What is this war really about?

The tangled webs of calus bellis

This whole war on terror thing seems rather all over the place doesn't it at times? What does Iraq have to do with 9/11? Americans asked the same questions in 1942 when Americans were attacking French soldiers in North Africa -- what did France have to do with Pearl Harbor?

Wars only seem neat and tidy in hindsight. Only when all the facts and information are publicly available after the events are over can the tangled web of a global strategy be made to make sense.

This war is no exception and because of the complexities of international relations in this day and age, the strategy is even more convoluted. So here is my succinct way of explaining what the US strategy is based on the past 2 and a half years of following these details on a daily basis.

On 9/11 thousands of Americans were murdered by Islamic extremists who crashed planes into buildings and such. This was really the culmination of nearly a decade long series of attacks by the same group of extremists calling themselves Al Qaeda.

As a response, the USA declared war on all international terrorist organizations and the states that support them. Iraq, Iran, and North Korea were explicitly put on notice in early 2002 as the "Axis of Evil" as states that support terrorism. Contrary to some claims, Iraq was never linked to be part of the 9/11 attack, they were simply one of the leading overt funders of international terrorism.

The first battle was in Afghanistan which was to remove the Taliban regime which actively supported and aided the specific group responsible for 9/11. Once the Taliban regime was removed, the US moved to stage 2 which can be described as "draining the swamp" phase. That is, trying to change the environment in that part of the world that creates terrorists.

Part of that stage 2 plan was to remove Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Iraq had been funding terrorism and it was believed (correctly as the Kay report makes clear) that Saddam had WMD programs that, eventually, would have yielded serious weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) which could then be delivered to terrorist organizations who would be more than happy to deliver them to the United States.  It was also believed (wrongly as the Kay report makes clear) that Iraq had vast stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons that could in the short term be used against the US. These stockpiles were, unfortunately, used by political leaders to create a sense of "imminent threat". This was particularly the case in Britain where Tony Blair explicitly made the case that Saddam was an imminent threat (in the US, Iraq was not pushed as an imminent threat as much as simply a threat that the US could no longer tolerate in a post-9/11 world).

So the US and its allies (UK, Australia, etc.) went into Iraq with the primary objective to remove Saddam and as a secondary objective to "drain the swamp" by putting into place a stable government that would, ideally, be a representative democracy (the same thing they're trying to do in Afghanistan).

If you look at a map of the region, there are 5 major sources of terrorists (or were): Going east to west you had Afghanistan. Then Iran. Then Iraq. Then Saudi Arabia. And finally Syria.  If these 5 states can be converted to stable representative democracies, it is believed that the terrorist problem will largely dry up (or at least be degraded to a manageable point).

Diplomatically, the United States can't just go east to west overthrowing regimes. It has to have a casus belli (justification to satisfy international sensibilities).  9/11 gave it a casus belli for Afghanistan. The UN resolutions against Iraq and violation of the 1991 cease fire gave the US a casus belli in Iraq (barely).  But there isn't one for Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia.  That brings us to phase 3:

The Bush administration's goal is to make Afghanistan and Iraq stable prosperious open societies that will increase the rate of westernization of Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Syria in the hopes that those countries will open up and become less repressive (or as Dr. Rice put it "End the freedom deficit").  I am skeptical, especially given the idiocy of a handful of US soldiers in their horrific mistreatment of Iraqi POWs, that this is an achieveable goal.

I fear that the US won't be able to do what really needs to be done in the middle east until a major US city is destroyed by a nuclear weapon smuggled in by terrorists from Iran, Syria, or Saudi Arabia. At whic point, gentler responses will no longer be available.

For Americans such as myself, that is really what this is all about. in the 90s it was bombs and such against US personnel overseas. In 2001 it was the spectacular hijacking and crashing into the world's largest buildings murdering thousands. What we don't want to see is in the 2010s nuclear weapons being smuggled in by these same groups. That is the end goal - to stop these groups now or at least try our best.

 

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Thanks Brad - very helpful - thanks for your reply on the other blog - I guess you started writing that and thought other people must be as clueless as this trina chick. I think I can get my head around that - well explained - like a dad (no offence intended)
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Dad's just seem to know everything!!!
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You're certainly not clueless. I would argue that the Bush administration has been pretty incompotent at explaining why its men and women are dying on the other side of the world.
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And to be fair, this is the first post of yours that outlines things in a good sensible fasion without a large political slant.  If only the Bush administration could get their angle as well 

I still disagree fundmentally though.  Because while, on the surface it seems like it's a good idea to be proactive there is SO much room for mistakes that would instantly turn the USA into the bad guy.  It's a very dangerous game.

Personally I'd rather be the victum that tries to right the wrongs that are done to me, rather than the proactive aggressor that is resented and misunderstood and winds up with a slew of enemies.

