Quick!  What is the worst thing you can call a German?  What is the worst offensive gesture in Nigeria?

What is Shit in Spanish, French, and German?

How many of you know?  What if I had substituted Japanese, Chinese and Russian?

And the good old classic, Forced Unnatural Carnal Knowledge.  What is it in German and have you ever used it?

These are but a few questions I have for the Washington Post and a local talking head (or poop chute as that is where he orates from).  Quite simply, if you ask me what the worst insult in Hindi or Urdu is, I could not tell you.  And if you asked me the translation of Shit in Russian, I would give you a blank stare.

And until last week, I did not know that Macaca was a slur against anyone!  Hell!  I did not even know the word!  But apparently it is.  After Sen. George Allen called someone "Mr. Macaca, or whatever his name is".  But now he is being castigated by the holier than thou (who don't seem upset with the 2002 use of the N word by Sen Sheets Byrd).  Are we supposed to know EVERY slur that might exist in the known world?

That is so stupid as to be ludicrous!  Let me give you an even better example.

Tiger Woods was castigated for saying that he played like a Spaz in the British open last year.  Spaz in America is a very well accepted word that we use to describe an uncoordinated person.  No one on this side of the pond is offended, at least I have never heard a spaz object.  Yet in England it is apparently some type of slur because they use it to describe handicapped people.  And we supposedly both speak English!

Upon being told that his word was offensive (no one at first had even found the French connection which they use to derogatorily refer to Muslims), he Apologized.  But did that satisfy the 'unbiased' Press?  Hell no!  They are still hounding him on it.

And you know what? I hope they keep it up.  For when people realize that no one knows all 4000 languages in use today, much less all the slanderous slang of said languages, they will see that these poop chutes are acting like poop chutes.  And any word we utter can be an offense in some language or another.  Regardless of the intent.

Oh, if anyone wants to know the answer to the first 3 questions, just ask.  And for the record, Fick du in German will get you a night in the sack, not a smack.

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quote ---------- in England it is apparently some type of slur because they use it to describe handicapped people. And we supposedly both speak English! ------------- end quote

England is renowned for being politically correct to the point of stupidity.

An example of it - local leisure centre held swimming session for women only 2 hours per week ( for those women too embarresssed to be seen half naked in public) - one male complained that he felt discriminated against - so they stopped the swimming session and about 40 women could not go swimming anymore.


i am british and proud of it, but when silly things like this happen I cringe!
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After Sen. George Allen called someone "Mr. Macaca, or whatever his name is".


Allen didn't call him "Mr. Macaca." He said, "this fellow here, macaca or whatever his name is." You can see it here: Link

Personally, I think it was ignorance on Allen's part--I don't think he was trying to be offensive, or even knew he was being offensive. I think the apology should be enough.

I do find it interesting as well that Allen said he was going to personally apologize at the next campaign rally, and all of a sudden this guy is no longer going to any of them (after trailing around Allen for a while).
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am british and proud of it, but when silly things like this happen I cringe!

Fear not dear lady!  I am American and proud of it too, and say that you have no monopoly on silly things! 

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Allen didn't call him "Mr. Macaca." He said, "this fellow here, macaca or whatever his name is." You can see it here: Link

Personally, I think it was ignorance on Allen's part--I don't think he was trying to be offensive, or even knew he was being offensive. I think the apology should be enough.

I know.  I did not have the exact transcript.  And indeed, until now, I did not know it was even a derogatory term!  But I see that you are at least more perceptive than your Newspaper. 

do find it interesting as well that Allen said he was going to personally apologize at the next campaign rally, and all of a sudden this guy is no longer going to any of them (after trailing around Allen for a while).

I don't.  I think Webb decided to make sure he was not there.  It is politics after all, and I dont really fault Webb for making hay while the sun shines.  I do fault the Washington post for making a mountain out of a molehile.

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What is Shit in Spanish


caca or mierda

French,


merde

...that's all I know... I don't even speak French...but I am rather fluent in Spanish.

The media is nuts...and so are politicians...that's why I'm a zoology major, at least animals make more sense sometimes.

~Zoo
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merde

caca or mierda

You got 2!  Now in what langauge is it an insult?  Not French.  They always smell like it!

just kidding!

BTW:  In German it is Scheisse.

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BTW: In German it is Scheisse.


Oh...duh, I knew that...guess it kinda slipped my mind.

~Zoo
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Oh...duh, I knew that...guess it kinda slipped my mind.

Just remember 3 things about German. 

#1: A lot of words are the same, or very similar as English

#2: S never is followed by H except in deshalb (a compound word)

#3: The action verb always comes at the end of the sentence, or before the prepositional phrase!

Now you can speak German.  Except when they do compound words!  oi Vey!

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Now you can speak German. Except when they do compound words! oi Vey!


