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It Is OK to have KILLED U. S. Troops in Iraq!

By COL Gene
Posted Thursday, June 15, 2006 on Bush Truth
Discussion: Politics

It looks like what I posted in my Blog on 15 June is about to come true (see above)


Yesterday the Iraqi Prime Minister announced he was ready to enact his amnesty plan that would allow Iraqis that have KILLED American Troops to be forgiven. Bush must object to any such plan in the strongest possible terms. To have an American President Support a government that would condone the killing of our troops is TREASON!
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Reply #51 from JoeUser Forums Top
Charles, c'mon. Any good therapist will tell you you've got to stop holding back. Just let it out. It'll be alright.
Reply #52 from JoeUser Forums Top
IslandDog

I do not know if a Republican or Democrat can do better but I know that we can not allow more of the inept leadership that has existed since 2001 in our country to continue!!!! We also need policies that are more centrist and not either to the far right or far left. I believe we need a split in the power to FORCE some compromises on policy.
Siege of Centauri
Reply #53 from JoeUser Forums Top
Col, we know what policies you want and they are far left based. This country elected Bush twice, get over it already. Bush will be in office until '08,
and there is nothing you can do about it.
Reply #54 from JoeUser Forums Top
Islamddog

Congress enacts the laws and we can change our policies in 2006 not 2008.
Reply #55 from JoeUser Forums Top
Congress enacts the laws and we can change our policies in 2006 not 2008.

Wow! A flash of brilliance. Now, here's a little fact that you keep avoiding, Gene. Taxes - are laws. Tax breaks - are laws. Emergency spending measures to rebuild the New Orleans levies by stacking 10's and 20's (non-consecutive serial numbers and unmarked) on top of each other - are laws. Money allocated (or not allocated) for particular programs? Oh, right. These are laws, too.

Who are laws passed by? That's right! Have a cookie. Congress passes these laws.

If Congress is the one who passes the laws that you like bitching about so much, why, oh, why do you keep saying "it's all Bush's fault!!"?????

Since you've proven that you can understand how our government REALLY works, why do you insist on making such a mockery of yourself by ignoring the 535 people in Congress that are equally (if not more so) culpable?
Reply #56 from JoeUser Forums Top
It is you that do not understand how things have been working (or not as the case may be).

What I described is the way the founding fathers designed our republic. The problem is that Bush and the GOP have subverted that system in the following way:

Bush has set out the policies like taxes, spending and Iraq, etc. and then the Congress has passed the policies as Bush suggested without the independent action the legislative Branch should exercise. In fact when Congress has not acted to pass into law the policies the way Bush demanded, the cry is that Congress was NOT supporting the President. That was true with Social Security and Energy.

What needs to happen is Congress must set policies that reflect what is NEEDED and WANTED by the MAJORITY of Americans NOT what Bush wants enacted into law. The policies that have been passed since Bush took office have been almost 100% Bush policies and they have been a dismal failure.

We need a change in Congress in November 2006 to STOP the one sided way our government has been operating to benefit the wealthy and big business while ignoring the needs of the MAJORITY of our people!
Reply #57 from JoeUser Forums Top
What needs to happen is Congress must set policies that reflect what is NEEDED and WANTED by the MAJORITY of Americans NOT what Bush wants enacted into law.


People vote these politicians to represent them, not what a biased media poll tells them. Which is what you are basically saying.

The policies by Bush are not a "failure", they are only a "failure" in your opinion.

Here you again talking about the wealthy and big business. Your advocacy of high taxes do NOT benefit the majority of people in this country.

I notice you never address what democrats will do if they regain any type of power.
Reply #58 from JoeUser Forums Top
The issue is NOT MEDIA POLLS but what the Majority want from their government. What we are getting is NOT WHAT THE MAJORITY WANT!

If the Democrats regain power there will be a need to modify the policies and compromise not just pass what the GOP wants to pass. That will move us to a more
centrist policy and be a better fit with what the majority want. The majority of Americans are NOT either to the far Right or Far Left. What we have is a government that
Acts as if most people are to the far right which is NOT THE CASE!
Reply #59 from JoeUser Forums Top
The issue is NOT MEDIA POLLS but what the Majority want from their government. What we are getting is NOT WHAT THE MAJORITY WANT!


