Oh i did, at least the parts that pertain to this thread anyway and what is horrifying is the way you massacred the stats and poll to fit your own racist agenda.
I dont see anywhere a definition of what "in defence of Islam" actually means to "them" or "us". What's considered a threat to Islam?
Im sure if you were to take a survey that asked Americans "Do you believe civilian casualties are acceptable when attacking a target in defence of Americas national interest?" an over whelming majority would report back "Yes" Absolutely.
Do you believe 30,000 civilian casualties are acceptable in the war in Iraq?
I like the subtle distortion in your paraphrasing from "violence against civilian targets" to "intentionally murdering innocents". In fact given the definition of paraphrasing you couldn't actually call it that at all. Did you do that to make it seem more visceral?
You've also condenced 3 different degrees of acceptable down into 1. I.e Often Justified / Sometimes Justified / Rarely Justifed now just becomes Acceptable. As In Always. Much easier to stack the stats and draw on an emotional response that way isn't it?
And you've also twisted in "defence of Islam" into "In the name of Islam". i.e From defender to aggressor. Nice.
And just to be clear what you phrase as "In many Islam countries" is drawn from a poll of 10 muslim communities around the world of which only 3 responded with the views you attempt to outline right? |
Why is it that dumb people have to use the word racist to describe things that obviously have nothing to do with race?
Islam is a religion/ideology. It is not a race. Anyone can be a Muslim. Even you.
Saying that someone is racist for opposing Islamism is like saying someone is racism for opposing Communism or Nazism.
Im sure if you were to take a survey that asked Americans "Do you believe civilian casualties are acceptable when attacking a target in defence of Americas national interest?" an over whelming majority would report back "Yes" Absolutely.
Do you believe 30,000 civilian casualties are acceptable in the war in Iraq? |
OR you could actually have a poll like what was just presented:
"Do you believe it okay to target civilians in order to defend US interests can be justified" I suspect you would find that the results would be incredibly low. I.e. low single digits.
Is there ANYONE here, a single person who thinks it is "sometimes" justifiable to target civilians to defend US interests. The key word here is interests not the US since the question isn't about defending your house, home or nation but rather an ideology/interest/religion.
So yes, please, anyone reading this, if YOU think it is okay to target civilians for US interests speak up. I know I certainly don't support targeting civilians for US interests.
30,000 Iraqi civilians have died. How many by US forces? How many intentionally by US forces? The poll isn't very complicated, it asks if it's okay to TARGET civilians. Not if it is acceptable if civilians happen to die in the process of defending something. TARGET is the operative word.
I like the subtle distortion in your paraphrasing from "violence against civilian targets" to "intentionally murdering innocents". In fact given the definition of paraphrasing you couldn't actually call it that at all. Did you do that to make it seem more visceral?
You've also condenced 3 different degrees of acceptable down into 1. I.e Often Justified / Sometimes Justified / Rarely Justifed now just becomes Acceptable. As In Always. Much easier to stack the stats and draw on an emotional response that way isn't it? |
Please let me know what the distinction is between targeting civilians and murdering innocents? First, I don't see any distinction. Secondly, the gist of the article was pretty clear -- when is it okay to blow up busses and restraunts in order to murder civilians in the name of Islam?
Given that I posted the actual poll, I wasn't hiding anything. I think most people can make the conclusion that you either are against it or you are in favor of it. To me, the degrees are kind of irrelevant. I'm willing to come right out and say that I don't support targeting civilians for ANY ideology or concept under any circumstances. I think it's a yes or no type thing and expressed it as such.
| I dunno why you just dont write an article entitled "I hate Muslims, I really fucking hate them" and be done with it. Because its clear that you do. |
I don't hate Muslims. I don't really "hate" anything. I loathe Islam as an ideology and will continue to do what I can in my own small way to make sure are aware that it is Islamism that we are fighting against and to make sure PC propaganda hasn't made people dismiss the threat that Islamism poses to our way of life.
