Democrats win the house!

And so it begins...

I can't say I'm happy that Republicans have lost the house of representatives.  I went out and voted today. My votes tended to be for Republicans overall. I don't consider myself to be a Republican but given the choices, I'm going to vote for the people who come closest to representing my views as long as they have worked within a certain threshold of what my expectations are.

Since I'm in Michigan, in Wayne County, that basically means that the incumbants are Democrats anyway.

Nation wide the Republicans didn't just lose. They got CRUSHED. What conservatives have been warning the GOP about for months has finally come to pass.  Only in the last month did the GOP wake up and realize just how pissed off the right of center population of the United States is. They're pissed off at what appears to be corrupt and lazy Republicans who don't represent their values anymore.

When they right did wake up, GOP idealogues like Rush Limbaugh had the audacity to blame US for the GOP's problems. In a text book case of shoot the messenger, GOP labeled me and others like me as "cut and run conservatives" for daring to say that given how poorly the GOP has been in the house (and senate) that it wouldn't be the end of the world if the Democrats win.

Well, now they have. The Democrats are in charge and in the next two years we'll get to see if, once in power again, behave like a bunch of fringe kooks like so many of their leaders and supporters are. Or whether it will be, as many of us expect, not quite as bad as one might think.

So...

Why did the Republicans lose?

  1. Their base didn't come out in strength. The house Republicans, who once promised to get rid of things like the Department of Education saw instead a huge increase in funding. In fact, money for pork was available all around. The GOP, in power, decided that our money was really their money after all. Worse, they didn't get very much done. Only at the 11th hour did they finally -- and only because of the election -- finally throw some meat back to their supporters in the form of a border security policy which wasn't even comprehensive (not that I favor Bush's quasi-amnesty plan but we do need vastly increased guest worker programs).
  2. The war in Iraq motivated many moderates and Democrats to come out. I happen to be in the camp that supported the war and is still glad we removed Saddam. But I am scratching my head as to why, exactly, are we still there "nation building" 3 years later.  The entire thing has been handled poorly by the administration since the end of major combat operations. Absolutely incompotently.  And many moderates who might tend to vote Republican decided to vote for Democrats to send a very clear message that they're pissed off too.
  3. Incredibly biased media coverage. This is a story that will probably not get told but it has gotten out in some channels just how left-wing the major media in the US has become.  For instance, for the first time in history, the New York Times did not endorse a single Republican house or senate candidate. Not one. That's how far left it's drifted and the NY Times is pretty representative (I think) of the major news outlets.  They have done an effective job of making Iraq look far worse than it actually is, have managed to not report the excellent economy we currently have, and have managed to ignore scandals by Democrats while spending weeks and weeks on things like Foley.

But really, item #3 only mattered because the Republicans had botched 1 and 2. And they paid for it.

Now, between now and 2008 we can see IF the right-wing fear mongering comes true. As a reminder so that we can come back to this...

The Republicans have claimed the Democrats will do the following:

  1. Pull us out of Iraq prematurely by cutting off funding.
  2. Raise taxes.
  3. Force Bush to only nominate moderate Supreme Court Justices.
  4. They will attempt to impeach Bush.

There were others but these are 3 that are most easily verified by 2008.

So what should the Republicans do between now and 2008? Well first they should pray that the Democrats act like deranged kooks. But failing that, they need to recognize that conservatives expect a lot from their representatives and if you want to represent us, you better be ready to get off your ass and do it and do it in a way that serves our interests (balanced budgets, lower taxes, secure borders, smaller government, not toadying up to incompetent Presidents, etc.).  Sure, the Democrats won't serve our interests either. But they're not pretending to be likely to get our votes.

 

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I think my 15% as a Libertarian also stems from some of the same issues...but that 15% may have taken me from a "blip on the radar screen" of the LP to being a serious player. I'll post the numbers once they're final.
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Oh please you got what you deserved. How a guy who plays 4x games can be pro -Republican when most of the science in these games is not allowed by Republican religious beliefs...is beyond me. Try and explain Jesus to the Zeta Reticulan with the fusion laser.

The Minimum Wage Increase the Eminant Domain Protections Democrats placed on the local ballots. Blew your Stupid, Ignorant, Rascist, Ideas like Anti-Gay Marriage and Anti-Illegal Immigration.

And we won't Impeach Bush right away will give him a choice. If he vetos any of the Progressive Socialists policies like oh a National Health Care Plan. THEN we will impeach him.



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Since you decided to call me a racist, which I've never said anything that justifies it, you're banned. Consider yourself impeached.

 

Signed the Agnostic, pro-civil unions for gays, pro massive guest worker program, right of center independent voter who also owns the site and has very limited tolerance for being personally libeled on his own site.
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True, it was the Republican's House to maintain and they didn't convince the people they deserved a second chance.  The question now, how long before Pelosi starts breaking her promises to not impeach Prs. Bush, be "bipartisan" and oversee "the most open, honest and ethical" House in History?

Congratulations to the Democrats for getting the votes!!

 

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1. Pull us out of Iraq prematurely by cutting off funding.
2. Raise taxes.
3. Force Bush to only nominate moderate Supreme Court Justices.
4. They will attempt to impeach Bush.


Actually, this now-former Republican doesn't have a problem with 3 out of 4 of those.

Ideas like Anti-Gay Marriage and Anti-Illegal Immigration.


Interestingly in Arizona, the "marriage protection" amendment lost even though the (sometimes extremist) anti-illegal immigrant measures passed.

