Will Hillary Kill to Win?

Found Dead on a toilet?

I received this today via email and was shocked at the number of deaths surrounding the Clintons and had to ask myself.... is this normal? Yes they are in the spotlight, and they do have alot of contacts. But is this normal to have sooooo many people die some in very mysterious ways, or is it just another Clinton basher trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Is this a "right wing" conspiracy? You decide.

Food for Thought---------
Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has
happened to many "friends"of the Clintons.

1-James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner
died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary
confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's
investigation.

2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered
July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The
murder happened just after she was to go public with her
story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3- Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and
colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law
firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC
Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane
crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported
that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull
resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown
was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his
willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the
people on the plane also died. A few days later the air
Traffic controller commited suicide.

5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the
Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane
crash in July 1992.

6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political
Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock,
September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and
trusted advisor".

7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993
deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head.
Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife
Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval
office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several
Clinton fund raising events.

8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team
in Little Rock.
Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside
Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a
dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this
information. After he died the files were mysteriously
removed from his house.

9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported
that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names
of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and
Arkansas.

10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an
apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to
Whitewater.

11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny
Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room
with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even
though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were
going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along
with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson
was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of
Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his
fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound
also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater,
died by jumping out a window of a tall building January,
1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14-Florence Martin - Accountant &sub-contractor for the CIA
, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling
case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton
when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot
wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was
pregnant at the time of her death.

16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf
from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a
one car accident.

17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating
Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He
slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his
investigation.

18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena
Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was
found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC
apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks
before his death.

19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for
Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his
Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He
was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked
closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death
unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was
found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who
gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly
thereafter in a small plane crash.

22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic
Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve
Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to
serving on Clinton's advisory council, personally treated
Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas,
death was no accident.

24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to
Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop.
He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His
death was a purported suicide and his report was never
released.

26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died
March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27-Kevin Ives &Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track"
case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena
Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the
initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on
railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been
slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the
case died before their testimony could come before a Grand
Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY
CASE:

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the
back of a truck, 7/88.

29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988.

30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in
a trash dump in April 1989.

33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner
ruled his death was due to "natural causes".

34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front
seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths.
He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
40-Major General William Robertson
41-Col. William Densberger
42-Col. Robert Kelly
43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
44-Steve Willis
45-Robert Williams
46-Conway LeBleu
47-Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list!
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Reply #1 Top
You can check this out further on truth and fiction...here's the link...

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/clintonfriends.htm






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James McDougal: Suffered from heart disease and blocked arteries. He had ALREADY cooperated and told them everything he knew and gotten his deal for a reduced sentence. If he was killed, it is odd that they waited until he'd already given everything he knew.

I could go on, but you could just check snopes about these silly emailings and save us the typing.
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My god... when you people are slandering, they don't do it in half, don't you?

Two days ago, it was Obama who went to a radical muslim school. Now, it's Bill Clinton's death list. Do you expect full writer rights on this one?
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"Two days ago, it was Obama who went to a radical muslim school. Now, it's Bill Clinton's death list. Do you expect full writer rights on this one?"


This has been circulating since 1998.
Reply #5 Top
but you could just check snopes about these silly emailings and save us the typing.


But if she didn't post it and you didn't link to that highly informative and interesting article that punched holes through this whole thing, I wouldn't have ever known about it!
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Two days ago, it was Obama who went to a radical muslim school. Now, it's Bill Clinton's death list. Do you expect full writer rights on this one?

The Clinton list is very old.  The Obama thing is thanks to Hillary.  No vast right wing conspiracy there.  Best to check your facts before calling the kettle black.

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I wouldn't have ever known about it!

If you were on the list, you would not know about it either.

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when you people


you people? Isn't that a name of a group or something?

James McDougal: Suffered from heart disease and blocked arteries.


I could go on, but you could just check snopes about these silly emailings and save us the typing.


yes, I know all about James, but what about the others? Besides Baker, you and I know well....you LOVE to type. You ain't fooling anybody.

