Closeted Dems call GOP liars about Dem tax increases

I did find his title amusing, but since I dont feed the troll, I have no clue which dementia he is suffering from this particular time.

Gotta love the closeted Dems.  They just can't bring themselves out of the closet to admin they're Dems, and can't admit that they have a very itchy trigger finger waiting to pull the trigger on as many tax increases, ooops, I mean opportunities for new revenues for the Government, as they can.

James Webb, candidate for the U.S. Senate, running in Virginia has said the government needs more revenue. What part of more revenue is misunderstood to NOT mean new or higher existing taxes?

don't conservatives contend that lowering taxes generates more revenue? charging that webb using the word revenue must mean that he means taxes is not proof of anything.

What part of the prior statements by Charlie Rangel regarding eliminating the Bush tax-cuts are not equatable to being a increase in taxes for at least some individuals in this country

charlie rangel has said that he wants to put all the tax cuts "on the table."

1st off, tht means to 1 by 1 re-examine those. that doesn't mean repeal them all.

2nd, do you honestly think charlie rangel has the sole power to do anything?

your premise is hyperbole at best imho.

Sean Conners - the names I mentioned are just the tip of the iceberg.  John Kerry, Teddy Kennedy and a host of other names on the Democratic side of the aisle have mentioned repealing the Bush tax-cuts many times along the way.

It seems to me that your statements are the hyperbole, and yet more continued denial by the Democrat side about what the real plan is.

Most certainly getting rid of any of the Bush tax-cuts would result in an increase of taxes on some individuals.

And James Webb's double speak about revenues isn't coming from thoughts of implementing any more tax-cuts, or extending any of the existing cuts.  His comments are directly related to increasing revenue through new means, and new taxes on individuals, corporations, and any other place where revenue can be raised.  He can run from the label of tax-increaser, but he most certainly is on board with the Democratic plan of increasing taxes on the wealthiest Americans, and will also consider increases anywhere and everywhere else he can if given the opportunity to do so.

The fiscal policies of Bush which has created trillions of added dollars in debt will be responsible for tax increases to pay the added interest. We could see as much as a $200 Billion dollar per year increase in the interest taxpayers will be forced to pay as a result of Bush and the GOP fiscal policy.[/B] The GOP cutting revenue with tax cuts while increasing spending more then ever is responsible for the added debt. [B]The GOP has outspent ANY Democratic administration and between Reagan and Bush will have added $9 Trillion to the National debt by 2010. That will require higher taxes to pay that interest and until we balance the budget. The Bush plan of leaving us with about a $250 Billion annual deficit when he leaves office will mean the debt and interest will continue to increase after he leaves office. The next President will inherit the mess Bush and the GOP have created.

Then lets tax everyone, including the poor. People like you col only want to tax successful Americans.

The fiscal policies of Bush which has created trillions of added dollars in debt will be responsible for tax increases to pay the added interest. We could see as much as a $200 Billion dollar per year increase in the interest taxpayers will be forced to pay as a result of Bush and the GOP fiscal policy. The GOP cutting revenue with tax cuts while increasing spending more then ever is responsible for the added debt. The GOP has outspent ANY Democratic administration and between Reagan and Bush will have added $9 Trillion to the National debt by 2010. That will require higher taxes to pay that interest and until we balance the budget. The Bush plan of leaving us with about a $250 Billion annual deficit when he leaves office will mean the debt and interest will continue to increase after he leaves office. The next President will inherit the mess Bush and the GOP have created.

Ah, the closeted Democrat chimes in and admits for him, and his friends, that he wants to raise taxes.

Ain't it fun when he speaks:

I hope the Democrats win and cut taxes for the middle income taxpayers and force George to either help the middle income American and veto the bill and look like an ass.

