Thalan Discussion

The thalans are Mysterious, discuss.

In response to a joke that everyone hated i decided to make a "real post" on the subject. The Thalans always seem to be warning everyone about a future event involving the terrans and a very bad thing, what could it be? Discuss.
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The Thalans will insert a computer virus into all computer video drivers so that no one will be able to play GC2. Updating your video drivers WILL NOT solve the problem.
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I believe they turn Evil and try to destroy the terrans. But that may just of been My imagination.
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The Thalan are BUGS !!!!!
Take a close look at thier pics ...
Terrans and BUGS do NOT mix !!!!!!!
Remember Starship Troopers ????????
All out WAR is coming ....
... to be continued .....
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I just ignore them both. Boiled Thalan and Terran jelly goes great with my silicon toast.

- N-1
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The Terrans in the future are responsible for the death and destruction of most of the universe. I'm guessing that's linked to GC3, and if Brad left a copy of the story lying around the site, we would know. Hint hint.
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Well, I'll be a toasted Terran ...
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Remember at the end of the campaign.... the terrans left for the pocket universe.... whitch was before populated by the dread lords... maybe they turn evil...
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Hint: the Thalans are time travellers. And if the Dreadlords had similar technology (not a big leap), it's entirely likely that the Humans ARE the Dreadlords (They leave some behind in the pocketverse, terrans figure it out, become super powerful, travel back in time... story restarts).
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Yeah, just like "Lion King" and the circle of life ...
WOW
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And I am sure the bugs do NOT like Terrans ...
Watt about DDT ?????
Think the Thalans want a face full of THAT ???
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Humans are dreadlords theory is my guess too.
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it's entirely likely that the Humans ARE the Dreadlords


In the story we get told that the Dread Lords have very limited numbers, and were all created as a direct result of Draginol's wishes. If I remember correctly, there are exactly 11000, with the rest being the other precursors.

What happened to the originals then? Who would Draginol be? Why only 11000 humans that notice time? They were created, not time travelling. And though humanoid, they certainly don't look very human.
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Yes, but if the humans do go back in time, then what happens to the early humans (or apes) would they just dissapere or what?
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I believe the human return at near the end of the GC2 Expansion story and utterly WTFPWN the Drengin, proceed to wipe out the Korath, and then continue on in blind zealotry to Earth anhilating all life in their path, but that's just a wild speculation...
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Great theorys, and the dread lord one does make sense. Perhaps the ancient enemy of the dread lords are the Thalans and the Thalans prevented some events in human history that made the dread lords ultra strong in a alternate dimension. The arnor thanked the Thalans but the Thalans were still cuatious as the humans could still become dread lords. Just a thought.
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A war called the Dark Apocolypse War, a war were Terror Stars were used and all of the civilizatons were destroyed along with most of the galaxy.
In my story idea for Galciv 4.It later turns out that the Thalans are the real ones responsible, because the Thalans are really a race of aliens called the Dexilian Empire.The Dexilians had planed the DAW so that they may have the galaxy.In the campaign story for Galciv 2 Twilight of the Arnor, the Dexelians disguised themselves as the Arnor.WWW Link. I did not get a chance to write this because i'm still working on chapter 3.
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I recall reading a comment from Brad somewhere that the Thalans arrived five years too early.
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Well the Human Dread Lord idea does make sense, and would possibly help explain the existance of the Altarians. The Thalans may just come from a timeline where the actions of the Terrans at this point in time cause a catastrophic series of events that ultimately destroys the galaxy or even the universe that the Thalan existed in. They see the Terrans as the cause of all imbalance in the galaxy and wish to annihalate them from the galaxy before the catastrophe happens again. Whether it's the Terrans that still keep up the fight on Earth or those who went to the pocket universe or even the invention of Hyperdrive that started these events if my guess is correct I don't know.
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Here's my theory. It's totally derived from bits and pieces of backstory posted from time to time by Frogboy and from the new TA race descriptions and tech descriptions.
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In 2228(TA), the Terrans somehow break out from the impenetrable barrier around Earth. Apparently, a Terran ship meets an Arnorian, who possibly helps them break out from the barrier, and tells them how the Dread Lords got their power. The DLs power, according to said Arnorian, is from their life-force crystals(as well as inherent Precursor abilities). They had created life-force crystals by somehow, using an unknown 'device', stealing life-force from the Arnorians and helping to trigger the Precursor mega-war we all know of. My hypothesis is that this 'device' is the 6.2 billion-year-old Spore that the Korath have discovered, which crystallizes protein. The Korath, however, have no clue how to use these crystals. Since the Dread Lords are also controlling the Korath, the DLs may also be benefiting from the crystals created in Korathian spore attacks. The Terrans are given a mission by the Arnorian: Find all those DL crystals and destroy them in a supernova. And since supernovae don't come by often, the Terrans must artificially cause one by using Terror Stars. Thus, you have the Twilight of the Arnor campaign. The Dreads are probably destroyed in this, but I'm not sure since no one has actually played the TA campaign yet.

