We're fine, thanks for asking.

My husband and I walk our weiner and boxer dogs every night after supper.  We set out with poo-pickup bags in hand (biodegradableones from PerSmart) with both Grace and Henry securely latched onto their leashes.  We don't let them walk in other people's yards, and if they crap, we pick it up. 

We are, in other words, somewhat responsible for our dogs and their behaviour when we're out. 

We have a couple of routes through military family housing that we take, both of which are about a mile long.   We know where houses that have dogs are, and we try to walk on the opposite side of the street from them because I get a little nervous about dogs jumping the fences that contain them to their yards.  My husband thinks I'm silly for worrying about things like that, but he walks on the other side of the street with me anyway. 

The night before last, when we were out on our regular post-chow stroll, we decided to take a detour and walked down a street that makes a semi-circle from the main drag through housing.  We were almost back on our regular route when my fears about strange dogs getting loose were realized.

The first sign of trouble was the crazed snarling and barking that we heard.  The culprit was a large Australian Shepherd that was standing on the other side of someone's screen door.  I turned to look at it, just in enough time to see it hit said screen door hard enough to pop the latch open and come barreling across the street at us, snarling and snapping and barking all the way. 

My first reaction was a loud "oh fuck"...closely followed by my picking up Henry and holding him up and out of this dogs' way.  I got him up just in time; the Aussie hit me just as I was swinging Henry over my head.  Dave was trying to keep Gracie behind his back and both of us were trying to kick and push this other dog away and protect both our dogs and ourselves.  We were both yelling at the aggressor to back off, but it didn't do much good.

After what seemes like forever but was probably only about 30 seconds, the dog's owner came over and tried to grab him.  She was yelling "stop it!! Stop it!!!" as she tried to get her finger under it's collar and yank it away.  Eventually she managed to corral it and she hauled it off of us and away across the street.

And she crossed her yard, went inside and shut the door.

That was it.  She didn't say a fucking thing to us.  Not a damn thing.  No "I'm sorry", no "Is everyone okay"...nothing. 

Not. A. Damn. Word. 

As it turns out, nobody got bitten.  Dave and I were fine, as were Henry and Grace. 'Fine' as in not bitten I was shaken, as was Grace.  That's not the point, though.  The point is, her dog attacked us, and she never even acknowledged either the attack or us.  We were doing everything we could to avoid a confrontation between our dogs and other animals and whilst I at first thought that it was sheer bad luck that her dog got out, her actions (and lack thereof) have since made me wonder if this hasn't happened before.  (These houses that we live in are notorious for their poor construction and I don't think I've been in one of them that had a decent latch on the screen door. All of ours will open with not much of a shove against them.) Maybe she's used to her dog getting out and having a go at other people and their pets.  Maybe that's why she didn't even look at us as she dragged her dog home...who knows.

I DO know that I was pissed, and not just at her lack of concern.  We do everything we can to make sure that our dogs are well behaved around other people and aren't a threat, both when we're walking them AND at home.  We NEVER leave the screen doors open when the dogs are uncrated; I'm paranoid about them getting out - just like I was paranoid about other dogs getting loose. 

Neither of those fears can be attriubted to paranoia anymore, though.  I've seen both of them happen.

 

 

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Glad all is ok.  Australian sheppards are usually nice dogs.  Guess this one was having a bad day.  So how is Henry doing teaching Gracie now?
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Seconded on the glad all is ok. Sorry also that some people are such idiots that they aren't able to apologize for their own mistakes. I'd hazzard a guess or two as to why, but it wouldn't really change things and with no guarantee of the real reason behind things it doesn't really make a difference.
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yep, that was pretty crappy not to even make sure everyone was okay. I would start carrying pepper spray on your walks in case something like this happens again.
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Lucky break to escape a mauling. But what's an Australian shepherd?
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A while back I went on a walk and...OH MY GOD! A chijuaua!!! The little bastard came out of nowhere lookin' like a rat on acid and tore into my ankle breaking the skin and making me bleed like a mofo. I musta looked a sight standing there in the street slinging my leg around tryin' to kick the shit outta that little fucker. And let me tell ya something about chijuauas- they have SHARP teeth! OUCH!
Finally I got a foot under him and slung his ass back on his yard and he tore off back to his house and his owner stepped out and gave me an evil eye for slamming her dog.

