has done to this country how he has misused our Military. He has cause the death of 0ver 3,200 members of our military and is responsible for over 25,000 injured. How he has failed to enforce our laws. How he has mortgaged the future of our country. How he has done nothing to help us with the energy problems. How he has made the financial problem of Medicare worse. How he has failed to protect our borders and ports. That what I hate!

The issue has nothing to do with SURRENDER. Bush has placed our troop’s in the middle of a Civil war with not good options. If we stay more will die and be injured. If we leave the violence will most likely increase. ALL because Bush did not listen to those that had far greater knowledge and experience. He made the choices and look at where that has taken our country!

So serving in the national guard is not serving ones country. This will come as a shock to the gardsmen. Your hate of Mr. Bush is so blinding that you care not who you hurt with your insults as long as smmewhere on the target is Mr. Bush. He served and was honorably dischaarged. When I first read this I thought you were taliking about Mr. Clinton who evaded all servive and attacked our country by protesting outside our shores. But knowing you as the political hack you are that would be truthful and you don't like the truth.



According to you the will of the people and Majority rule is what you favor. The majority in Iraq say this is not a civil war according to the last two polls taken in that country. One with a sampling of 2000 and the other with a sampling of 5000. Why is it you can't accept the majority as you say we should do now that your side has control of the Congress?



This is a lie from a political hack that wants to blame the nation and its leader for the mistakes of the past leaders of our nation.

The war was because we were attacked for 30 years and did nothing about it until we had a president forced to take action. The enemy in Afghanistan fled to Iraq for safe haven causing us to go into that country as well. They are losing in both countries and only have support under the table in Iran and Syria because of our attack on Iraq instead of the open support that Saddam gave. Lesson learned.



This is another political lie from a political hack! If what you say is true then the war would not have ended so quickly (6 weeks) instead it would have dragged on or we would have lost in days for not having enough troops there. Just because we did not use strategy decades old that all enemy forces have studied does not mean that we did not follow doctrine. The plan worked but you refuse to admit it 4 years after the war ended.



I find this part of your argument fallacious as well. Here is how I got there. You said we did not follow military doctrine in the invasion of Iraq, yet in this case we followed the standard practice after we have won the war and it failed. In WWII we took the German government apart as we did in Iraq. The only guide we had for winning wars since the left has kept us from winning in Vietnam, Korea, and trying to do the same here in Iraq. As I said we took the government apart and put in people WE could trust just as we did in Iraq. Are you saying Gene, that it was ok for Mr. Truman to do it that way but not Mr. Bush? There is historical reference for doing it the way it was done so it was not some wild hair up his butt that made him do it that way.




You are unbelievably dishonest. No, we should not blame the war on Mr. Washington! We should blame the war on the one that started it. I know this is a radical idea but how about we blame the war on Al Qaeda and their declared war on the United States back when Mr. Clinton was in office. As I said I know it is a wild idea to blame it on the people that attacked us instead of blaming it on the people attacked. But I can use that to work for us it was Iraq’s fault we attacked them.

Paladin77

The way Bush served in the National Guard IS NOT SERVING ANYONE BUT BUSH!

Paladin77

You are a complete IDIOT. You simply do not know what you are talking about. It is good you were not an Officer. YOU CAN NOT THINK!

Paladin77 You are a complete IDIOT. You simply do not know what you are talking about. It is good you were not an Officer. YOU CAN NOT THINK!

And WE don't understand how "you" managed to become an officer. Because "you" can't think either!

It's the moronic attitude like yours, that will end up costing us ths war!

The way Bush served in the National Guard IS NOT SERVING ANYONE BUT BUSH!

If you refuse to respect Lt. Bush's National Guard service why should anyone respect your reserve service?  You can keep up the lie that he didn't serve all you want but all it says is that you don't respect military service at all.

You spit on the people serving in Iraq and pray for their defeat... What support is that?