Flash back to 2225, when the Terran navy, having beaten back the Dread Lords, is banished into the pocket universe. This is also when the Thalans arrive, supposedly too early. 5 years later, in 2230, the Terran navy returns from the pocket universe with 'stuff' - possibly shards of the Telenanth or other goofy Mithrilar objects, and this 'stuff' destroys or triggers the destruction of the universe.

However, one person doesn't return from the pocket universe. This is D.L Bradley, aka. Draginol. He somehow obtains supernatural powers and becomes the 5th Mithrilar, i.e, the Dark Mithrilar. He is in fact, more powerful than the 4 original Mithrilar, which is bizarre. He creates 1000 beings similar to himself, which have all the properties of humans like himself, but vastly more powerful individually. These are the Dread Lords, who, like us, can sense time. Then he created 10000 beings just like the Dread Lords, but with lesser powers. These are the Dread Knights, who are minions to the DLs. Then he created beings similar to humans, but lacking the ability to sense time, yet still far more powerful than individual humans. These are the Arnor. Draginol also somehow causes the 'shattering of the Telenanth', which alters the laws of physics and enables other life life forms to evolve naturally. He eventually goes to the planet Altaria, which is where he dies, but not before triggering the sudden evolution of the Altarians, who are also very similar to humans but have very, very slight supernatural powers, to the point that they're negligible and near-invisible.

In this pocket universe, other sentient life evolves. The Precursors have their mega-war and vanish again. All the races from the 'real universe'(the one which possibly gets destroyed in 2230) also evolve in this parallel universe. My hypothesis here is that the Thalans also evolve in this universe. The Thalans live to the point of time that the altered laws of physics, which allow for life, are no longer sustainable, thus causing them to realize that the pocket universe is 'dying' again and everything will be reduced to subatomic particles. Due to some freak connection which I can't imagine, the Thalans develop trans-dimensional time-traveling technology and somehow travel to the real universe in Earth year 2225 - which for some reason, is 5 years too early.

Whether they can save the universe from the Terrans' hapless but catastrophic mistake is unknown. That is stuff for GalCiv 3.
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Considering that the Terrans have agents outside of their barrier, they could work even with Earth shielded.

(Remember, the terran agent helping the Drengin against the Korath? Who told them about the spore? And the Terran guerilla warriors in mission 2 of DA?)

-Also, it's established that Draginol enters the actual universe at some point from a collapsing alternate universe.
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Guys some changes.....
@PeskyFly...Terrans did not break the barrier...an expedition force that had long gone to explore deep space...have met the last of the Arnor....who explains them as you said...
@ThalanAdmirer....Thalans could never be an ancient enemy to dreadlords since it is clearly stated that they come from the future not the past....
@for the others....it is not humans the dreadlords, but it is a human who created the arnor/dreadlords...