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geez.....prob the best laid out conspiracy theory in quite some time...lol...Blade....I'm amazed you didnt include the 'Smurfs' in the plot as well......frankly Israel would never go that far to achieve their goals.....for fear their yearly aid from the US might dry up....as for kays report he does cite instances where Iraq was in material breach....but the general press has somewhat glossed over them in favor of the "no stockpiles" quote.......by the way....Israel has been the wests terrorist filter since its creation......while they have been dealing with this problem for some time...the rest of the world lives in an almost illusionary vision of reality.....9/11 burst that bubble..although many nations have yet to awaken from their drunken stupor......

as for Drag.....congrads on an interesting and well thoughtout article....and i agree with most of it
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I think I'll be editing and blacklisting Blade. Not sure what's worse, that he's regurgitating propaganda (literally copying and pasting) or that he couldn't even be bothered to frmat it.
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im still confused about americans attacking french forces in north africa in 1942 and it has nothing at all to do with the pearl harbor connection (with the exception of this issue, i dont recall ever reading or hearing anything that would lead me to conclude the public--with the possible exception of regional bund movements--had difficulty connecting the dots vis-a-vis pearl harbor and the subsequent declaration of war on the axis powers). when and where did american troops engage french forces during the campaign for north africa? how many casualties did each side suffer? although i hate to be presumptious in an area in which im totally in the dark, im guessing we prevailed. who commanded the french forces and how was the matter resolved?
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Nice article Brad.

As you say it's a pity the administration didn't take this approach in being clear concise and honest from the start about why. Sure they may have lost some potential allies who just couldn't justify war on those terms/ideals but they may have gained others.

I also think they should have clearly separated the primary 'remove Saddam/Taliban' stage from the secondary 'drain the swamp/install democracy' stages. This would have allowed them to initiate the primary stages on their own or with just a few supporters. Then they could start the rebuilding stage as an international mission and have the entire international community behind the rebuilding procecss. By not clearly separating them they ended up with over half the planet against them and lots of 'anti-war' protests despite the fact taht everyone agrees that Iraq needs help to rebuild.

Hindsight is nice.

Paul.
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"I fear that the US won't be able to do what really needs to be done in the middle east until a major US city is destroyed by a nuclear weapon smuggled in by terrorists from Iran, Syria, or Saudi Arabia. At whic point, gentler responses will no longer be available."

while i share your concern about the end result, smuggling may not be required. an la times article published on 4/27/2004 reported the following after the energy department admitted it was curently (finally) reviewing proposals to improve protection by consolidating the sites where the government stored plutonium and highly enriched uranium.

"Llast year, the Energy Department has increased its assumptions about the size and firepower of terrorist teams that could assault itslabs. Government officials now say that anyone bent on attack probably could use high-powered explosives to punch holes though reinforced concrete walls and then be able to penetrate razor wire fencing and defeat the most sophisticated electronic surveillance systems.

But the General Accounting Office, an arm of Congress, will report today that the threat posed by terrorists against the nation's weapons labs is estimated by intelligence agencies to be far more lethal than what the Energy Department has accepted in its most recent planning for security.

The bomb-making materials at Livermore have received particular attention, based on concerns about the site's vulnerabilities. The materials are kept in a fenced area known as the Superblock, situated about a quarter-mile from a residential tract.

Unlike the security forces at other weapons sites, Livermore's personnel do not have certain high-powered weapons, door-breaching explosives or helicopters to defend the site. Superblock is packed into the dense Livermore complex, making it tougher to defend than remote facilities, security experts said.

The most serious concern is that a highly trained suicide terrorist team could penetrate Superblock or any Energy Department site and construct a crude bomb known as an improvised nuclear device.
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reading this i was reminded once again of an article i read just before midnight on 9/10/2001 about bush's determination to implement the missle defense system. all i could do was shake my head and wonder what the hell he was thinking.

whatever this war is about--and whatever else is ultimately won or lost--it is consuming vital resources and diverting our attention from dangers of much greater magnitude.
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Where's Art Bell and David Icke when you need them?

VES
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Thanks for the blog and replies, its good to get another slant on this rather than the pasturised hijacked Media re runs.
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KingBe: Re WW2, my recommendation is to pick up "A World at Arms". It's considered one of the preeminent history books on WW2 and talks about the French in North Africa.  The French were nominally a Nazi ally from 1940 to 1944. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0521558794/qid=1083940763/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-9721652-2718261?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

 

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The most serious concern is that a highly trained suicide terrorist team could penetrate Superblock or any Energy Department site and construct a crude bomb known as an improvised nuclear device.


