Anathema to Liberals: Free Men

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/6/19/102912.shtml?s=et
from JoeUser Forums

Back in the days before the Civil war, there was generally considered to be 2 kinds of blacks.  Free Men and slaves.  Free Men, through work or a twinge of conscious of their former masters, were just that.  Free people.  And as such, they enjoyed all the rights granted to other citizens of the US.  They could vote, they could own property, they could marry and raise a family.  They were citizens.

After the war, all the blacks were Free Men (Men used in this sense of Homosapiens, not the masculine gender - although women still could not vote in those days).  Jump to the present.

It seems that these Free Men are now defined in another way.  They think for themselves.  And as such, they do not always parrot a party line.  Sometimes they are liberal (Barak Obama comes to mind as a free thinker of that persuasion) or a conservative.  But woe be to the Free Man that has left the liberal plantation and become a conservative!  For then they are treated like the worst slaves of the Ante Bellum South.  One needs look no further than the supposed PC slurs leveled against Michael Steele this year, and now the smear that Robert Kennedy Jr. is trying to paint Ken Blackwell with.

Long after the election of 04 was decided, long after the allegations of fraud and disenfranchisement were put to rest, long after Kerry decided he Supported the war before he was against it, Robert Kennedy Jr. took a page from Dan Rather and in a hatchet job, attempted to smear the former Secretary of State of Ohio - Ken Blackwell.

His hatchet job was not an honest mistake, or even poor journalist investigation.  It is plain and simple, a smear job.  Refuted not by some right wing publication, but by several of the admittedly liberal media outlets that are at the center of the controversy.  Pointing out the glaring lies, and omissions of a smear job against a politician whose 2 crimes are being black and being conservative.

For that is indeed the anathema of liberals.  If Blacks ever realize they are free men, and can vote any way they want, the democrats are doomed to long period of being a permanent minority party.  Oh, they welcome the votes of blacks, and feed them scraps from the table of power.  But no blacks have any real power in the DNC.  Just look at what they did to Maynard Jackson and McCall.

And in their fear of losing power, and seeing it slip away, all bets are off, all civility is thrown to the wind, and the democrats of today look a lot like the Democrats of 1870, and for that matter 1964.  They use the race card against republicans at every turn, yet that obviously does not work when the republican is black, so they resort to racism themselves.

And the Kennedys are no different.  Instead of bringing America to a higher standard, they perpetuate racism so that they can then turn and warn blacks "See!  You are still victims".  What they do not tell blacks is, yes they are victims.  But not of society or conservatives.  They are victims of liberal racism.

This year, there are 3 blacks that are running for a major office, 2 governorships and a senate seat.  And all have a shot of winning.  And all have been subjected to some of the worst forms of racism since the Ante Bellum south.  But this racism is not coming from the Aryan Nation, or the Klu Klux Klan.  It is coming from the DNC and its leadership. 

Slave holders hated Free Men.  So do Liberals.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
I find it amazing that George Bush has done by far, more to elevate blacks to positions of power, and are out there for the world to see, yet, the blacks scream in tune with the liberal agenda about what a racist President Bush is.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

yet, the blacks scream in tune with the liberal agenda about what a racist President Bush is.

Slaves do what their masters demand of them.

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm certain that black americans sleep easier knowing there are people like you two out here concerned about their "freedom".

Michael Steele is concerned with their freedom too, that's probably why he has fundraisers at white only country clubs.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top

I'm certain that black americans sleep easier knowing there are people like you two out here concerned about their "freedom".

Michael Steele is concerned with their freedom too, that's probably why he has fundraisers at white only country clubs.

Welll, Hello Davad!  Nice to see you back.  I do so enjoy when the massas decide to grace us darkies with their brilliance!  Thank you very much for wasting electrons and not commenting on the article at all.  But then given the nature of the facts, I doubt you could contribute anything constructive.

Oh, and please go help your boy down in Alabama.  The one running for DA.  WHo at least is an honest liberal.

Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
3 by davad70
Thu, June 22, 2006 4:49 PM


I'm certain that black Americans sleep easier knowing there are people like you two out here concerned about their "freedom".


This is what I have to expect from LIBERALS, disparaging remarks, Why is it a simple fact sends you running and screaming into the night? I think maybe you are a closet RACIST, since you are so quick to point that finger at others, It has been my experience that what annoys us most is what we See in ourselves.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

It has been my experience that what annoys us most is what we See in ourselves.

methinks Davad is young, and does not have the wisdom of age.  At least he has not demonstrated any here.

