The ratings issues are being worked on.

the site has been jiggy

nuf said...carry on skinnin' people!

Boys and Girls, it's conspiracy time! break out your tinfoil hats

OK... would someone please clarify something for me please? I understand the policy for placing walls on someone's personal page, but i just had a wall make it thru moderation with a rating of 2 stars and it went to my personal page. is 2 stars and below what goes to personal pages? IMO i think it should be 1 1/2 stars or below. any clarification would be much appreciated.thanks

I am placing the cut-off for personal-page only items at 5/10 points or 2.5/5 stars.  This is an even split down the middle.

thanks Zoomba...I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my question

oh and one more question...if and when a wall gets a higher rating from user votes, will it then come off the personal page and enter the gallery?

.if and when a wall gets a higher rating from user votes, will it then come off the personal page and enter the gallery?

I would guess it's a 'no'..since it would or may require extra/further moderation...either someone who would have to keep track of these walls or respond to every email they get that a wall has gone up in points...but I am curious as to what the official response is.

P.S. while we're waiting...skinhit, you wanna go rate my wall a little higher, just in case

The ratings issues are being worked on.

The ONLY thing I would like to see changed (I can live with what the mods rate my stuff, and all that...even the personal gallery thing) is that a person must comment in order to rate anything.

and as to post #34...what do they do if the rating goes back down...which I have seen on a few of my own things after they have been moderated.

P.S. while we're waiting...skinhit, you wanna go rate my wall a little higher, just in case

i already have...i brought it up to a 2 1/2 the first day i tried bringing it up to 5 stars but i think it keeps record of how many times you vote...sorry Po'

Boy this whole wallpaper thing has really become an issue....i know for a fact that is why Kenwas left WC...

still waiting for a reply to #33

i know for a fact that is why Kenwas left WC...

he's not the first nor the last, it's just that some people you notice, others you don't... it's a big world out there, so many places to show off your art. cya..  

My wife, who has never used art programs before, has been dabbling in making abstract type wallpapers and asked whether or not I'd upload a couple of them on her behalf (as she is not yet a subscriber) to WC - not for downloads or ratings but to seek advice & opinions to help her improve....

Thing is, I know they're unlikely to pass moderation, and being that neither of us has a personal site for them to go to (as yet), that sought after advice/critique isn't gonna happen and she may just give up on the idea entirely after becoming disheartened and/or discouraged through lack of input....

I've actually used a couple of them as backgrounds on my desktop and quite like them ....but that's just one - my opinion and she may think I'm just saying that so I don't have to get my own dinner.

So what's the deal here (given she isn't a subscriber yet) on us having a joint...er, let me rephrase that, shared personal page that I can upload to when logged in. ? Also, would it have to be named starkers@wincustomize dot com or could it be named mr & mrs starkers@wincustomize, being that she can log into Wincustomize but is not yet a subscriber?

We've decided to wait until after our Feb 07 move from Tasmania to Queensland to pay for her WC and ODNT subs....to save the few extra buck we know the removalists (movers, US) will overcharge us. Yup, the cost of moving has almost tripled since I was forced to retire from the profession about 10 years ago....not that personal income/wages have. Talk about inflation....must be related to their trucks having bigger tyres (tires US) and more of 'em than a car....maybe the cost of air went up in line with fuel price rises at the bowser.

****Oi, how about [email protected] 'could' arouse curiosity in the personal site and folks actually seeing these walls? Errr....scrub that!!! Having just looked in the mirror, only the senile and a miniscule minority of desperates would dare to enter....the majority staying away in droves for fear the unimaginable, persistent nightmares and long term therapy/meds. *****

hey Starkers....not that I'm an expert or anything even close, but i would love to see the walls that you speak of and possibly give my input. you can email me if you like mylogic@msndotcom i'd love to help

We've decided to wait until after our Feb 07 move from Tasmania to Queensland to pay for her WC and ODNT subs.

Money is tight here too starkers . . but I'd kick in a few dollars towards a WC sub for you and the missus. Let me know how, I'll let you know how much.

[you can email me by clicking on my name in this post and choosing "Email ZubaZ']

The only time a skin will be moved FROM the personal page to the main gallery is if it comes up for moderation again for a major update.  This is NOT an invitation to resubmit walls previously placed on the personal page after you've had friends vote the wall up a bit.  We can check the ratings records on skins and will spot attempts to manipulate the system.

Kenwas leaving WC had little to do with how the wall section was being moderated and more with the ratings system in general.

moderated

ratings

The two are actually separate to a large degree.

Moderation determines if/where a submission is placed, and gives it an initial, stabilizing rating.

Ratings from that point come from users.  The final score is based on an averaging of ratings given. 

Kenwas leaving WC had little to do with how the wall section was being moderated and more with the ratings system in general.

Kenwas wouldn't of had a problem with moderation as a Journeyman his walls by-passed mod que. Quite often after he put up a wall that went up with an automatic 6 rating - they kept getting d/rated to a 5. He felt someone was doing it for unknown reasons.

The good part is he can always change his mind and return after a break from it all.

IMHO...we've got a thread here initiated by one of the greatest icon artists I've ever witnessed, worried about a wallpaper.

In all truth, there has to be some checks (cheques for starkers) and balances or we'll have total anarchy and smiley faces drawn in MSPaint will populate every gallery! There are some flat out awesome artists here and no one is getting regulated to the personal page EVERY time, or rejected EVERY time...just keep submitting gang...The only reason I have downloads at all is because what's trash to 90% is treasure to the other 10. It takes all kinds...and thankfully, we have them represented here...would be a terrible mess if we all thought, created, and submitted the same stuff. If you're worried no one is looking at the personal pages, just the galleries, then maybe a quick fix would be to better advertise the personal pages. Not something like "see other work by this artist on his/her personal page", but "See more skins and art from this artist in their own personal gallery!" It's all in the wording and where you put the access points to the personal pages.

end tirade (ramble for starkers)

Here's a thought (yes, I get them once in awhile and they are often very lonely up there)...what if we also had the option to upload directly to our personal page without any rating? Maybe, just to avoid the gallery or ratings all together? Some people, who have a problem with the whole rating thing might like that.

Like I said, it's just a thought..oops...there it goes. Ahh, I can hear the ocean when it's empty.

hey Starkers....not that I'm an expert or anything even close, but i would love to see the walls that you speak of and possibly give my input. you can email me if you like mylogic@msndotcom i'd love to help

Money is tight here too starkers . . but I'd kick in a few dollars towards a WC sub for you and the missus. Let me know how, I'll let you know how much.

Thank you both very much for your kind thoughts & generosity, it is much appreciated.

I've got a few things to do first, but I'll email you both a little later this evening (Fri night Oz time).

There already is an option box to check if you want something to be personal-page only.

You learn something new everyday.

Thanks Zoomba!