Besides, that's why I put the disclaimer in the first comment. Truth or fiction is basically the same as snopes isn't it? According to truth or fiction, some of this is truth and some fiction and some they are still researching. I still think it's a bit strange for so many to die around this couple....not slandering or acusing either....just think it's strange....that's all. I would say the same if it was my next door neighbor.

Best to check your facts before calling the kettle black.


ya, and it's a fact that these people are to put it bluntly, no longer sucking air.

If you were on the list, you would not know about it either


hahahahah and I don't intend to be on any list the Clinton's have....the A list , blacklist or otherwise.



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"According to truth or fiction, some of this is truth and some fiction and some they are still researching."


No, I think the presumption is that there isn't a conspiracy to serial murder until there is proof of one. How many things stay secret in politics? Yet you think someone could kill off half that many people and somehow keep hold of all the players?

Clinton couldn't screw around and keep it a secret. A string of "facts" that don't point to murder... well, don't point to murder.

"I still think it's a bit strange for so many to die around this couple....not slandering or acusing either....just think it's strange....that's all. I would say the same if it was my next door neighbor. "


I could name quite a few people I've known in day-to-day life that are now dead, unfortunately. The older you get the longer that list gets. Then, consider how many people that folks like the Clintons are acquainted with as opposed to nobodies like us. They have to schedule every day to fit in all the people who want to work with them.
Reply #10 Top
The Obama thing is thanks to Hillary.


I though the Insight Magazine was a conservative paper?
Reply #11 Top
though the Insight Magazine was a conservative paper?


What has that got to do with the price of rice in China? They did not dig up the story, they just reported it. Clinton operatives did the digging.
Reply #12 Top
Yet, they haven't bothered to offer a shred of evidence of that, Doc. I'm to the point of believing they, or their source, made it up. I don't believe for a second that they'd hold back on that story if they had the goods.
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Yet, they haven't bothered to offer a shred of evidence of that, Doc. I'm to the point of believing they, or their source, made it up. I don't believe for a second that they'd hold back on that story if they had the goods.


Having watched the clintons over 8 years, I understand that my "belief" is tainted upon the facts of the past "What is is" "I dont recall".

Given a known liar, and one that may be partisan, I chose to believe the known one is lying. But you are right. This is the one in a million case where Hillary may be right.

But number 2 is who has the most to gain from this? Conservatives? Hardly. Obama has not won anything yet. Clinton? Most definitely. He is the front runner.
Reply #14 Top
The problem as I see it is.....whether or not Clinton had anything to do with it is in the wind. However the above stated original thread about the deaths themselves are true and verifiable. So if it "still" makes one wonder. Our government agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA and the rest of the alphabet soup) have killed others just as easily and for a lot less reason.
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It's just that I despise Hillary, i really do. I dunno if I'd despise Obama any less, but damn, the idea of people on our "side" sitting there with information that would show Hillary to have done something like that and not exposing it, well, makes me really mad.

Would they? Given the damage that this has done to FoxNews and others, I can only believe they'd sit on it in order to HELP dems.
Reply #16 Top
I'm curious why, if you knew that there were errors and misinformation in the list, you chose to post it AS IS instead of clarifying and pointing out mistakes.

Maybe because you WANT it all to be true?

I know I'm being harsh with you, but people posting untrue, sensationalist crap that gullible people are all to eager to believe without researching is something that bothers me immensely.
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I had an uncle who voted for Bush in 1992, and he is now dead.

I KNOW the Clintons did it! I just KNOW it!!
Reply #18 Top
Would they? Given the damage that this has done to FoxNews and others, I can only believe they'd sit on it in order to HELP dems.


I dont see any damage to Fox. Insight? Perhaps. But as I said, the one to benefit is Clinton, and no one else at this point. Follow the money.
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Huh? Lol, Fox News has taken severe hits for this. Steve Ducey and John Gibson. They ran with it before they even bothered looking into it. They stuck with it long after CNN started drilling them about it on their own shows.

