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Saddam's WMD in 2003 - Degrated Chemical Artillery Shells!

Saddam's WMD in 2003 - Degrated Chemical Artillery Shells!

They had a range of 10 miles to hit the U.S. from Iraq!





Sen. Rick Santorum claims a just released intelligence report proves Saddam Hussein had WMD. This claim is predicated on the recovery of about 500 old gas filled Artillery Shells from about 1980 and this Santorum claims proves that Saddam was the danger Bush claimed when he invaded Iraq in March 2003.

Santorum shows just how desperate Bush supporters are to try and justify a war that the majority believes was a mistake. The problem with the old chemical artillery shells is that first they have a range of about 10 miles. HOW were they a threat to the United States? Two they were so old that the gas in the shells was no longer dangerous!

This declassified intelligence report does NOTHING to show that in 2003 Saddam was a threat and does not in any way change the conclusion of the U. S. Former Weapons inspector, Charles Duelfer in 2004 that Saddam had discontinued his WMD program just after the 1991 war and that he had NO ACTIVE Chemical, Biological or Nuclear weapons programs in 2003!
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Reply #26 Top
SANTORUM IS FINISHED! with that stupid stunt

Hes trailing 18 points in the latest PA polls.

Thats the fate that awaits all supporters of this illegal invasion
Reply #27 Top
>Reply By: BakerStreet Posted: Friday, June 23, 2006
We had no beef with Hussein during the Reagan period, and he wasn't under the obligation to declare these shells and destroy
>them then. It was under Clinton's administration that enforcement of the ceasefire wasn't held to, and that these shells
>were stored away and hidden from inspectors. SO, again...

>CLINTON'S MISGUIDED POLICIES ALLOWED SADDAAM HUSSIEN TO STOCKPILE WMDs FOR YEARS WHILE INSPECTIONS WERE THRWARTED!!!



your ILK is so PREDICTABLE.

yesterday I stubbed my toe ... clintons fault
just now my wife screamed at me ... clintons fault
the local A&P doesnt have apple juice ... clintons fault
santorum is a fool ... product of a clinton generation
liberman is a fool ... product of a clinton generation
my son smokes pot ... clintons fault
the weather is 89 today ... its that damn clinton

you guys are a broken record ...
I also love how you convienently skipped GB 1 ... then again there was no one between Reagan and Clinton ... was there?
you are ridiculous ... its not even funny anymore ... its past sad
Reply #28 Top
My ilk doesn't skip Ghwb, thanks. Your ilk is pretty predictable, after blame bush, blame bush, I'm thinking that #28 is projecting your own lunacy on me.

The fact is we've been told over and over that there were no WMDs in Iraq. For 10 years anyone who proposed military efforts to remove Hussein based upon the fact that he wasn't on the level about his WMDs was a warmonger. Clinton was "wise" enough to know that it was all hype.

Well, now we see that while he was sitting there getting a hummer in the mid-90's, there WERE WMDs stored that Hussein was NOT declaring, and the weapons inspectors WEREN'T finding. So, all the weapons inspectors that decided to play politics and declared that Hussein destroyed them all were liars.

Don't try to project your 'blame bush' syndrome on me. Your adolescent, pop politics crap isn't nearly genuine enough to start pretending that. When you get your perspective from something beyond DU propaganda and conspiracy theory sites, we'll talk.
Reply #29 Top
Hussein wasnt removed because he posed a threat ... he was after "our man" when we needed him.
he was removed to further an agenda ... already documented by the Wolfkowitz's of our time the PNAC agenda.