I don't think you can just whip up a nuke in a couple hours though.... I'm sure there would be a swift response to a security breach at sucha facility.
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MacGuiver could!
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You're certainly not clueless. I would argue that the Bush administration has been pretty incompotent at explaining why its men and women are dying on the other side of the world.

Is this Brad Wardell saying this, that's amazing I never thought I would see you say Bush and incompotent in the same sentence, just kidding.
But seriously this was a great article explaining why we are supposed to be over there, it was also fair and balanced. Like I have said before I like the outcome they have envisioned but the way they are handling it has been less than satisfactory. The whole nuclear bomb going off reminds me of that movie Sum of All Fears which painted a catastrophic picture. I just hope that we won't have to experience a nightmare like that in order to justify ending terrorism in all the countries you listed.
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psychx: I'm not a fan of Bush. I don't think he's a bad President though and I think he's trying to do a good job. I do think that there is an amazing amount of hubris though in the defense department.

The amount of actual influence a nation can project away from its borders is actually not that much. So the administratin's perceived arrogance by the residents in that part of the world will have much more impact in the long term, I fear, than building a school.

To put it another way, with regards to products, marketing/distribution is always more important than the actual quality of the product. The "Quality" in this instance has to do with the actual US action. The marketing/distribution has to do with how the overall society is exposed to that product (or not). 

Most Iraqi's haven't even had contact with a US soldier. They get what they knwo about it from the media and word of mouth. The US has, IMO, fatally wrecked taht aspect. Not just from the POW abuse mess but right from the start with Bremer getting rid of the Iraqi military.

It was hubris for Bush's team to believe that they would get a post-World War II like shot at reshaping Iraq with Bremer acting as some sort of MacCarthur type figure. I am convinced that this was the kind of moldling power the US believed it had in Iraq which was just lunacy.

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I agree whether it was influenced by this administration's ideology is no longer the concern but whether reshaping Iraq is even a possible outcome under the tension that we are under. The way they have made this "product" or war look in the eyes of the world is terrible thanks to the military planning before the war.

So the administratin's perceived arrogance by the residents in that part of the world will have much more impact in the long term, I fear, than building a school


Especially when they are told what to believe by their own corrupt clerics, the power of influence on Iraq's people unfortunately is greater than there understanding of democracy. I think Bush is trying to leave a legacy behind, considering all the things he has promised such as going back to the moon, bringing peace in the middle east and reshaping Iraq into a democratic state. He has a grand vision for himself but whether some of these things are even possible under the current state of the U.S. is what he should think about and actually think of the long term before he promises anything.
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first of all, thanks for pointing me towards information bout the allies liberating french north africa. i was also able to locate some first person accounts. i'm passing familiar with the vichy regime; just never considered its impact on morocco, algeria and tunisia (other than ungarte's premature demise). still, i'm not sure it supports your analogy well. without demeaning the efforts or sacrifices on either side, the campaign is barely more than a footnote in the overall scheme. since france was occupied, any confusion regarding a french connection to japan's attack on pearl harbor would have also extended to norway, holland, belgium, poland, etc.

To put it another way, with regards to products, marketing/distribution is always more important than the actual quality of the product. The "Quality" in this instance has to do with the actual US action. The marketing/distribution has to do with how the overall society is exposed to that product (or not).

in the short term, availability and awareness may trump quality but its only sustainable when and if all competing products vary only slightly in terms of their perceived value. in iraq it's a moot argument because we've dropped the ball in both areas. while im in total agreement that hubris is the underlying problem, purging the baathists was essential (iraq's modern history offers overwhelming evidence for that). bremer did the right thing at exactly the wrong time and in exactly the wrong way (in a strategic vacuum). unfortunately, im afraid that rehabilitating the revolutionary guard now is the exact next worse choice available to us.

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I don't think you can just whip up a nuke in a couple hours though.... I'm sure there would be a swift response to a security breach at sucha facility

a few too many people didnt think you could take over several commercial passenger jets simultaneously and use them in a coordinated kamikaze attack. nor did anyone think the twin towers of the wtc could be totally demolished before lunch.

livermore laboratory's relatively vulnerable superblock building contains weapons-grade material. according to energy department experts, once a team of well-trained terrorists gained entry, they could rapidly assemble a nuclear device powerful enough to level the surrounding city and wipe out tens of thousands of alameda county residents.
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"What does Iraq have to do with 9/11?"

Probably nothing...

"What does Iraq have to do with the War on Terror?"

Everything...
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"What does Iraq have to do with 9/11?"

Probably nothing...

"What does Iraq have to do with the War on Terror?"

Everything...


Because.....
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MacGuiver could!


Nice one

Good article ...ty for explaining things so well.

I am guilty of what probably alot of Aussies are ..which is viewing these things as onlookers ..you cleared up alot of things for me.

But ...why do eastern countries need to be westernised?

Jess