Some people!sheesh...
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Shoulda let your boxer fuck the other dog up. My boxer is a sweetheart, but an absolute madman if another dog wants a piece.

Never seen a boxer lose a fight. They got the whole front legs thing going as well as the biting, seems to confuse other dogs when they are getting punched in the face and bit.
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I'm glad you're all ok. What nerve! You should have gone up to her door and demand an apology! I guess she doesn't care about her dog attacking other people. Maybe he's done it before. I would look into that if I were you. Imagine if it were kids and not adults?! Anyway, glad you ok. Some people!
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So how is Henry doing teaching Gracie now?

I think he's pretty pleased with her.  She knows how to do crackerdawg and has a hatred for the vacuum cleaner.  He gets jealous sometimes because Grace gets a different kind of attention that he does, but for the most part he's accepted her.

Sorry also that some people are such idiots that they aren't able to apologize for their own mistakes.

I had wondered about that, if perhaps she was just mortified that the whole thing happened.  Apparently she's been very vocal about things in the past, so I'm not certain that's the case.

 

I would start carrying pepper spray on your walks in case something like this happens again.

Can't.  It's illegal on base.  *looks furtively around to see if Dave's watching*

However, I'd rather be told off for carrying pepper spray than have to be treated for dog bites.  I still have some from when I was working, I'll use that.

 

Lucky break to escape a mauling. But what's an Australian shepherd?



That's what the one that went for us looked like.

 

A while back I went on a walk and...OH MY GOD! A chijuaua!!!

Those little dogs can be vicious fuckers.  I think they have 'short man syndrome'.

Shoulda let your boxer fuck the other dog up. My boxer is a sweetheart, but an absolute madman if another dog wants a piece

She's only 7 months old and is still somewhat shy and tentative. 

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I'm also glad that you (all) weren't injured.

My husband thinks I'm silly for worrying about things like that, but he walks on the other side of the street with me anyway.


Actions, not words.

OH MY GOD! A chijuaua!!!


My chihuahua was a sweetheart. He was all bark (when the doorbell rang) and no bite (not only because most of his teeth were removed). Still, as far as I know, he was the exception to the rule: even tempered, sweet and cuddly and good with children.
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I'm so glad you're all OK. Gosh what a scare that must have been. I don't know how things are handled on a base, but I'd definitely report this dog's behavior. This might have happened before or might happen again. What would have happened if it had been a child walking their dog? I'd definitly report it.

A similar thing happened to me too. I was walking my LEASHED dog on the sidewalk when a golden retriever (supposed to be good natured too aren't they?) came bolting off the porch and attacked my smaller dog biting him on the side. I screamed at the dog and screamed for the owner. He came out just in time to see his dog attack mine and didn't even try to stop it.

I tried to get county animal control to take a report but they wouldn't. This dog was always loose. It did stay in it's yard, but I could never walk around the block again. Some dog owners have such nerve! The owner never said anything to me either. Never even came by to see if my dog was OK and he did know where I lived.

After that I always carried pepper spray with me. On another occasion a woman was in her yard with her dog when I was walking by with mine. Her large dog started walking towards us with a "bad attitude." The woman made some kind of excuse about the dog being pregnant and territorial. I informed her that I had pepper spray and wouldn't hesitate to use it if the dog came any closer.

It took me two years to get my dog (and myself) used to large dogs again. Unfortunately these terrible dog owners give us all a bad name and reputation.





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what's an Australian shepherd?


I just realized... these are bred for herding kangaroos, right? You weren't hopping away from its yard at the time, were you? That might've confused it.
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quote---- That was it. She didn't say a fucking thing to us. Not a damn thing. No "I'm sorry", no "Is everyone okay"...nothing.