We've had two inspector (Kelly and the other guy whose name escapes me) since the fall of Hussein and they have both
reported the same thing ... what the MILLIONS of people who marched (WORLD WIDE) against this nonsense knew

1. it was not about weapons
2. it was not completely about oil
3. it was not completely about israel
4. it was not completely about the military industrial complex
5. it was for a combination of factors ... which drew in people with a vested stake in furthering hegemony

And furthermore calling me a democrat is as much of an insult as calling me a republican. these two are one and the same
serving the same masters ... and that master is not the American People.
Reply #30 Top
I didn't call you a Dem, I know you are even flakier than they are, no worries. Your rhetoric might as well be cut-and-paste from the DU forums, though, where "PNAC agenda" is about a common as the word "the".
Reply #31 Top
are you DENYING the existence of a Project For the New American Century?

They (signatories) clearly state that a "pearl habor" incident was needed to galvanize the American People into
supporting what has taken place.

Guess what 911 was?

this is not a TINFOIL HAT issue ... its clearly written there and the signatories are either
in the current administration (from VP to Secretaries)
or
in policy making bodies like the American Enterprise Institute or the 1000 pound gorilla ... AIPAC

This is not even a BUSH thing ... it trancends him ... these same individual approached Clinton with this crap ... and
he did what JFK did (with the NorthWoods issue) ... turned it down

Call me any name you want:
tinfoil hat man
crazy fool
ese loco
but I am first and foremost an AMERICAN

The document is right there ... and they clearly admit to it.

Read far enough and you will see statements about
"reshaping the middle east"
and
"a new pearl harbor"

am I making this up? I can run off the list of signatories ... I can pull articles from left/right/middle newsrags (not
internet/blog crap) that have commented on this ...

That this hasnt been a big issue isnt surprising ... after all most of us are only concerned with whos winning on
SURVIVER ...a nation of sheep and idiots
Reply #32 Top
are you DENYING the existence of a Project For the New American Century?


No...I'm denying they have half a brain between them. It hasn't become a big issue, because it's a non-issue. That is unless you are privy to information that the rest of us are not.
Reply #33 Top
>No...I'm denying they have half a brain between them. It hasn't become a big issue, because it's a non-issue.

Its a non-issue ONLY because you choose to make it so.

I believe that it is at the core of this mess. Everything this administration does is in light of 911 ... listen to the
speeches for yourself.

I went to the local library to check out what newspapers were saying pre-sept 10th ... and it was not good ... and I
had forgotten so much of what the mood was. Go to the library and check it out yourself

Then 911
the BEST thing to have happened to this crew.

once the truth behind what happened that fateful day is TRULY uncovered ... I believe it will start to undo this mess.

Something happened that day ... I dont entirely know what it is ... but I do know this
1) it CANNOT be the "official" story (so many holes its like swiss cheese)
2) without it ... nothing done since then (legislation,wars,overreach) would have been possible
3) too many foreign intelligence agencies believe it was cooked inhouse ... but our own guys stick to the "muslim" angle

Reply #34 Top
outside of these two houses (A POX ON DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ALIKE) the media is at the core of the dumbing down of
national conciousness

unfortunately its at the heart of most of our problems and the reasons we cant compete with the world in various endeavors
but i digress ...
Reply #35 Top
I think they need to fire all the current security guards and hire new, better trained ones over at the local looney bin. Rombios escaped again.

What I find interesting about the accusations...if they could mastermind 9/11....then why could we not find the big WMD's in Iraq? They are either brilliant, or dumb as a box of rocks....

Which is it? You and your type want to spit both out of both sides of your mouths. Which is it? Too stupid to walk, or too brilliant for anyone in the world?

Personally, I believe it is just a looney liberal meltdown, when the accusations fly like this. There is no proof as to what they are saying, just that we have got to believe them....yeah, whatever. Maybe you need to take your medication today, Rombios, your insanity is showing again
Reply #36 Top
Re: Rombbios. *cuckoo cuckoo*
Reply #37 Top
the pentagon "finds" all sorts of stuff "written" by Al Qeuda and Zaqawi and you people eat that shit up
the PNAC group puts out a document saying exactly what is needed to kick off this clusterfuck and you dont buy it

WOW
stupidity knows no bounds
Reply #38 Top
Please show the PNAC document that shows the government conspiring to attack it's own country.
Reply #40 Top
Last Saturday, former Bush administration official Morgan Reynolds drew an enthusiastic capacity crowd to the Wisconsin Historical Society auditorium. It is probably the first time in Historical Society history that a political talk has drawn a full house on a Saturday afternoon at the beginning of final exams.