The majority of the country voted this government in. What do you know about what people want? You know absolutely nothing about the average American.


If the Democrats regain power there will be a need to modify the policies and compromise not just pass what the GOP wants to pass. That will move us to a more
centrist policy and be a better fit with what the majority want.


If the democrats regain any power all they will do is complain and do nothing as usual. I bet if they were all democratic policies you wouldn't be complaining.

The majority of Americans are NOT either to the far Right or Far Left. What we have is a government that
Acts as if most people are to the far right which is NOT THE CASE!


I guess you didn't read the DNC statement that said they believe the majority of America is conservative and "moderate". Once again
I bet you wouldn't be complaining if it was a liberal President.
Reply #60 from JoeUser Forums Top
IslandDog

In 2000 the majority DID NOT vote this government into office. In 2004 there was 52% that voted this government in and 48% that wanted NO PART of Bush and the GOP Policies. Since Nov 2004, many Bush supporters have changed their mind about the way Bush has handled the policies of our country and he does NOT have the support of the majority!

Since the Republicans have PROVEN they can not handle the job, it is time to see what the Democrats can do!

I do not care what the DNC has to say. That fact remains the MAJORITY do not support the right wing conservative policies that have been put into place and I do not believe the MAJORITY support big give away policies of the far left. A split in the power will FORCE compromise and result in more MODERATE policies!
Reply #61 from JoeUser Forums Top
IslandDog

In 2000 the majority DID NOT vote this government into office. In 2004 there was 52% that voted this government in and 48% that wanted NO PART of Bush and
the GOP Policies. Since Nov 2004, many Bush supporters have changed their mind about the way Bush has handled the policies of our country and he does NOT
have the support of the majority!

Since the Republicans have PROVEN they can not handle the job, it is time to see what the Democrats can do!

I do not care what the DNC has to say. That fact remains the MAJORITY do not support the right wing conservative policies that have been put into place
and I do not believe the MAJORITY support big give away policies of the far left. A split in the power will FORCE compromise and result in more MODERATE policies!
Reply #62 from JoeUser Forums Top
NO PART of Bush and
the GOP Policies.


Oh, I don't know, Gene... some of 'em might have wanted some part of Bush & his policies. Then again, you are the king of meaningless but sweeping generalities.
Reply #63 from JoeUser Forums Top
The public has scene the results of the Bush policies in energy, trade, jobs, budget, border security, education, Social Security and Iraq. The VAST MAJORITY
and they do not like the results and WANT A CHANGE!!!!!
Reply #64 from JoeUser Forums Top
Since the Republicans have PROVEN they can not handle the job, it is time to see what the Democrats can do!


The public has scene the results of the Bush policies in energy, trade, jobs, budget, border security, education, Social Security and Iraq. The VAST MAJORITY
and they do not like the results and WANT A CHANGE!!!!!


We know what democrats can do col. That's why Republicans have power.

Let's see col. What did the democrats do about border security in the 8 years of a democrat administration? What did democrats do
to solve any of the problems you listed above? The only things democrats are guaranteed to do is raise taxes, which is what you want anyways.


I do not care what the DNC has to say. That fact remains the MAJORITY do not support the right wing conservative policies that have been put into place
and I do not believe the MAJORITY support big give away policies of the far left. A split in the power will FORCE compromise and result in more MODERATE policies!



You haven't shown that as fact. Where you are getting this fact from? The media polls you love so much?


In 2004 there was 52% that voted this government in and 48% that wanted NO PART of Bush and
the GOP Policies. Since Nov 2004, many Bush supporters have changed their mind about the way Bush has handled the policies of our country and he does NOT
have the support of the majority!


In 2004 the majority of people voted Bush back into office even with all the bs like your blogs. Bush lied, worst economy since Hooover, but
democrats still couldn't beat him. And these are the peopel you want in office. What a joke.
Reply #65 from JoeUser Forums Top
Geez, this thread is still alive? Makes me wonder...

Daiwa:
Then again, you are the king of meaningless but sweeping generalities.

Heh, yeah... that's Gene for you. King Gene of colonel generalities... wait, would that be GEN Gene of Kingly colonelness?