Not. A. Damn. Word.
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She was probably poop scared you were going to sue her, so she avoided eye contact to prevent the opening of the verbal doorway. Damn Coward! Over here she would have been in right trouble with the law.

Why dont you put the owner up on "threatening behaviour" charges as she is responsible for her dogs behaviour etc etc etc. I am willing to bet there is a lawyer over there that will make it work!

Glad you and the dogs are okay though.
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Loved that funny Chihuahua story.My little dog's a Maltese and he is a tiny little bugger, but somewhere along his not so pure bloodline, God gave him huge teeth. He has these huge damn fangs that stop him closing his mouth. I'm pretty sure he's got some mean big bastard as a father but he's so small, it's hard to imagine!
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Dear God I"m sure glad you're ok!  other than being scared half to bits!! 

Idiots are allowed to keep dogs?? 

Man I hope you can file a complaint or do something about this piece of work!

Sorry   for your awful experience though!!  ((((((((((((((((((((( dharma and family)))))))))))))))

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glad the four of you escaped with no harm but the scare.

People are just no damned good D, I would have knocked on her door and politely asked her, Do you have insurance? I would not have sued, but throwing a mean scare into her seems just.
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Actions, not words

I know.

I also know that you loved Tibby and miss him horribly.  Even I'm sad that he got lost....

I don't know how things are handled on a base, but I'd definitely report this dog's behavior. This might have happened before or might happen again. What would have happened if it had been a child walking their dog? I'd definitly report it

My husband's a cop, so he's able to get our complaint to the right ears (and I do some work for the legal office so I have symathetic ears at my disposal too).

It took me two years to get my dog (and myself) used to large dogs again. Unfortunately these terrible dog owners give us all a bad name and reputation

That's what we're afraid of...Grace is tentative enough as it is.  I don't want her to be scared of other dogs. Funnily enough, on the way home we passed by a guy who was walking his American Bulldog puppy and who asked if we would let his dog socialise with ours - he said he didn't want his pup to get to be 70lbs and un-socialized around other animals.  THAT'S what I call good, responsible ownership.  He lives up the street from us so we're hoping that our dogs can socialize regularly.

You weren't hopping away from its yard at the time, were you? That might've confused it.

I can't hop much anymore.  Limping, I can do, and was doing the night all this went down.  Perhaps it thought I was a wounded 'roo and was going to take advantage of my disability.....

Over here she would have been in right trouble with the law.

Why dont you put the owner up on "threatening behaviour" charges as she is responsible for her dogs behaviour

Yeah, I was born in the UK and lived there until I was 20 so I'm familiar with the laws (even now they've changed).  You're right, however.  She IS responsible for her dogs and should at LEAST acknowledged that it was her dog that instigated the attack.

 

I'm pretty sure he's got some mean big bastard as a father but he's so small, it's hard to imagine!

I have a miniature daschund that's the same way.  He's got some fangs on him and is a tenacious little bugger. He takes on Grace on a daily basis and can make her whimper.

Idiots are allowed to keep dogs??
Man I hope you can file a complaint or do something about this piece of work!

Idiots are allowed to keep dogs, drive cars, and even have kids!  It's a shame, really.  I wonder sometimes how some people make it through the day without hurting themselves! 

I would not have sued, but throwing a mean scare into her seems just.

It does, doesn't it?  Maybe I should go ask her if her animal is up to date on it's shots - not tell her why, just ask and then leave.  That'd give her a nice few days of worry.

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he said he didn't want his pup to get to be 70lbs and un-socialized around other animals. THAT'S what I call good, responsible ownership. He lives up the street from us so we're hoping that our dogs can socialize regularly.


Sounds like a good idea. Set up some play dates and see how it goes. I also found it good to take my dog to the park. I don't have kids so I got him used to them early on. Now he's very gentle. Even letting the neighbor kids take milk bones out of his mouth without any fuss at all. Now that's what I call a good dog!