I hope the Democrats win

Of course you do, because you are a far left liberal.

col gene:

I hope the Democrats win

island dog:

Of course you do, because you are a far left liberal.

i don't know if he is or not, but i do know that everyone who isn't a far right wing evangelical or neoconservative is tired of ya'll callin everyone else names or make charges and misrepresent their positions in ways that either directly insult them or backhandedly insult them with lil code words.

seems every democrat has to be a "far left wing liberal" or the like

everyone who disagrees with "staying the course" is a "cut and run" liberal

anyone who doesn't want the rich to get an unfair free ride on the backs of the rest of us wants to "raise YOUR taxes"

anyone who doesn't want to treat illegal aliens like hardened criminals "wants illegal immigration"

whomever wants just a little bit of accountability and oversight outside the executive branch on issues like surveilence "is trying to help the terrorists"

because i believe in habeas corpus rights, last week i was accused of "celebrating US soldier deaths."

anyone who refuses to give wall street a trillion free dollars "is against any social security reform"

anyone who questions any policy by this administration "must hate bush"

and on and on and on,,,,

and it got old a long time ago...

but don't believe me,,,keep goin like you are goin...

Sean - may I ask just who you are slapping the neocon label on and just who you're labelling as "ya'll" above?

Pot, meet Kettle?

don't know if he is or not, but i do know that everyone who isn't a far right wing evangelical or neoconservative is tired of ya'll callin everyone else names or make charges and misrepresent their positions in ways that either directly insult them or backhandedly insult them with lil code words.

Sean, you have a lot to learn. That photo was not a democrat, it was Col Klink. If you have not realized his diatribe by now (and even the lefties are tired of his pendantic screeching), then I suggest you get more associated with him.

Now I have been respectful of you and do agree with you at times, but really. Your hatred of everyone right of Mao Tse Dung is starting to make a liar of you. I politely pointed out that you hate bush. That does not make you a leftist. but your thin skin for those on the right is starting to quack. You waddle, you quack, next you will be looking like a mallard.

That is your choice. But then when you become the duck, you will be laughed at and ignored like col Klink as well.

This is not a threat or a condemnation. It is an observation. Ignore it as you will.

i don't know if he is or not, but i do know that everyone who isn't a far right wing evangelical or neoconservative is tired of ya'll callin everyone else names or make charges and misrepresent their positions in ways that either directly insult them or backhandedly insult them with lil code words.

Kinda funny how, like Col, you like to appoint yourself the voice of "everyone who isn't a far right wing evangelical or neoconservative". But hey "keep goin like you are goin...".

seems every democrat has to be a "far left wing liberal" or the like

Well we have to have something to counter you're "neoconservative" label you have placed on anyone who follows the Reps. And I thought Dems believed in speading everything equally. Now it's not fair for you to have a nick name for us while we're not allowed to have one for Dems.

everyone who disagrees with "staying the course" is a "cut and run" liberal

I don't know about you, but to walk away from a half-assed job sounds like a cut and run to me. If you can come up with a better way to solve the Iraq dilemmas that would not put more Iraqis in danger, be my guest, put it on the table, otherwise you're only pointing out the problem but can't really do a better job solving it yourself. Kinda like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire if the Dems move in if this is what they have to offer.

anyone who doesn't want the rich to get an unfair free ride on the backs of the rest of us wants to "raise YOUR taxes"

And how exactly is their lifestyle unfair? That people are dumb enough not to educate themselves to better their lives and instead chose to buy $2000 flat screen TVs they can't afford, brand new 2006 or 2007 Mustangs while gas prices are beyond belief, gold chains, expensive sneakers, all this while working in UPS at $9 an hour at night and working under the table in restaurants, selling cell phones, working for Walmart, etc. during the day? Free ride? How exactly do these "rich people" get free rides when they have to pay people to run their business, pay for materials, pay for utilities, pay for insurance (when they have it), pay taxes, pay for shipping, pay for equipment? Or do you think they get all this free and every penny they make is 100% earnings? Stores like Walmart were not started by rich people, they were started by people who were looking to make money and had the drive and motivation to see it through, something the average American lacks.