COL Gene:
The public has scene the results of the Bush policies in energy, trade, jobs, budget, border security,
education, Social Security and Iraq. The VAST MAJORITY and they do not like the results and WANT A CHANGE!!!!!

Guess we'll see in November if the "VAST MAJORITY" is as pissed off as you hope they are.
Reply #66 from JoeUser Forums Top
The country is the looser. The debt, lack of border control, Iraq War, lack of an energy policy from the two former oil men. The list goes on and on. Bush and the GOP is a failure.

To continue with policies that have totally failed to solve our problems would just be dumb. I hope we see a change in Novenber 2006!!!!!!
Reply #67 from JoeUser Forums Top
Not that it will have any effect on you, Gene, but you should take a look at this:

Link

Seems the deficit is shrinking a lot faster than expected, thanks to those evil undertaxed rich folks & corporate ripoff artists you love to hate.
Reply #68 from JoeUser Forums Top
Daiwa

I read that article and what that said is that the GROWTH in the deficit is less then projected. That is good but does not solve the problem of the existing deficit
nor does it come even close to balancing the budget to STOP adding to the deficit. The issues is very basic-- If we spend "X "Dollars we MUST TAX "X" dollars.

That is what Bush and the GOP in Congress refuses to do. Since January 2001 will have added about $5 Trillion to the $ 4 Trillion Reagan added to the debt. These two irresponsible presidents have created 90% of the TOTAL National Debt!!!!!!!!!!! The American taxpayers will be paying the interest on this debt for the next 50 plus years!!!!!! Since Reagan we have paid $6.5 TRILLION in interest. The amount of interest over the next 25 Years will be far greater because of Bush!
Reply #69 from JoeUser Forums Top
That is what Bush and the GOP in Congress refuses to do. Since January 2001 will have added about
$5 Trillion to the $ 4 Trillion Reagan added to the debt.
These two irresponsible presidents have created 90% of the TOTAL National Debt!!!!!!!!!!!
The American taxpayers will be paying the interest on this debt for the next 50 plus years!!!!!!
Since Reagan we have paid $6.5 TRILLION in interest. The amount of interest over the next 25 Years will be far greater because of Bush!

Isn't that the same budget deficit that you think Clinton conquered and Bush screwed up? Can't have it both ways, COL.
Reply #70 from JoeUser Forums Top
Gloom and doom. Ever wonder why people like you don't get elected col?

BUSH, REAGAN RERSPONSIBLE FOR WORST ECONOMY SINCE HOOVER!

BUT YOU STILL CAN'T BEAT HIM......HA HA HA HA HA....
Reply #71 from JoeUser Forums Top
IslandDog

I hope you and the other Bushies enjoy paying all those tax dollars to pay the interest Bush and Reagan added to the Federal budget!!!!
Reply #72 from JoeUser Forums Top
Singrdave

At the end of the Clinton term we finally balanced the annual budget and stopped adding to the deficit. The first year Bush took over, we returned to the same problem that Reagan created in 1981.

Reagan added 3 Trillion to the total debt and Bush will add over 4 Trillion and leave with an unbalanced budget and continue the march to more debt!

In 1980 the national debt was under 1 Trillion.

When Reagan left office it was 4 Trillion.

When the Bush 41 and Reagan terms were over the debt was 5.7 Trillion and by the end of the Bush 43 term it will be 10 Trillion! The annual interest went from 90 Billion in 1980 to $500 Billion in 2010.
Reply #73 from JoeUser Forums Top
I hope you and the other Bushies enjoy paying all those tax dollars to pay the interest
Bush and Reagan added to the Federal budget!!!!


We will...but only because, "YOU'LL" be paying it too!
Reply #74 from JoeUser Forums Top
drmiler

You are such an ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply #75 from JoeUser Forums Top
IslandDog

I hope you and the other Bushies enjoy paying all those tax dollars to pay the interest Bush and Reagan added to the Federal budget!!!!


What a ridiculous statement. Regardless of a deficit or not I will still pay taxes. If it was up to people like you
we would all be paying higher taxes.

I'd rather pay taxes on a deficit than spending it on welfare or any other useless entitlement program, I will tell
you that.