Take a look at a Google search of "Fox Obama"
Reply #20 Top
I'm no fan of the Clintons and desperately hope Hillary doesn't win, but stopping to calling them murderers without proof is pretty low.

I didn't like the Swift Boat vets, I didn't like the Bush National Guard attacks, and I do NOT like this!
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Huh? Lol, Fox News has taken severe hits for this. Steve Ducey and John Gibson. They ran with it before they even bothered looking into it. They stuck with it long after CNN started drilling them about it on their own shows.

Take a look at a Google search of "Fox Obama"


Like CNN/CBS/ABC/NBC's goofs? Like I said, not a big hit. Does anyone still talk about rathergate? At least Fox can point fingers. The others cannot.
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I didn't like the Swift Boat vets,


Why? That was not and is not a political movement. It is and was a statement by his fellow veterans that would never have seen the light of day if he had not dragged them into the whole mess. Simply put, that was a bunch of guys saying "you dont speak for me". The MSM made it out to be a right wing hit squad. It never was.
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Why? That was not and is not a political movement. It is and was a statement by his fellow veterans that would never have seen the light of day if he had not dragged them into the whole mess.


Sorry, Dr., if you look into the whole thing it was DEFINITELY a political smear campaign.
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Sorry, Dr., if you look into the whole thing it was DEFINITELY a political smear campaign.


With respect, I did. It was a bunch of guys that did not want to be used in a political fluff job. To date, no one has proved anything they said to be false. Or even misleading.
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Sorry, Doc. Gotta disagree with you on this one. I'm no fan of John Kerry, but if we want to get the crap out of politics, we need to get rid of both sides.

I didn't research this extensively, but hit a few high ranked searches to get these responses. I will admit the dubious nature of my first source, as it is from the Wikipedia article, and the first two paragraphs should be investigated further, as Joe Klein is the source. I do, however, have to ask why Klein's New Yorker article went unchallenged if it was untrue.

The following are from the Wiki article regarding the genesis of SBVT leader John O'Neill:

The SBVT criticisms against Kerry are not the first time that SBVT leader John E. O'Neill has campaigned against him. [14] Writing in The New Yorker, Joe Klein reported that, in 1971, Richard Nixon's chief counsel Charles Colson formed the Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace, featuring O'Neill, to publicly criticize Kerry.

Klein recounted a conversation with Colson years after the war in which Colson said of Kerry: "He was a thorn in our flesh. He was very articulate, a credible leader of the opposition. He forced us to create a counterfoil. We found a vet named John O'Neill and formed a group called Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace. We had O'Neill meet the President, and we did everything we could do to boost his group."


Going further in the Wiki article:


According to John Gonzalez, the newly formed group hired former-FBI-agent-turned-private-investigator Tom Rupprath, "to locate swift boat vets and to dig up whatever he could regarding Kerry's service record." [23]

John O'Neill told the New York Times that the private investigator was hired as a "neutral way of actually questioning people involved in these incidents." [24]


Assuming there to be even a GRAIN of truth to that, that's a far cry from a group of veterans wanting the truth to be put out there.

Also, the following according to: WWW Link:

While the veterans attacking Kerry in the ad are veterans of the Vietnam War and may have served at the same time as Kerry, as The New York Times reported on August 5, the Kerry campaign noted that "none of the men had actually served on the Swift boats that Mr. Kerry commanded." Adm. Roy F. Hoffman, one of the veterans in the ad, has even "acknowledged he had no first-hand knowledge to discredit Kerry's claims to valor," the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported on May 6, "and said that although Kerry was under his command, he really didn't know Kerry much personally

OK, so to sum up, the leader of this group has a thirty year history of being a political shill to rebut Kerry, the group hired a PI to dig up dirt on Kerry, and none of the men actually served with Kerry. Not a partisan attack at all, Dr.