Reynolds, the former director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis, and the ex-top economist for George W. Bush's Labor Department, charged the Bush administration with gross malfeasance, and proposed the prosecution of top administration officials.

Normally, if a prestigious UW alumnus and ex-Bush administration official were to come to the Wisconsin Historical Society to spill the beans about a Bush administration scandal, it would make the news. The local TV stations would cover it, and it would merit front page headlines in The Capital Times and Wisconsin State Journal.

Reynolds' indictment of the administration he worked for was a stunning, life-changing event for many of those who witnessed it. As the event's organizer, I have received dozens of e-mails about it from people who were deeply affected.

Despite the prestigious speaker and venue, and the gravity of the charges aired, for most Americans indeed most Madisonians the event never happened. Why? Because it was censored, subjected to a total media blackout. Not a word in the State Journal. Not a word in The Capital Times. Not a word on the local TV news. Not a word on local radio news. And, of course, not a word in the national media.

Why the blackout? Because Reynolds violated the ultimate U.S. media taboo. He charges the Bush administration with orchestrating the 9/11 attacks as a pretext for launching a preplanned "long war" in the Middle East, rolling back our civil liberties, and massively increasing military spending.

When a former Bush administration insider makes such charges, how can the media ignore them? Is Reynolds a lone crank? Hardly. A long list of prominent Americans have spoken out for 9/11 truth: Rev. William Sloane Coffin, Sen. Barbara Boxer, former head of the Star Wars program Col. Robert Bowman, ex-Reagan administration economics guru Paul Craig Roberts, progressive Jewish author-activist Rabbi Michael Lerner, former CIA official Ray McGovern, author-essayist Gore Vidal, and many other respected names from across the political spectrum have gone on the record for 9/11 truth.

Are the media ignoring all these people, and dozens more like them, because there is no evidence to support their charges? Hardly. Overwhelming evidence, from the obvious air defense stand-down, to the nonprotection of the president in Florida, to the blatant controlled demolition of World Trade Center building 7, proves that 9/11 was an inside job. As noted philosopher-theologian and 9/11 revisionist historian David Griffin writes: "It is already possible to know, beyond a reasonable doubt, one very important thing: the destruction of the World Trade Center was an inside job, orchestrated by terrorists within our own government."

A growing list of scientists has lined up behind BYU physicist Steven Jones and MIT engineer Jeff King in support of Griffin's position, as evidenced by the growth of Scholars for 9/11 Truth (st911.org) and Scientific Professionals Investigating 9/11 (physics911.net).

As a Watergate-era graduate of the University of Wisconsin School of Journalism, I was taught that exposing government lies and corruption is the supreme duty of the Fourth Estate. I simply cannot fathom the current situation. I do not understand the 9/11 truth blackout. I wish someone would explain it to me.

It is time to break the 9/11 truth blackout. Please put pressure on your local media through letters to the editor, call-ins to talk radio, and phone calls to local and national journalists.

And come see Peter Phillips, director of the media watchdog group Project Censored, who will lead a strategy session on breaking the blackout at the upcoming international 9/11 truth conference in Chicago: 9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future, to be held June 2-4 at the Embassy Suites Hotel, Chicago-O'Hare Rosemont.

The event will feature presentations from dozens of 9/11 truth luminaries, from scientists like Steven Jones to intelligence agency whistle-blowers like David Shayler, and promises to be a historic, watershed event. Be there, or resign yourself to a future of endless war, lost liberty, and a craven media that cannot bring itself to breathe a single word of truth.