And I think you are correct.  Note how fast to tar and feather, and ignore the beam in his eye.

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
The last thing the Democrats/Liberals need is for blacks to stop thinking like victims or to even begin to think of themselves simply as Americans instead of setting themselves apart as "black Americans" or "Afro-Americans". As long as they can continue to make them think of themselves in divisive terms, they can pretend to pander to their "oppression" and continue to hold them down for the sake of votes.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
This is what I have to expect from LIBERALS, disparaging remarks, Why is it a simple fact sends you running and screaming into the night? I think maybe you are a closet RACIST, since you are so quick to point that finger at others, It has been my experience that what annoys us most is what we See in ourselves.


Disparaging remarks? The fact that Michael Steele held a fundraiser at an all white country club? I can't help if you take that fact that way.

Who am I pointing the finger at, other than Steele? I don't think he's a racist, just greedy and that campaign money is more important to him than any ideals realted to freedom or equality.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
And all have been subjected to some of the worst forms of racism since the Ante Bellum south.


Yeah, someone allegedly rolled an oreo cookie on stage during a debate. Getting dragged to death tied to the bumper of a truck or getting lynched pales in comparison to what these three guys have been through.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
#9 by davad70
Thu, June 22, 2006 11:35 PM



[davad70]
And all have been subjected to some of the worst forms of racism since the Ante Bellum south.


Yeah, someone allegedly rolled an oreo cookie on stage during a debate. Getting dragged to death tied to the bumper of a truck or getting lynched pales in comparison to what these three guys have been through.


Ah, so racism is ok as long as it isn't violent? It's the degree of racist abuse that matters then is it?
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ah, so racism is ok as long as it isn't violent? It's the degree of racist abuse that matters then is it?


Obviously I've never said that racism is ok if it isn't violent. However, only a fool would believe that having a cookie rolled in your general direction and being dragged from a truck are equal. I wasn't the one who said "the worst forms of racism since the Ante Bellum south." I was merely pointing out that there are worse forms of abuse that have happened than what these guys have went through.

Obviously I don't know for sure, but I'd bet that close to 100% of people would choose to have a cookie rolled at them because of their race, rather than die because of their race.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
And I'm sure 100% of them would choose to not be subjected to racist abuse of any kind.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top

As long as they can continue to make them think of themselves in divisive terms, they can pretend to pander to their "oppression" and continue to hold them down for the sake of votes.

Exactly.  They have an enslaved constiuency, and liberals are not about to kill that golden goose.

Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

Disparaging remarks? The fact that Michael Steele held a fundraiser at an all white country club? I can't help if you take that fact that way.

Who am I pointing the finger at, other than Steele? I don't think he's a racist, just greedy and that campaign money is more important to him than any ideals realted to freedom or equality.

Excuse me, The Governor had the fund raiser, Steele attended.  But only you would bring up the black man's attendance.  MM is right.  Your racism is showing through in your selective condemnation.

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top

Yeah, someone allegedly rolled an oreo cookie on stage during a debate. Getting dragged to death tied to the bumper of a truck or getting lynched pales in comparison to what these three guys have been through.

See?  You love not commenting on point, but again spewing irrelevant vitriol about something you apparently no nothing about (since Steele was never dragged nor did he drag anyone).  Hey Clueless.  The idiots got the death penalty.  You want to pull the trigger on them yourself?  Why?  They are just your compadres.

Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

Ah, so racism is ok as long as it isn't violent? It's the degree of racist abuse that matters then is it?

Actually, that is the mildest form of racism Steele has seen.  It really is a lot nastier, but dont expect racists to bring it up.

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top

Obviously I've never said that racism is ok if it isn't violent. However, only a fool would believe that having a cookie rolled in your general direction and being dragged from a truck are equal. I wasn't the one who said "the worst forms of racism since the Ante Bellum south." I was merely pointing out that there are worse forms of abuse that have happened than what these guys have went through.

I see you can read!  Actually quoting from the article.  But apparently not understanding a single word.  Now, for the record, since you have made the accusation twice now, back it up.  When did Steele drag anyone behind a truck?

You really are sad.  You cannot discuss any issue without bringing in irrelevant issues.  If you cannot understand this article, maybe a translation to baby talk can be arranged.

Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top

And I'm sure 100% of them would choose to not be subjected to racist abuse of any kind.

Dont tell the liberals that.  The only bad racism is the racism they do not practice.

Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Now, for the record, since you have made the accusation twice now, back it up. When did Steele drag anyone behind a truck?


I never said anything about Steele dragging anyone from a truck. I was merely pointing out that many men have gone through worse racist abuse "since the Ante Bellum south" than these guys have.

6 replies in a row? I see you're still the king of all point whores. Some things never change around here.

Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Nothing excuses racist violence, but the stereotypes that many racists rely upon to make their points are perpetuated by faux-Liberal "keep them as pets" opportunists. The last thing the Democratic party would want is their big claim to fame, the "downtrodden ghetto poor" to ever scrape their way out and negate the purpose of their corrupt charity.

It isn't just black people. They are out there in the sticks telling rural people the same thing; that without them they'd starve and all those rich republicans would take their land and burn their wigwams. The fact is, many rural areas are painfully poor because of local governments that became entrenched after the depression and who still to this day punitively raid businesses in their areas for the "poor", keeping all opportunity at bay.

So long as anyone that differs with them is an "uncle tom" they'll never convince me that they really care for black americans. More likely they like to keep a large percentage of them reliant on government services and willing to vote to protect it. With the help of punitive taxation and idiotic trade unions, they keep a good portion of the nation ripe for the picking.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top

never said anything about Steele dragging anyone from a truck. I was merely pointing out that many men have gone through worse racist abuse "since the Ante Bellum south" than these guys have.

6 replies in a row? I see you're still the king of all point whores. Some things never change around here.

First off Davad, I was answering each comment in turn, as I happened to get some sleep last night.  Sorry I was not whoring around JU waiting for your irrelevancies.

Second off, That was Murder.  Plain and simple. Or is it only murder if the same race is both victim and perp?  You have a strange sense of justice and a complete lack of reading comprehension.  But I will try to break it down into smaller syllables.

So according to you, racism is fine as long as you dont kill anyone?  Where did you learn that?  J William Fulbright? Or maybe Robert Sheets Byrd?

Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top

So long as anyone that differs with them is an "uncle tom" they'll never convince me that they really care for black americans. More likely they like to keep a large percentage of them reliant on government services and willing to vote to protect it.

Exactly!  You said it so well.  Perhaps Davad can read yours and then gain an understanding, but since he is only concerned about same race crime and point whores, I doubt he has the mental capacity to read your response and understand it.

Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
So according to you, racism is fine as long as you dont kill anyone? Where did you learn that? J William Fulbright? Or maybe Robert Sheets Byrd?


According to me? Where did I say that?

Again, you are the one that said that these men suffered "the worst forms of racism since the Ante Bellum south." It would appear from that statement that you are the one that thinks that some forms are worse than others. Why else would you use the word "worst", if you truly believe that all racism is equal?
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
to smear the former Secretary of State of Ohio - Ken Blackwell


you got this part wrong btw. blackwell is the current secretary of state. his performance there seems to me more than enuff reason to vote against him.

as secretary of state, he will be overseeing the election in which he's running. even if he had no history of using his authority as a weapon to to defend his own party and batter the opposition or he hadn't demonstrated his shabby ethics, no candidate should be permitted to monitor his own campaign.

so far this year alone blackwell has:

a. published social security numbers 1.2 million ohio citizens on his official website. he then promised to be much more careful. this happened in march, 2006.

b. ooops he did it again at the end of april. he may have been more careful tho. this time he only mailed out disks with the names and full ss numbers belonging to 7.7 million.

c. remember blackwell's refusal to prohibit diebold (maker of electronic voting machines) from competing for the 2004 contract to provide ohio with such machines because dielbold's product did not meet standards? in april it was discovered blackwell owned diebold stock then and now.

d. blackwell has managed to prevent the green party candidate for governor (the same seat blackwell hopes to win) from qualifying for the upcoming election even tho the greens have produced twice the number of qualifying signatures required by law.

so i guess what you're saying drguy is you'll support a snake no matter what color it might be as long as it belongs to your favored party.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
#23 by davad70
Fri, June 23, 2006 10:37 PM



[davad70]
So according to you, racism is fine as long as you dont kill anyone? Where did you learn that? J William Fulbright? Or maybe Robert Sheets Byrd?


According to me? Where did I say that?

Again, you are the one that said that these men suffered "the worst forms of racism since the Ante Bellum south." It would appear from that statement that you are the one that thinks that some forms are worse than others. Why else would you use the word "worst", if you truly believe that all racism is equal?


Why don't you try to address the main point of the article instead of a single sentence? Is it because you can't or you're ashamed?