I know a handful of German words...if that much. Not too good with those kinds of languages, though the pronunciation is fun to practice. I don't think I've ever spoken a German phrase besides what I read off of the instructions you get in some appliances.

I'll stick to Spanish for now...I'm fairly good at that.

~Zoo
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I'll stick to Spanish for now...I'm fairly good at that.

I am learning it.  I took it back in middle school (pre-historic days), but my wife's family switches between spanish and english, so I got to keep up!

German?  I took 4 years and lived there 2.  I have forgotten a lot, but it is easy and comes back naturally.  Except the gender of the nouns.

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caca or mierdaYou got 2! Now in what langauge is it an insult?


Actually in the Jamaican Patois or Patua as the locals call it Caca is a curse word. Used with the right combination: 'Caca faut' or another colorful one 'Cacky hole' are not nice to say to anyone! [runs to wash mouth out with soap, my mom would be aghast![lol!

They are making a mountain out of molehill though, he has apologized and didn't know the word was used there in reference to that. BTW, isn't that itself not nice since it is a slur there?
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BTW, isn't that itself not nice since it is a slur there?

Not sure I understand that.  What is not nice?

But thanks for the education!  I remember my sister doing the german equivalent of the eff word, and the German laughing at her!  But I did learn the nasty one for the Germans.  But they are so nice, I have never had the occassion to use it!  mer....Oops!

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Yet in England it is apparently some type of slur because they use it to describe handicapped people.


spaz is no less nor more an insult (here or there) than tard.
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Nyet parle espanol.

But you speak Russian and French!

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spaz is no less nor more an insult (here or there) than tard.

Tell that to Tiger Woods.  He used it to describe his play, and got reamed for it in the English Press.

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The word penis in spanish (not sure if I want to say it here) has 2 meanings. It all depends on where you are. In Puerto Rico penis in spanish is just that and is used as an insult a lot, in other latin countries it means insect. Go figure.
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In Puerto Rico penis in spanish is just that and is used as an insult a lot, in other latin countries it means insect.

But would that not be an insult as well?

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But would that not be an insult as well?


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I don't know about the use of 'spaz' or 'tard, for that matter. My uncle was born serverly physically handicapped so I know I'm overly sensitive to words such as these. That people can be clumsy, make mistakes or even play a bad game of golf does not imply, to me anyway, that they are in any way deficient either physically or mentally. I find the words demeaning and unnecessary, given how many wonderful offensive words already exist.

Just my two cents worth, Doc, is all...
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I find the words demeaning and unnecessary, given how many wonderful offensive words already exist.

But that is a cultural thing.  Neither of the words are used in the US, either descriptively, or derogatorially, to describe mentally or physically handicapped people.  So how was Tiger to know he wa being insensitive?  And that was my point.  He was not only not using them in a demaning way to anyone else, he was unaware they were an insult over in England.

Some innocent words and gestures in one culture, can be an insult in another, but I doubt that more than a handful would know what everyone was in every culture.  When an offense is given, as in the case of Woods and Allen, at worst, they should be told of the offense so as not to commit it again.  But not castigated for not being fluent in a foreign culture.  Especially in the case of Allen when he was speaking in his native land, where the pretend word (for that is what it is), is just a series of syllables.

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Some innocent words and gestures in one culture, can be an insult in another,


Yeah don't go to Turkey and show someone the sole of your foot (like when you sit down and prop an ankle on a knee).....that's like flipping them the bird while sleeping with their wife! ha.

And our 'ok' hand sign is seen as the "evil eye" in some muslim countries.

And good grief Tiger, if you ever happen to be playing golf in the middle east, do not EVER give a thumbs up.....that IS the middle finger over there.

IMHO get over it already. If people who are actually WATCHING golf can't figure out there are differences in cultures, too freakin bad. Watch something more mundane like tennis, or er, wrestling, or er....well ok golf is the most mundane thing to watch...so maybe they better head outside and watch grass grow.
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And good grief Tiger, if you ever happen to be playing golf in the middle east, do not EVER give a thumbs up.....that IS the middle finger over there.


Dont go thumbing for a ride in Nigeria, that means the same thing as well!
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Neither of the words are used in the US, either descriptively, or derogatorially, to describe mentally or physically handicapped people.


My mother worked for the Spastic Centre, which is an organisation founded in America. So obviously, spastic is used to describe some mentally handicapped people. And I'm sure, while you might not use it, the word 'retarded' would be used as a descriptive for physically and mentally handicapped people too.

Having said this, I don't think there is anything wrong with the words when used as they're supposed to be (I'm not pro-political correctness, in other words). But for an international figure such as Tiger Woods, you would think he'd be a bit more careful about what he says to the media.
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Politically correct and stupidity should never be used in the same sentence as that sentence then becomes redundant.

The press has become the voice of the PC police. No wonder I prefer South Park.