Besides, everyone knows Dems are the party of the tax raising. It has nothing to do with rich people.

anyone who doesn't want to treat illegal aliens like hardened criminals "wants illegal immigration"

Well, if you don't want to enforce existing laws onto criminals who break them ( cause criminals are those who break laws, yes even those of us who drive above the speed limits are criminals, just ask those cops who give them tickets) then you want criminals around. I bet that if you found yourself stranded on the highway (for what ever reason) and cars were flying by you at speed over 10 miles the speed limit putting your life in more danger than it already is, I'm sure you wish there was a cop around to give each one of them a ticket, but if it was you the one in the car passing by another stranded person at speed above 10 miles the speed limit, it's probably OK cause you believe you are in control. Just like I believe you're OK with illegals around cause they are cheap labor when you need your house painted, your roof fixed, work on your car, etc, but would probably scream about not enough is done about the border is an illegal does you harm in any way.

whomever wants just a little bit of accountability and oversight outside the executive branch on issues like surveilence "is trying to help the terrorists"

A little bit? Does impeaching the President for something that has yet to be proved a crime sound like a little bit to you?

because i believe in habeas corpus rights, last week i was accused of "celebrating US soldier deaths."

What do you expect, you want the freedom of those who are believed to have killed or attempted to kill our soldiers simply because they have not had trials in court. I keep forgetting, you guys defend these people cause they are freedom fighters.

anyone who refuses to give wall street a trillion free dollars "is against any social security reform"

Actually, Dems have not given any ideas to fix them problem so it seems to me that Dems are the same, maybe worse as a solution to Social Security.

anyone who questions any policy by this administration "must hate bush"

You don't question the policies, you criticize them by making Bush the single power of this nation, as if somehow he makes all the decision all by himself, as if our Gov't is composed by a single person, Bush.

and it got old a long time ago... but don't believe me,,,keep goin like you are goin...

If it did get old, you would have ignored it by now, but it seems to me that it still has enough pow to keep you crying foul. You have no will to ignore and no ability to defend yourself so you resort to "I'm being bullied" tactics. What a cry baby. Maybe you should consider the "neocon" is also a used up, worn out, squeeze to the last drop word by people like you, just like Bushies, Bush-drones, Bushmen, etc. And you accuse us of name calling, insulting and misrepresenting? Here's another used up set of words on this site "kettle calling pot black" and "hypocrit".

You're a funny guy, perfect for a good laugh after a long day of work.

guy, charles, et al,,,thanks for showing how little you understand

just keep goin like you are goin...cheers:)

No matter what you call the GOP or the Democrats, it is clear the American People do not support the policies we are following and it is time for a BIG CHANGE!

Now I have been respectful of you and do agree with you at times

true,,,and you can say the same the other way around as well. that's why i am spending a lil time directly responding to you instead of leaving it at the flip comment above.

Your hatred of everyone right of Mao Tse Dung is starting to make a liar of you. I politely pointed out that you hate bush.

this is so not true. and politely misrepresenting how i feel isn't exactly "polite."

That does not make you a leftist. but your thin skin for those on the right is starting to quack. You waddle, you quack, next you will be looking like a mallard.

you can view it how you want, i see it differently, and so do many others. the right wing of the republican party has now alienated everyone who isn't lock step with them, if you disagree with that, fine...but i see it differently. charles's above response only intensifies that. he doesn't even seem to have a grasp of what i'm talking about, for example, the habeas corpus rights i speak of refer to american citizens, not al quaeda soldiers on the battlefield in the middle east. but regardless, my position on that and other things is misrepresented, oversimplified and demonized by him and the others who don't even realize that the right wing is isolated in their views. if ya'll wish to attempt to backwards spin it, so be it...

have a nice day:)

this is so not true. and politely misrepresenting how i feel isn't exactly "polite."

If you dont want to be called a duck, stop quacking like a duck. Your own words are your condemnation. And if you think that was "impolite", you aint seen nothing yet.

If you dont want to be called a duck, stop quacking like a duck.

sorry, just cause i disagree with the administration and don't look at the political spectrum the same way as you do doesn't make me anything in reality...only in your mind.

you are free to feel about me how you want, just don't tell me you are being polite when you are deliberately misrepresenting me.

just don't tell me you are being polite when you are deliberately misrepresenting me.

I did not misrepresent you. If you were mis-represented, it was by your own words.

I did not misrepresent you. If you were mis-represented, it was by your own words.

puHLEAAAsssee!

whatever,,,have a nice day:)