Star Trek Fans please acknowledge...

Just curious who the Star Trek Fans are. I love having my Star Trek DVD's on in the backgound while I play. And since this is a Star Trek thread, do you give a thumbs up or a thumbs down to Enterprise (the latest Star Trek to go off the air). Personally I thought it was great, and I'll tie it with The Next Generation.
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it wasen the best but it was good. but in my i thought they draged out sesion 3 to much
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I liked TNG and DS9 the best out of the Trek series. DS9 was cool because it was darker and less optimistic than any of the others. I didnt watch any Enterprise because at the time it came out I didnt have cable, and where I live in Vermont you get about 3 good channels just using antenae. I havent caught any of the reruns yet, but the Sci-Fi channel does show them.

My favorite sci-fi series are non-Trek though: Bablyon 5 and the current Battlestar Galactica. Like with DS9, they are darker, grittier, and more realistic than most sci-fi shows.

Kzinti empire2.JPG Sentient species taste better...
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I have never seen an episode of Enterprise bar for the pilot. The timeline does not make sense to me per the TOS timeline plus i cant stand Scot Bakula. I am no fan of his acting at all.
That being said, when the series becomes cheap on DVD i will pick it up, but mainly because i have all the other ST series on DVD too.

Of the other 4. DS9 would be my favorite for the reasons KP mentioned above but also the story lines had more of a sense of purpose to them. Now the first few seasons were a little weaker, but once the Dominion story took full flight the whole show turned around. Where TOS and TNG were at best 2 part episodes with little to no flow to the next episode. I understand that was Gene's plan, but i felt it left the shows lacking. I'd place VOY somewhere between those. I loved the show, but at times it had a real B-grade Saturday afternoon rerun feel to it. It did pick up once Seven joined the crew and the Borg become more involved in the series, but i find it hard to watch the first few seasons.

1st DS9
2nd VOY
3rd TNG
4th TOS

As for non ST. The new BattleStar Galactica is by far my favorite Sc-Fi series ever. It does the litle things right that annoyed me in ST. Like no warp drive but "jumping" which is a little closer to what i would imagine FTL wouold be like. The little to no noise in space i think adds huge amounts of drama to any space scene. The fact when they have a problem it is either fixed or not. No rerouting the plasma converter through the secondary backups so as to create an artifical singularity that would allow the shields to go to 7000%.

The actors are great, the effects are brilliant and the story holds a purpose and they vary rarely digress from that. Perhaps then that it is no coincidence that both BSG and DS9 are produced and co-written by Ronald D Moore. Great guy!!

I never was a fan of B5. No reason i guess, just didn't like it. I also have on DVD both SG-1 and Atlantis. Great shows, love watching them and i probably hold them and BSG higher in esteem than ST these days.

I will always be a ST fan though. But this leads to another question. As Weird Al said...Kirk or Picard? Or is there a Sisko, Janeway or Archer fan amongst us?
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Star Trekkkk... I was so disappointed when I ran out of episodes from The Next Generation series..........
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Star trek is just such an amazing accomplishment of science fiction and great metaphor...Enterprise was awesome... I hate how some people hate on it because its a little different. The characters were great and the storyline was exciting and poignant...trip's fate at the end left me quite pissed though...almost couldn't forgive the writers for not getting tpal an him together at the end.
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But it became difficult to hide the fact that "Data" the cyborg was getting old! I was still a big fan of the show and the movies
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Enterprise is under-rated. Certainly it was not the best searies but I found the quality of the episodes to be more consistant than the others.
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The only thing I absolutely could not stand from Enterprise was the beginning theme song! Besides that, I liked it pretty well.
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The only thing I absolutely could not stand from Enterprise was the beginning theme song! Besides that, I liked it pretty well.


Only one with real words... that bugged me...

The others did without, why couldn't the new kid too?
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There is almost no scifi that I will not watch. Even bad scifi holds some fascination for me.

Nevertheless I am a harsh critic. The original ST was very good in it's time and STNG was a classic. STDSN was okay at times and bad at times. STV was a little better than DSN imo. Enterprise was not good imo, mainly due to the muggings of Scott Bakula, the worst of all Trek Captains.

Looking forward to the next incarnation, which is bound to come sooner or later
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enterprise sucked IMHO, but i'm REALLY looking forward to ST XI. the trailer gets me all goose-pimpley.
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I don't know, I really loved the theme song from Enterprise. Does it matter that it had words. I think it portrayed the beginning of space age for humans and the fact that they were leaving Earth.

Trailer for ST XI?? Where can I see it?
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Right around the decontamination gel rub down scene in the first episode or so, I realized that they were going after a demographic that was not me and lost interest in the series.

OTOH, I recently started rewatching all the episodes, in order, from TNG. Major nerd out. Netflix is a luxury I just can't live without.
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Here is the link to the trailer... It's still under construction but the music did give me goosebumbs.


http://www.startrekmovie.com/

In the coming months I'm pretty sure it will be updated.
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Man I like TOS!!

Grew up with that and I still think it's the best SciFi-series ever created. I can't really describe what I mean (due to lack of proper english vocabulary... :SNIFF!: ) but there's so much fine detailed humor and morale/philosophy I miss elsewhere.
(...and yes I know that some -perhaps many- of the settings/dialogues/characters were ... ludicrous, especially the 'effects' were, but: who cares?)

[Damn, I just remembered the giant stone age spears in "The Galileo Seven" and how the shuttle was electricified to shock the attacking creatures and finally Spock -in big trouble losing military authority over the remains of his away team- desperately burned down the last bit of shuttle fuel for help, leaving Scotty with a very laconic (sorry for german) "war sicher ein ganz nettes feuerwerk"... :D
And does anybody remember the scene from "The Conscience of the King" were one of the last three witnesses of the mass murderer Kodos (two of which living onboard of the Enterprise...LOL) sits back in his chair...relaxing already knowing his life is endangered...singing...and a very bad hand in gloves comes from the off poisoning his coffee mug with a spray can. That was fantastic.
-> I just got carried away - sorry dudes...]

Enterprise was not good imo, mainly due to the muggings of Scott Bakula, the worst of all Trek Captains.


Granted, Bakula isn't deNiro, but the worst of all captains? I couldn't stand Sisko with his ever-the-same-looking face (I think I read somewhere this guy is an acting teacher...LOL...see him in American History X and you'll wonder when he'll put on his red commanders' uniform) and Janeway was even worse. All this Neelix/Tuvok/Tuvix-stuff just wasn't meant for me...

As for the remake of Battlestar Galactica: I agree with KP and others that this is a very good series, IMHO the best since TOS. The story is fascinating, very well focused and not overcrowded with dozens of exotic species and new story lines. The characters are well developed, versatile and realistic...real people with credible problems. Personally I like to see dirt, sweat, blood and despair in the faces of people in such a setting. And of course, the effects are very good, but this only adds to the quality.