I see the VA missed your Alzheimer's diagnosis, Colonel. We should have a Congressional hearing about that. The President's "lies" were the same ones told to us 10 years ago by another President, if I recall, along with a collection of swindlers and crooks and criminals holed up in a large building in NYC. So that doesn't cut the mustard, Colonel. I could give a flying leap about your opinion of our Commander-in-Chief, sir, but I do take offense at your complete lack of faith and trust in our troops, including some who just may have been trained under your guidance. What does that really say about you, sir? I do believe the violence is caused by control, however, it is for the control of American hearts and minds. I believe, Colonel, that you should request some sort of commission or reward from these "insurgents", as payment for services rendered. I've had my fill of defeatists, so called pragmatists. Apologists be damned. If we don't win this war, our way of life and that of posterity will never be the same. We will win this war Colonel, because we hate to lose. The old men on the Hill who sent these men and women to war are exactly that, old men, frail and weak of spine, hell bent on dividing this country and countermanding anything that would make us victorious. I, for one, sir, will not stand for it.

You will not demean the lives and sacrifices our men and women have endured, Colonel. It will not happen. If you want to spew your hatred of this administration, feel free. Do not politicize our military.

If you still believe it can't be done sir, then buy me a beer in Dubai, and we'll play a round a Tiger's course.

Go Navy!

It's the moronic attitude like yours, that will end up costing us this war! It is Bush that has cost this country this war! It was a mistake to invade Iraq and the tactics used compounded the first mistake. The result is what you see day after day!

Clinton or Bush 41 did not take this country into a Civil war! That took the idiot we have in office now!

Bush wasted the 3,200 dead and the 25,000 injured. Committing our military to a war that was NOT needed and that has made this country LESS safe is just about the WORST thing a President can do!

Idiot Colonel, if Bush 41 never had any intention to continue the push into Baghdad why was my unit in Southern Iraq with orders to establish Log Base Romeo to support just such a push? The fact is the coalition had EVERY intention to topple Hussein.

What stopped us? Diplomacy!

When Hussein showed interest in a ceasefire that's all the useless UN (and some of the coalition nations) would accept. Guess what, ceasefires only end up killing civilians and solve nothing. The ceasefire was signed, the coalition went home and Hussein was deemed the victor as far as the Arab world was concerned.

To me, any "diplomat" who is willing to push for a ceasefire should just admit that they would rather see children starved to death than stand up to a tyrant.

Actually col, it's the attitude that we should just up and leave and that there is no hope that will lose this war.  Keep repeating your talking points, Bush will surely not get elected again in '08.

ParaTed2K

Idiot Colonel, if Bush 41 never had any intention to continue the push into Baghdad why was my unit in Southern Iraq with orders to establish Log Base Romeo to support just such a push? The fact is the coalition had EVERY intention to topple Hussein.

What stopped us? Diplomacy!

YOU Idiot - Why did Bush 41 stop from invading Iraq? Because he was advised that to invade Iraq would most likely create instability in Iraq, would create hate for the U.S. in the Moslem World and would get our military bogged down in a Moslem Country. These are the SAME warnings that that Bush 43 was given by people like Baker, Powell and Armitage. The difference between Bush 41 and 43 is that 43 did not listen to these warnings ALL OF WHICH have proven CORRECT. The idiot is Bush 43 and anyone that supports him!!!!!

Yesterday an attempt to kill the U.N Secretary General and today to kill the Dept. Prime Minister of Iraq. ANYONE that believes we are moving forward to secure Iraq and end the Civil War that rages in that country is nuts. There is another article that says there is not enough safe drinking water in Iraq which is causing disease. The continued violence has prevented the production and distribution of something as essential as safe drinking water. This is a LOST cause and the sooner we leave the better!

It is time for the Iraqi’s to END the violence. WHEN WE LEAVE, this Civil War will continue and most likely escalate until one side or the other establishes both political and military control of Iraq or it is partitioned into two or three separate countries.