Draginol created 11100 Arnors......100 of them resembled him in physical form and had incredible power and the next 1000 were minions of the first 100rds..all these felt the passage of time....and the rest of the 10000 were the lesser Arnors who can't sense the passage of time (these were like the other mithrilers) but can reproduce unlike the first powerful 1100 and also less powerful.....so only 1100 became DLs and the rest of them remained Arnor (as mentioned by Brad)....After the Mithrilers disappeared in a cataclysm only 2 survived.....Draginol and Mascrinthus....Draginol fell unconscious in Altaria....and his mare presence altered the world were both the Human like Altarians and Drath to compete....Drath claim that Mascrinthus was responsible for teleporting them from Altaria to Dratha..as they had no space travel at that time...

Draginol..is actually one of the humans that entered the DL pocket univerese...At the End of the DL campaign...Izok, A messenger from the Thalan arrive and says not to listen to the mysterious figure...on response it shows itself as Human and called mimself "Draginol". It suggests the Human ships must to go to the DL pocket universe and return after learning all their technologies to have some chance against them. The Thalan messenger says that this was what they have come to stop...and Humans are responsible for all the unbalance. If humans have not given Hyperdrive to all this would have not happened...and He also said that "If humans enter the dread lord pocket universe, only death awaits them there and they would never return, this was what we are trying to stop. And The Draginol figure looks vaguely familiar though you cannot quite remember from where"...the Humans still entered the pocket universe...

DL Bradley did not return...he became powerfull like a Mithriler and time-traveled....became mad of being immortal and sense of time unlike the other mithrilers, became Draginol the dark mithriler and unleashed the Telenanth to create the Arnor, Dreadlords in his own image...blablabala...and this sequence of events are looping.....May be this looping sequence was what the Thalans were trying to stop (as mentioned by programmer Mascrinthus)....Draginol suggests DL Bradley to enter the pocket universe knowing that whe will become Draginol...and events get looped.

still there are many unanswered questions here....

1. Who are the Thalans and how come the get to know abt this looping sequence of events ??? what does the loop of sequence got to do with them ???

2. If only DL Bradley did not return, what happened to the others in the fleet ??? will they return back with great precursor technologies ??

3. It is sure that Arnor(and Dread Lords) physically appeared like humans though biologically different...then why didn't the Iconians, or the Yor never thought any about this when they first contacted with Humans or the Altarians ?? The Iconians and the Yor were the only races that had existed and had contact with the Arnor/Dreadlords...why didn't they wonder anything abt the similar appearnce of the Arnor/Dreadlords, Humans, Altarians ???

4. Another question is only 2 Mithrilers survived the cataclysm....Draginol and Maascrinthus....we have seen Draginol unconsciously altered Altaria and created Altarians...and he is still in the story till the end of DL campaign where he suggests the human fleet to enter the DL pocket universe....what happened to Mascrinthus ??? in the GalCiv:I-Altarian prophecy, Drath claim that they were teleported from Altaria to Dratha by mithriler Mascrinthus....then what happened to Mascrinthus later on....will he return back and stop Draginol ????

will we get an answer to all this in Twilight of the Arnor ???

------According to me only one being in the galaxy could stand up to Draginol, none other than only the last good Mithriler Mascrinthus could....
....And if the Thalans prevent DL Bradley entering the pocket universe Draginol will never exist and so as Arnor/Dreadlords and even human like Altarians. And Iconians would have never really unleashed fully sentiment Yor....so i guess this is not the event they are trying to stop but somthing else....like...the humansthat went to DL pocket universe, except DL Bradley..return with powerful Dreadlord tech and stuff..and Draginol suggests humans to unleash it...which may cause destruction of the whole universe....and Thalans are acctually are trying to stop this from occuring....may be in a last attempt used their time-travel device to escape destruction traveled to our universe and stop this from occuring...
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