The question now, how long before Pelosi starts breaking her promises to not impeach Prs. Bush, be "bipartisan" and oversee "the most open, honest and ethical" House in History?


As someone said in the comments section of one of Brad's Limbaugh articles, it's not a foregone conclusion Pelosi will by the majority leader. Murtha said tonight he intends to get the position.
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As someone said in the comments section of one of Brad's Limbaugh articles, it's not a foregone conclusion Pelosi will by the majority leader. Murtha said tonight he intends to get the position.
 

Oh great, are fall back is a coward!!  He deserves nothing but our SPIT!

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Now the real fun begins. Have you ever been on a job where one person sat back, watching the rest, constantly critiquing? They know the best way to do this and that, and if only you'd let them, they'd have it done in a heartbeat?

Well, here's the shovel Dems. You have two years before the cows start coming home.
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I didn't have much of a doubt they would win the House. I still don't believe this was a major victory for the democrats. If you listened to the democratic media, and the democratic hacks here, you would have thought the GOP would have lost every race there was. Personally, I don't care and even part of me had hoped they did win. Why? Because this power will go to their heads faster than you can imagine. You think the looney left was vocal before, wait until now. They will bog down the House with endless investigations, impeachment, etc. This will make our win that much simpler in '08. Another reason is now democrats might actually have to do something instead of whining and complaining about everything. What ideas are the democrats going to push through? I also can't wait to see how the democrats here try to defend the democrats now that they have some power.
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Sorry, I meant to finish making fun of the "Rascist" thing but I hit Enter.

I wish there was some realistic gauge to measure how much time was spent on the Foley scandal. I know I didn't spend weeks thinking about it, but I don't watch the TV news so I have no idea.
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How a guy who plays 4x games can be pro -Republican when most of the science in these games is not allowed by Republican religious beliefs...is beyond me.

So since some democrats are satanists, we can conclude from your logic that the Democrats are the party of Satanists?

I dont know what is going to happen in the next few years, but with kooks like S1, it sure is going to be fun to watch them implode!

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The great thing is now democrats will have to deliver on their promise of "change". Change meaning: Cut and run from Iraq Going back to recession Making the stock market dive Raising taxes Giving rights to terrorists
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And we won't Impeach Bush right away will give him a choice. If he vetos any of the Progressive Socialists policies like oh a National Health Care Plan. THEN we will impeach him.


HA-HA! You can try! WE still control the senate! And you need the senate to run the trail. How many republicans do you think will do that?
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Personally I think it is a good thing the Republicans lost. Why? Because power corrupts, and it showed. It is healthy for a democracy if the power changes hands every so often. And given the limited real power the Democrats obtained, even Republicans should be grateful with this opportunity to finally clean their own house. They have been given two years. Lets hope they'll spent it well.
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Because power corrupts, and it showed. It is healthy for a democracy if the power changes hands every so often.

Tough love on a national scale.  But you are right.  The republicans forgot who they were.

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I worry now that Dems have the house and maybe the Senate that our troops will be yanked out of Afghanistan and Iraq.  Now on the surface that sounds good.  My husband gets to come home.  But, its like having someone come into your house to spray for termites...then making them leave when they start drilling holes in the foundation to treat the problem.

So we leave and then my sons, your sons, get to go back later and do it all over again, maybe with a draft.

This concerns me.

 

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As someone said in the comments section of one of Brad's Limbaugh articles, it's not a foregone conclusion Pelosi will by the majority leader. Murtha said tonight he intends to get the position.


You are right that Murtha said he was going after the Majority Leader position, but Pelosi will almost certainly be the Speaker of the House. They are two separate leadership positions. Hastert is the current Speaker and Boehner is the current Majority Leader.
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WE still control the senate!


How do you still control the Senate? Right now it is a tie (49 and 49) with two undecided seats that are currently leaning toward to the Democrats. Do you have information that no one else is privy to?
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i think you missed a major factor in yesterday's election brad.

the culture of corruption. the abramoff scandal, the foley / hastert scandal, bob ney, jeffords (democrat, but the party in power usually takes the hit), duke cunningham, the mishandling of katrina followed by (heck of a job brownie!) cronyism, billions of dollars just "lost" in Iraq & afghanastan with no accountability, abu ghirab, the loss of habeas corpus without a fight, ignoring the FISA court, 750 "signing statements" which go beyond the usual congratulatory stuff, and th ewhole arrogant "we can do whatever we want" mentality that the administration has not only done, but bragged about and shoved in everyone else's face over the past several years.

now the democrats have gotten their piece of the power pie. the dog has caught the car.

now it's time for them to get to work. i expect 2008 to be a refferendum on what happens between now and the presidential election.

personally tho, i look forward to writing some non political stuff for a littel while after this wraps up.

any calls on the 2 senate races???. i think the dems get em both. usually the guy ahead before the recount is the guy ahead after the recount. not always, but most of the time. and as time passes, the gaps are widening, which is not good for allen or burns.
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no one controls the senate. this is wrong

As long as Cheney is the tie breaker...well you decide.

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As long as Cheney is the tie breaker...well you decide.

currently, the official count is 49-49, with the 2 independents caucussing w/ the democrats. in the 2 contested races, both of the democrats are up in the tally. for both, it is expected that the remaining votes are from more pro democratic areas. if they win both, cheney is irrelevant.
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Funny that the conservative party lost because it wasn't conservative enough...

I agree the media is a serious problem. I don't care what the people vote for, as long as they're informed from a non-biased media source (a dying breed)
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the culture of corruption


If you only see corruption on one side, you'd better take the eyepatch off.