Published: May 12, 2006
Reply #41 Top
Gah, aren't people embarassed admitting they believe these kooks? I've read about everything these Alex Jones drones have to say, and it is all a bunch of paranoia. Anyone that thinks Bush's proof of Hussein having WMDs was thin can't possibly look at what these people have and think it amounts to anything.
Reply #42 Top
Watergate-era, fourth estate, Journalism - la-de-da.
Where are the checks and balances - there aren't any - no one elects the press.
Journalism is about accurately reporting facts.
If you're a crusader - join a cult.
If you're a journalist - get the facts
Then get confirmation and verification of those facts.

Reply #43 Top
Bakerstreet ... trust me when I tell you this:
MOST people I know DO NOT ... I repeat DO NOT buy the official story.

Not all believe the way I do that this administration' cronies were behind it
Some believe that they knew and LET it happen ...

One tie binds us:
the belief that what happened that fateful day is not what the media is telling us

Some of these people are TRUE conservatives
(and support republicans because of a desire for a smaller government and all around tax cuts)

ONE DAY the truth will come out ... youll see.
ONE DAY !!!

Soon enough the words PNAC and the contents of that document will be recited in every class in this country

Thats why I blame the media ... so many people have lost their jobs, been reassigned, punished for questioning various
aspects of the official story but you wont hear about that on t.v

Which makes me believe THEY ARE ALL in on it
Reply #44 Top
conservatism doesn't have anything to do with it. There are militias stuffed with "conservative" gun-toting, republican voting people who think black UN helicopters are doing secret maneuvers at night near their homes.

You probably don't buy Oklahoma city, either? Look at the last sentence of your post. Does that not look like a cry for help to you? Eventually, when no one else in the world agrees with you, then everyone except you will be in on it.

Again, Bush can't find anything scary in Iraq when he invades, but he and his global conspiracy cohorts can somehow engineer a plot requiring untold numbers of accomplices. In an administration that can't even fart without the CIA running to the press about it.

You don't think, since Bush obviously wanted to invade Iraq before 9/11, that he woulndn't have picked Iraqis to fly the planes? Why choose Saudis, making his friendship with them a problem? Why bother with Afghanistan at all?

There are far more holes in 9/11 theories than there are facts.
Reply #45 Top
Bakerstreet

I believe you are correct about there being holes in the 9/11 story. However I do not believe Saddam was any real part of that plan and our attacking him has consumed our resources in a way that has NOT enhanced our long term security!!!
Reply #46 Top
The real cost of this war will take some time to calculate. The Iraq war has consumed the vast majority of our land forces and has caused serious damage to almost ALL the equipment of the Army, Marines, National Guard and Army Reserve. Not only will all that equipment need to be either rebuilt or replaced, but if another military action develops BEFORE we can repair or replace our military equipment, we could have a very serious problem.

On so many dimensions the Iraq War was a mistake that will linger for a long time!
Reply #47 Top
On so many dimensions the Iraq War was a mistake that will linger for a long time!


Only in your mind.
Reply #48 Top
IslandDog

No in the mind of the MAJORITY of Americans. WE have the deaths, injuries, impact on the National Guard and Army Reserve, destruction of our military equipment, added terrorists that have been recruited due to our invasion of a Moslem country, the cost of the war and the fact Bush put the cost on the tab so we can pay interest on that added debt until, if ever, we repay the debt created by this elective war!

There are ALL facts that people like you want to ignore. Your stupidity will not alter these consequences nor make then go away. This is just one of the messes Bush has created that the next President will be forced to deal with when Crawford, Texas has gotten back its idiot!
Reply #49 Top
No in the mind of the MAJORITY of Americans.


How do you know? Oh let me guess, a biased media poll of 1000 Americans that oversample democrats right?


You stupidity will not alter there consequences nor make then go away.


You might want to check that grammar in that sentence before calling someone stupid.
Reply #50 Top
Your Blogs very often contain multiple errors!